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- April 10, 2008 at 9:19 am#86641StuParticipant
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2008,21:18) Quote (Stu @ April 10 2008,20:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2008,20:45) Hi Stu,
Oh you mean from a sociological point of view?
Sure. Or ethical or medical or biological or psychological. What is actually wrong with someone being gay?Stuart
Hey Stu,
It's a free world. To each their own.
So long as it is not made compulsory.
Wow. Now Leviticus is optional.Stuart
April 10, 2008 at 9:20 am#86643NickHassanParticipantHi Stu,
As far back as the garden?
The serpent was about then.April 10, 2008 at 9:25 am#86646charityParticipantQuote (Stu @ April 10 2008,21:18) Quote (charity @ April 10 2008,21:07) Quote (Stu @ April 10 2008,20:39) So what is actually wrong with homosexuality? Stuart
UMMM, excuse this expression, just a minor thing, One bird on the arch?and
Dante females are left UN serviced!
History records homosexuality as far back as it goes. Yet here we are, thriving as a species.Those females could have other females!
Stuart
Its just not an option for me!
yet I dont look down on anyone that has gone there, just dont share their desires and emotionsApril 10, 2008 at 9:25 am#86647StuParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2008,21:20) Hi Stu,
As far back as the garden?
The serpent was about then.
Go back to the human cultures that existed before the garden of Eden. You will find homosexuality there too.Stuart
April 10, 2008 at 9:26 am#86648StuParticipantQuote (charity @ April 10 2008,21:25) Quote (Stu @ April 10 2008,21:18) Quote (charity @ April 10 2008,21:07) Quote (Stu @ April 10 2008,20:39) So what is actually wrong with homosexuality? Stuart
UMMM, excuse this expression, just a minor thing, One bird on the arch?and
Dante females are left UN serviced!
History records homosexuality as far back as it goes. Yet here we are, thriving as a species.Those females could have other females!
Stuart
Its just not an option for me!
yet I dont look down on anyone that has gone there, just dont share their desires and emotions
Same here!Stuart
April 10, 2008 at 9:28 am#86650charityParticipantQuote (Stu @ April 10 2008,21:26) Quote (charity @ April 10 2008,21:25) Quote (Stu @ April 10 2008,21:18) Quote (charity @ April 10 2008,21:07) Quote (Stu @ April 10 2008,20:39) So what is actually wrong with homosexuality? Stuart
UMMM, excuse this expression, just a minor thing, One bird on the arch?and
Dante females are left UN serviced!
History records homosexuality as far back as it goes. Yet here we are, thriving as a species.Those females could have other females!
Stuart
Its just not an option for me!
yet I dont look down on anyone that has gone there, just dont share their desires and emotions
Same here!Stuart
Good Night stuartApril 10, 2008 at 9:31 am#86651NickHassanParticipantQuote (Stu @ April 10 2008,21:19) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2008,21:18) Quote (Stu @ April 10 2008,20:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2008,20:45) Hi Stu,
Oh you mean from a sociological point of view?
Sure. Or ethical or medical or biological or psychological. What is actually wrong with someone being gay?Stuart
Hey Stu,
It's a free world. To each their own.
So long as it is not made compulsory.
Wow. Now Leviticus is optional.Stuart
Hi Stu,
Did you think the Jewish law applied to the lost world?April 10, 2008 at 9:32 am#86652NickHassanParticipantQuote (Stu @ April 10 2008,21:25) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2008,21:20) Hi Stu,
As far back as the garden?
The serpent was about then.
Go back to the human cultures that existed before the garden of Eden. You will find homosexuality there too.Stuart
Hi Stu,
Darkness was over the face of the earth?April 10, 2008 at 9:35 am#86654StuParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2008,21:31) Quote (Stu @ April 10 2008,21:19) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2008,21:18) Quote (Stu @ April 10 2008,20:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2008,20:45) Hi Stu,
Oh you mean from a sociological point of view?
Sure. Or ethical or medical or biological or psychological. What is actually wrong with someone being gay?Stuart
Hey Stu,
It's a free world. To each their own.
So long as it is not made compulsory.
Wow. Now Leviticus is optional.Stuart
Hi Stu,
Did you think the Jewish law applied to the lost world?
If you could define 'the lost world' for me that would be helpful.Stuart
April 10, 2008 at 9:37 am#86655StuParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2008,21:32) Quote (Stu @ April 10 2008,21:25) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2008,21:20) Hi Stu,
As far back as the garden?
The serpent was about then.
Go back to the human cultures that existed before the garden of Eden. You will find homosexuality there too.Stuart
Hi Stu,
Darkness was over the face of the earth?
Earth would not exist without the sun. The allegory seems to be cracking up…Stuart
April 10, 2008 at 9:40 am#86656NickHassanParticipantQuote (Stu @ April 10 2008,21:25) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2008,21:20) Hi Stu,
As far back as the garden?
The serpent was about then.
Go back to the human cultures that existed before the garden of Eden. You will find homosexuality there too.Stuart
Hi Stu,
Do tell us of this time?April 10, 2008 at 9:41 am#86657NickHassanParticipantHi Stu,
You said in another thread
“In a very real sense my parents gave me life but they do not have the right to kill me.”
So your ethics do not accept murder.
that all?April 10, 2008 at 11:48 am#86664kejonnParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2008,04:31) Did you think the Jewish law applied to the lost world?
According to Christianity, all people were lost because of A&E, so Jews were lost too.April 10, 2008 at 4:36 pm#86683Not3in1ParticipantQuote (Samuel @ April 10 2008,19:26) I don't know if you can go to heaven and own a T.V.
Oh, my goodness!Sam, if I were you, I'd stay home from church on Sundays and read my bible.
April 10, 2008 at 4:38 pm#86684Not3in1ParticipantQuote (Samuel @ April 10 2008,19:26) Enough Said. GODBLESS YOU ALL …Please forgive me if I've Offended anyone. I'm sorry in advance…but sometimes I feel that I have to just tell it like it is. And sometimes that upsets people.
Thank you.And yes, you are forgiven, thanks for asking!
MandyApril 10, 2008 at 4:40 pm#86685Not3in1ParticipantQuote (charity @ April 10 2008,21:07) Quote (Stu @ April 10 2008,20:39) So what is actually wrong with homosexuality? Stuart
UMMM, excuse this expression, just a minor thing, One bird on the arch?and
Dante females are left UN serviced!
Good stuff, sister!
April 10, 2008 at 6:29 pm#86695seek and you will findParticipantQuote (Samuel @ April 10 2008,19:26) Its flat out WRONG! Its WRONG in the Bible.
Its WRONG in the world…with just plain old morals.
Its WRONG!Two Males can not make another Male or Female. Two WRONGS don't make a RIGHT! My daddy always told me.
TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT!
People say…”Well he was born gay”
Thats a LIE right out of the pits of hell …straight from SATAN! You've been deceived by SATAN if you believe that hog wash!I suppose that I could tell you there are GAY Dogs too? …Yeah right…give me a break!
What part of WRONG don't you understand?
The W?
The R?
The O?
The N?
The G?I'm tired of people trying to BLAME GOD for the fact that they let SATAN deceive them.
GOD does not Deceive people.
GOD does not Confuse people.
GOD does not make GAYS.IT JUST DOES NOT HAPPEN!
SATAN makes GAYS!
As far as the Old Testament applying to someone…YES! Every bit of the Bible applies to Everyone!
Some of the “Covenants” were done away with. Because they were “Full-filled” and “Paid In-Full” By the blood of Jesus Christ.Now some people say “Well the Ten Commandments we don't have to follow anymore” …OH YES YOU DO!
Jesus just basically took those and reinforced them…Example:
Quote Matthew 5:28
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.Exodus 20:14
4 Thou shalt not commit adultery.So…
We see here that it went from “DON'T DO IT” to “DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT DOING IT!”And, if you want to take time to argue why you think this is wrong you need to REPENT! Because you are spending way too much time trying to FIGHT GODS word.
You can not FIGHT GOD and WIN.
Now…there may be certain things in modern day time that might or might not apply to certain people.
Like in the type of church I go to they think you should not have a T.V.
Which…if thats all your family does is sit and watch T.V. then yeah…you really probably don't need one. ITS A WASTE OF YOUR TIME! Anything you are giving more time to then you give to GOD…is what you are worshiping…Basically.
Some people like myself and others that are probably on this forum board that will probably read this…have T.V.'s in their home…and they hardly ever turn them on…Except to maybe watch a movie with the Family or something.…I don't know…really about T.V.'s I just got on them for some reason.
I don't know if you can go to heaven and own a T.V.
…But…
I'm 100% sure that you can NOT own one and go to Heaven.
I suppose the same thing could be said about the Internet, or the Newspaper, or the Mall, or Real Life…or whatever.
My personal belief is if you have even the slightest remote half-way feeling inside you that you probably should not do it about anything…thats most likely the Holy Spirit telling you to not do it.
Lets take Smoking Stealing for Example:
You know if your an Honest GOD loving person…and you go and steal something…or lie to someone …your going to feel bad way down inside about it.…Well the same thing is most likely going to happen if your watching “Bay Watch” and some chick walks out in a string Bikini. Your most likely NOT going to want to see it …cause your going to FEEL like its the same thing as looking at PORN…Which you know is BAD.
Would the Devil tell you NOT to do something he knows is going to send you straight to HELL!NO!
But the Holy Spirit will.
Enough Said.
GODBLESS YOU ALL …Please forgive me if I've Offended anyone. I'm sorry in advance…but sometimes I feel that I have to just tell it like it is. And sometimes that upsets people.
Samuel I agree with you when it comes to Homosexuality, in my eyes it is wrong too. That is what the word of God has said. So I am not sorry for what I read in the Bible.
I love all of the people on here, but sometimes I do not agree with something they do, and that is the way I see it. And we should all respect each others understanding. God knows and that is good enough for me and should be for all of us. For those that practice these things, they have to stand in front of God, not I. It is when they impose their believes on us, is when I get angry. I do not want it to be taught in School to our Grandchildren and I should have that right not to. This Country was built on the believe in God. In God do we trust, but have we lately. It is getting really bad, every thing goes. All the dirt that our Grandchildren are exposed to are very disgusting to me. You can't turn on the T.V. without having half naked girls dancing all over the place. Even Ballroom dancing, which I in general like, but the outfits that they wear. In my youth we would have called them sluts. Morality has gone out of the window. Just like it was in Sodom and Gomorrah it will be in the end times, and I guess I should not be surprised, I believe it is right around the corner. If not here already.
Blessings and Peace and Love to all Mrs.April 10, 2008 at 6:47 pm#86698NickHassanParticipantHi,
Sin is natural to men.
It is the fruit of their flesh.Gal5
19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,20Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Following the flesh in any way does not lead to the kingdom of God and this sin is just another manifestation of the hopelessly lost state of mankind. Thornbushes cannot produce figs.
Jesus came to save all sinners and to empower them with the Spirit to produce useful fruit.
April 10, 2008 at 7:44 pm#86708SamuelParticipantIts WRONG!
Just like stealing is WRONG!
Just like killing is WRONG!
All Religion aside…ITS STILL WRONG!
ITS NOT RIGHT!
And you are never going to justisfy it to me.
April 10, 2008 at 7:50 pm#86709NickHassanParticipantHi Sam,
We know that but for those destined to be lost whichever sin they are entrapped in matters little.
It is not for us to just encourage men to stop sinning as that does not save them.
Jesus came to free them and wash their consciences and bless them.
Unbelief is a far bigger problem than other matters.We should listen to Jesus in Jn16
8And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:9Of sin, because they believe not on me;
10Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
11Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
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