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Rev 21:16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth, and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The breadth and height of it are equal.
12,000 furlongs = 1500 miles
1500 miles = 2414 klm.The city is square, and is high as it is wide and long.
Why the need for this city to have boundaries?
Did God give us this information for fun? or is he showing us something?Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 16 2013,10:38) Rev 21:16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth, and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The breadth and height of it are equal. 12,000 furlongs = 1500 miles
1500 miles = 2414 klm.The city is square, and is high as it is wide and long.
Why the need for this city to have boundaries?
Did God give us this information for fun? or is he showing us something?
Rev 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honor into it.Rev 21:26 And they shall bring the glory and honor of the nations into it.
Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it anything that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie, but they which are written in the Lambs book of life.
j42
Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it anything that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie, but they which are written in the Lambs book of life.
what do you understand from this scripture
Rev 22:1 And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.Rev 22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
Rev 22:4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.Rev 22:6 And he said unto me, these sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to show unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.
Rev 22:7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,10:45) j42 Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it anything that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie, but they which are written in the Lambs book of life.
what do you understand from this scripture
Hi Pierre,I understand it exactly as it says.
Nothing defiled or any one that lies, or works abomination can enter. They cannot go into into this holy city, so they must still be existing, or else why would he mention them, if they are all destroyed already.Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 16 2013,06:01) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,10:45) j42 Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it anything that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie, but they which are written in the Lambs book of life.
what do you understand from this scripture
Hi Pierre,I understand it exactly as it says.
Nothing defiled or any one that lies, or works abomination can enter. They cannot go into into this holy city, so they must still be existing, or else why would he mention them, if they are all destroyed already.
j42so is that city on earth
is this city alone on earth are the righteous the only people outside of the city ,???
Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 16 2013,11:01) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,10:45) j42 Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it anything that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie, but they which are written in the Lambs book of life.
what do you understand from this scripture
Hi Pierre,I understand it exactly as it says.
Nothing defiled or any one that lies, or works abomination can enter. They cannot go into into this holy city, so they must still be existing, or else why would he mention them, if they are all destroyed already.
Good one J42.If at the coming, the whole earth will belong to Christ,and all the wicked destroyed.
1.Why would there be boundaries?
2. Why are there still nations?
You will not get any respond on this one.
The silence will be deafening.wakeup.
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,11:37) Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 16 2013,06:01) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,10:45) j42 Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it anything that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie, but they which are written in the Lambs book of life.
what do you understand from this scripture
Hi Pierre,I understand it exactly as it says.
Nothing defiled or any one that lies, or works abomination can enter. They cannot go into into this holy city, so they must still be existing, or else why would he mention them, if they are all destroyed already.
j42so is that city on earth
is this city alone on earth are the righteous the only people outside of the city ,???
Terra.Answer a question with a question.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2013,11:16) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,11:37) Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 16 2013,06:01) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,10:45) j42 Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it anything that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie, but they which are written in the Lambs book of life.
what do you understand from this scripture
Hi Pierre,I understand it exactly as it says.
Nothing defiled or any one that lies, or works abomination can enter. They cannot go into into this holy city, so they must still be existing, or else why would he mention them, if they are all destroyed already.
j42so is that city on earth
is this city alone on earth are the righteous the only people outside of the city ,???
Terra.Answer a question with a question.
wakeup.
WUPwen you ask a question is it because you do not know
or you are curios if the others would know about it
or you just ask in regard of ……..
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,16:29) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2013,11:16) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,11:37) Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 16 2013,06:01) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,10:45) j42 Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it anything that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie, but they which are written in the Lambs book of life.
what do you understand from this scripture
Hi Pierre,I understand it exactly as it says.
Nothing defiled or any one that lies, or works abomination can enter. They cannot go into into this holy city, so they must still be existing, or else why would he mention them, if they are all destroyed already.
j42so is that city on earth
is this city alone on earth are the righteous the only people outside of the city ,???
Terra.Answer a question with a question.
wakeup.
WUPwen you ask a question is it because you do not know
or you are curios if the others would know about it
or you just ask in regard of ……..
Terra.
We are waisting our time with this,,lets just respond to J42's scriptures.Lets try to answer all the why's.??
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2013,11:44) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,16:29) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2013,11:16) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,11:37) Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 16 2013,06:01) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,10:45) j42 Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it anything that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie, but they which are written in the Lambs book of life.
what do you understand from this scripture
Hi Pierre,I understand it exactly as it says.
Nothing defiled or any one that lies, or works abomination can enter. They cannot go into into this holy city, so they must still be existing, or else why would he mention them, if they are all destroyed already.
j42so is that city on earth
is this city alone on earth are the righteous the only people outside of the city ,???
Terra.Answer a question with a question.
wakeup.
WUPwen you ask a question is it because you do not know
or you are curios if the others would know about it
or you just ask in regard of ……..
Terra.
We are waisting our time with this,,lets just respond to J42's scriptures.Lets try to answer all the why's.??
wakeup.
WupJ42 ,does not ask questions ,I am the one that ask questions but like always you can not answer them as well ,
So I will leave it alone bye
Good point J…
Boundaries are a CLAIM against OTHERS living OUTSIDE of those boundaries…OTHERS within their OWN boundaries!!
Aka: OUTSIDERS!!Good post.
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,17:49) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2013,11:44) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,16:29) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2013,11:16) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,11:37) Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 16 2013,06:01) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,10:45) j42 Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it anything that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie, but they which are written in the Lambs book of life.
what do you understand from this scripture
Hi Pierre,I understand it exactly as it says.
Nothing defiled or any one that lies, or works abomination can enter. They cannot go into into this holy city, so they must still be existing, or else why would he mention them, if they are all destroyed already.
j42so is that city on earth
is this city alone on earth are the righteous the only people outside of the city ,???
Terra.Answer a question with a question.
wakeup.
WUPwen you ask a question is it because you do not know
or you are curios if the others would know about it
or you just ask in regard of ……..
Terra.
We are waisting our time with this,,lets just respond to J42's scriptures.Lets try to answer all the why's.??
wakeup.
WupJ42 ,does not ask questions ,I am the one that ask questions but like always you can not answer them as well ,
So I will leave it alone bye
O' Terra,I can see that you are not hungry for the truth.
You just let it pass as if it is not important for you to know. You are feeling rich in knowledge.You are settled with the wine that has made you drunken. You are so comfortable in your nest with no eggs. Dont you worry that your eggs has been taken from you? Your nakedness will show at the coming.
Revelation 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be CLOTHED, and that the SHAME of thy NAKEDNESS do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with EYESALVE, that thou mayest SEE.
wakeup.
terraricca,Jan. wrote:[/quote]
Quote J42 ,does not ask questions ,I am the one that ask questions but like always you can not answer them as well , Hi Pierre,
This is the question I asked on the first post.
Quote The city is square, and is high as it is wide and long.
Why the need for this city to have boundaries?Quote So I will leave it alone bye
No need to leave it alone Pierre, this is a good discussion.Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,11:37) Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 16 2013,06:01) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,10:45) j42 Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it anything that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie, but they which are written in the Lambs book of life.
what do you understand from this scripture
Hi Pierre,I understand it exactly as it says.
Nothing defiled or any one that lies, or works abomination can enter. They cannot go into into this holy city, so they must still be existing, or else why would he mention them, if they are all destroyed already.
j42so is that city on earth
is this city alone on earth are the righteous the only people outside of the city ,???
Pierre,Wakeup is just wanting you to think about it is all.
Your FAMILY property has boundaries to everyone else except your family right?
So WHY does YOUR property need boundaries?
Could it be because OUTSIDE of your families boundaries, there are OTHER families besides yours?Quote so is that city on earth Yes.
This is that MOUNTAIN.
This is that CAMP.
This is that BARN.
These are the ruins rebuilt of those BRETHREN who were FIRST but now become the LAST.Quote is this city alone on earth No.
A small HANDFUL of cities will “remain”, a number which a CHILD can count…which is not many!!Are they inhabited?
NO.
They will be left as an abandoned SIGN to the millennial generations like Sodom & Gomorrah were for us.Why would I “predict” this?
I'm no prophet!!Logic is why…Spiritual logic.
Because ALL INFRASTRUCTURE that could sustain mass concentrations of people…like in cities…will be DESTROYED like God foretold.
The only thing to survive in these cities will be WILD ANIMALS.
Those abandoned cities too will become RUINS over time.ALL men to the countryside as foretold.
Villages would prevail once again.Remember…the stone cut without hands must FIRST GROW into a MOUNTAIN before FILLING the WHOLE earth.
And this Mountain spreads PURE TRUTH to every inhabitant who will receive it & it is the ONLY doctrine being spread in the whole world.
Who could or would possibly be able to spread any CONTRARY word when the WORD HIMSELF will be directly RULING with His ROD OF IRON and SPEEDY judgments?
So, that MOUNTAIN is NOT yet BORN or GROWING or SPREADING or FILLING the earth right NOW…For there are STILL other RELIGIONS being spread in the world today.
Quote are the righteous the only people outside of the city ,???
Depends on your understanding of WHICH righteous group you speak of?
Other words, please be more TIME specific & GROUP specific in your question.Cheers.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2013,13:20) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,17:49) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2013,11:44) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,16:29) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2013,11:16) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,11:37) Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 16 2013,06:01) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,10:45) j42 Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it anything that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie, but they which are written in the Lambs book of life.
what do you understand from this scripture
Hi Pierre,I understand it exactly as it says.
Nothing defiled or any one that lies, or works abomination can enter. They cannot go into into this holy city, so they must still be existing, or else why would he mention them, if they are all destroyed already.
j42so is that city on earth
is this city alone on earth are the righteous the only people outside of the city ,???
Terra.Answer a question with a question.
wakeup.
WUPwen you ask a question is it because you do not know
or you are curios if the others would know about it
or you just ask in regard of ……..
Terra.
We are waisting our time with this,,lets just respond to J42's scriptures.Lets try to answer all the why's.??
wakeup.
WupJ42 ,does not ask questions ,I am the one that ask questions but like always you can not answer them as well ,
So I will leave it alone bye
O' Terra,I can see that you are not hungry for the truth.
You just let it pass as if it is not important for you to know. You are feeling rich in knowledge.You are settled with the wine that has made you drunken. You are so comfortable in your nest with no eggs. Dont you worry that your eggs has been taken from you? Your nakedness will show at the coming.
Revelation 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be CLOTHED, and that the SHAME of thy NAKEDNESS do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with EYESALVE, that thou mayest SEE.
wakeup.
wupQuote O' Terra, you , most of the time give me a taste of your arrogance ,I am not looking for anything in return for what God allows me to understand ,not even a thank you ,you can thank God ,
Terra.
Why would you abandon such a knowledge,when it can increase your knowledge in knowing your God?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 17 2013,09:18) Terra. Why would you abandon such a knowledge,when it can increase your knowledge in knowing your God?
wakeup.
wupto be honest I have not learn anything from any one except Mike who pointed out a couple things that I did not pay attention close enough ,
all I have learn I have received from God trough his word,piece by piece
I do never abandon my knowledge what I share with any one I meet and the wife ,so it is not lost,
Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 16 2013,13:25) terraricca,Jan. wrote:[/quote]
Quote J42 ,does not ask questions ,I am the one that ask questions but like always you can not answer them as well , Hi Pierre,
This is the question I asked on the first post.
Quote The city is square, and is high as it is wide and long.
Why the need for this city to have boundaries?Quote So I will leave it alone bye
No need to leave it alone Pierre, this is a good discussion.
j42Heb 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly,
REV 21:2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.
REV 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is among men, and He will dwell among them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be among them,REV 14:3 And they * sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders; and no one could learn the song except the one hundred and forty-four thousand who had been purchased from the earth.
REV 14:4 These are the ones who have not been defiled with women, for they have kept themselves chaste. These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. These have been purchased from among men as first fruits to God and to the Lamb.
REV 14:5 And no lie was found in their mouth; they are blamelessREV 22:1 Then he showed me a river of the water of life, clear as crystal, coming from the throne of God and of the Lamb,
REV 22:2 in the middle of its street. On either side of the river was the tree of life, bearing twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
REV 22:3 There will no longer be any curse; and the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and His bond-servants will serve Him;
REV 22:4 they will see His face, and His name will be on their foreheads.
REV 22:5 And there will no longer be any night; and they will not have need of the light of a lamp nor the light of the sun, because the Lord God will illumine them; and they will reign forever and ever.all those scriptures are refer to the heavenly Jerusalem that includes the temple of God and the Lamb this is what comes down from heaven ,and will be on the earth ,and used to heal the nations ,
as it is describe above;
Jn 1:51 He then added, “I tell you the truth, you shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man.”
Jn 3:15 that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.
so the boundaries are to keep people out ,but the doors are made to let the right people in ,
REV 22:14 Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter by the gates into the city.
REV 7:13 Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “These who are clothed in the white robes, who are they, and where have they come from?”
REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
REV 7:15 “For this reason, they are before the throne of God; and they serve Him day and night in His temple; ;“””and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them.”””but ;
REV 11:2 “ Leave out the court which is outside the temple and do not measure it, for it has been given to the nations; and they will tread under foot the holy city for forty-two months
I come to the understanding that this will happen after the 1000 years and with the second resurrection
Ex 40:29 He set the altar of burnt offering near the entrance to the tabernacle, the Tent of Meeting, and offered on it burnt offerings and grain offerings, as the LORD commanded him.
Ex 40:33 Then Moses set up the courtyard around the tabernacle and altar and put up the curtain at the entrance to the courtyard. And so Moses finished the work.Ex 40:34 Then the cloud covered the Tent of Meeting, and the glory of the LORD filled the tabernacle.
Nu 1:50 Instead, appoint the Levites to be in charge of the tabernacle of the Testimony—over all its furnishings and everything belonging to it. They are to carry the tabernacle and all its furnishings; they are to take care of it and encamp around it.
Heb 8:5 They serve at a sanctuary that is a copy and shadow of what is in heaven. This is why Moses was warned when he was about to build the tabernacle: “See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.”
well it is late get back on it after you read it ,
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2013,17:04) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 17 2013,09:18) Terra. Why would you abandon such a knowledge,when it can increase your knowledge in knowing your God?
wakeup.
wupto be honest I have not learn anything from any one except Mike who pointed out a couple things that I did not pay attention close enough ,
all I have learn I have received from God trough his word,piece by piece
I do never abandon my knowledge what I share with any one I meet and the wife ,so it is not lost,
Terra.You should have learned plenty by now,
but if you can not see, then maybe its not time,
yet. Maybe some other time.wakeup.
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