Hinduism

[NickHassan]

Hi,
I have copied BD's post to here
He said

“The scripture does not say that the Head of Christ is God the Father. It says that the Head of Christ is GOD

so why did you add “the Father” when it says The head of Christ is God.

Your belief about Jesus is very Hindu and their Trinity Doctrine predates yours. Your Christ sounds like Krishna.

I am not being disparaging, I just don't know if you realize that to understand true Christianity you would have to understand Judaism but to understand what you believe to be Christianity you would have to understand Hinduism.

You do understand that after the Romans and other paganistic and heathen cultures started converting to Christianity it became a blend of original and pagan ideas, right?

What you believe about Chist is exactly identical to Krishna

The idea of the trinity has caused many of people to be confused, it is not confusing to me because it is not what the bible or Jesus teaches us to believe.
The bible teaches directly that Jesus is the “Son” of God
That God sent Jesus that whosoever believe in him should not perish
That Jesus is an obedient servant/son who worships God in the sense as Abraham, Isaac and Moses
That Jesus is the Christ and is a priest in the order of Melchesidec
That Jesus is the mediator between God and Men and Jesus is a Man born of a Woman who was a virgin

The people who always seem confused are the ones who insist God came in the flesh which is not biblical but very Hindu
God is 3 persons which once again is very Hindu .

Hindu precedes Christianity. The “Lord Krishna” Died in the year 3600 BC but most Christians believe in a Hindu type of Christ, look for yourself:

Below is what hindu's have always believed about Krishna even before Christ came into the world the person who wrote the things below even show some comparisons.

Krishna is called both a God and the Son of God.
Krishna was sent from heaven to earth in the form of a man.
Krishna is called Savior, and the second person of the Trinity.
 
Krishna claimed: “I am the Resurrection.”
Krishna was  “without sin.”  

Both were god-men: being considered both human and divine.
They were both considered omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent.

Both performed many miracles, including the healing of disease. One of the first miracles that both performed was to make a leper whole. Each cured “all manner of diseases.”  

Both cast out indwelling demons, and raised the dead.

Both selected disciples to spread his teachings.

Both were meek, and merciful. Both were criticized for associating with sinners.

Many people witnessed their ascensions into heaven.

Krishna and Jesus were both saviors of mankind and avatars of God who have returned to earth at an especially critical time in the lives of their people. They were the incarnates of the Divine Being Himself in human form to teach human beings divine love, divine power, divine wisdom, and lead the benighted world towards the light of God.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jckr1.htm

The fact is true Christianity was hard to maintain as the gentiles started converting. Most of the things you tell me you believe are what I would call Hindu or Egyptian beliefs.

I don't disparage the belief as such, but if someone wants to understand what was really taught one has to know that what they think they know now, did not come from the source they claim. You may not know that much about world religous history and because you were taught about your religion from a bias position you assume you know it but the truth is that the root of your religion is in Judaism so to even comprehend Jesus you would have to understand Judaism as knowing what a Jew believes is knowing what Jesus taught.

Whether it be Judaism or Islam what they both agree on is that some forms of Christianity are ignorant about what they worship. The bible even agrees with them as God calls them Foolish.

Jews are provoked as God said they would be when some Christians worship what they don't understand and call it God.

Once you understand that God did not want the Israelites to have a King you will understand what God has done.”

[kerwin]

BD wrote:

Quote

Once you understand that God did not want the Israelites to have a King you will understand what God has done.”

You should reread that passage and expand what you read and you will find that God accuses the Hebrews of wanting a king instead of Him.

If you read Judges you find the complaint is that because there was no king the people did what they wanted and not necessary what God desired.

My conclusion is that God didn't object to the king so much as He objected to being rejected by the Hebrew people.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (kerwin @ April 24 2009,11:04)

BD wrote: Quote Once you understand that God did not want the Israelites to have a King you will understand what God has done.” You should reread that passage and expand what you read and you will find that God accuses the Hebrews of wanting a king instead of Him. If you read Judges you find the complaint is that because there was no king the people did what they wanted and not necessary what God desired. My conclusion is that God didn't object to the king so much as He objected to being rejected by the Hebrew people.

So what did he do about it?

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2009,08:56)

Hi, I have copied BD's post to here He said “The scripture does not say that the Head of Christ is God the Father. It says that the Head of Christ is GOD so why did you add “the Father” when it says The head of Christ is God. Your belief about Jesus is very Hindu and their Trinity Doctrine predates yours. Your Christ sounds like Krishna. I am not being disparaging, I just don't know if you realize that to understand true Christianity you would have to understand Judaism but to understand what you believe to be Christianity you would have to understand Hinduism. You do understand that after the Romans and other paganistic and heathen cultures started converting to Christianity it became a blend of original and pagan ideas, right? What you believe about Chist is exactly identical to Krishna The idea of the trinity has caused many of people to be confused, it is not confusing to me because it is not what the bible or Jesus teaches us to believe. The bible teaches directly that Jesus is the “Son” of God That God sent Jesus that whosoever believe in him should not perish That Jesus is an obedient servant/son who worships God in the sense as Abraham, Isaac and Moses That Jesus is the Christ and is a priest in the order of Melchesidec That Jesus is the mediator between God and Men and Jesus is a Man born of a Woman who was a virgin The people who always seem confused are the ones who insist God came in the flesh which is not biblical but very Hindu God is 3 persons which once again is very Hindu . Hindu precedes Christianity. The “Lord Krishna” Died in the year 3600 BC but most Christians believe in a Hindu type of Christ, look for yourself: Below is what hindu's have always believed about Krishna even before Christ came into the world the person who wrote the things below even show some comparisons. Krishna is called both a God and the Son of God. Krishna was sent from heaven to earth in the form of a man. Krishna is called Savior, and the second person of the Trinity.   Krishna claimed: “I am the Resurrection.” Krishna was  “without sin.”   Both were god-men: being considered both human and divine. They were both considered omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent. Both performed many miracles, including the healing of disease. One of the first miracles that both performed was to make a leper whole. Each cured “all manner of diseases.”   Both cast out indwelling demons, and raised the dead. Both selected disciples to spread his teachings. Both were meek, and merciful. Both were criticized for associating with sinners. Many people witnessed their ascensions into heaven. Krishna and Jesus were both saviors of mankind and avatars of God who have returned to earth at an especially critical time in the lives of their people. They were the incarnates of the Divine Being Himself in human form to teach human beings divine love, divine power, divine wisdom, and lead the benighted world towards the light of God. http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jckr1.htm The fact is true Christianity was hard to maintain as the gentiles started converting. Most of the things you tell me you believe are what I would call Hindu or Egyptian beliefs. I don't disparage the belief as such, but if someone wants to understand what was really taught one has to know that what they think they know now, did not come from the source they claim. You may not know that much about world religous history and because you were taught about your religion from a bias position you assume you know it but the truth is that the root of your religion is in Judaism so to even comprehend Jesus you would have to understand Judaism as knowing what a Jew believes is knowing what Jesus taught. Whether it be Judaism or Islam what they both agree on is that some forms of Christianity are ignorant about what they worship. The bible even agrees with them as God calls them Foolish. Jews are provoked as God said they would be when some Christians worship what they don't understand and call it God. Once you understand that God did not want the Israelites to have a King you will understand what God has done.”

Hi all

This post is hilarious and the premise is ecstatic.

Look real close at what was believed of Krishna, and compare with what scriptures say about Jesus.

As you can see most everything about Krishna is what you as a Christian believes about Jesus. Only in the Trinity do you differ and yet you make it as if our belief in the Trinity is so far different from yours.

Maybe Jesus believed in Krishna or at least stole his thoughts?

   

WJ

BTW, the Title is “Hinduism” Idolatry. You should all repent for following Krishna's beliefs!

[bodhitharta]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 24 2009,12:02)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2009,08:56) Hi, I have copied BD's post to here He said “The scripture does not say that the Head of Christ is God the Father. It says that the Head of Christ is GOD so why did you add “the Father” when it says The head of Christ is God. Your belief about Jesus is very Hindu and their Trinity Doctrine predates yours. Your Christ sounds like Krishna. I am not being disparaging, I just don't know if you realize that to understand true Christianity you would have to understand Judaism but to understand what you believe to be Christianity you would have to understand Hinduism. You do understand that after the Romans and other paganistic and heathen cultures started converting to Christianity it became a blend of original and pagan ideas, right? What you believe about Chist is exactly identical to Krishna The idea of the trinity has caused many of people to be confused, it is not confusing to me because it is not what the bible or Jesus teaches us to believe. The bible teaches directly that Jesus is the “Son” of God That God sent Jesus that whosoever believe in him should not perish That Jesus is an obedient servant/son who worships God in the sense as Abraham, Isaac and Moses That Jesus is the Christ and is a priest in the order of Melchesidec That Jesus is the mediator between God and Men and Jesus is a Man born of a Woman who was a virgin The people who always seem confused are the ones who insist God came in the flesh which is not biblical but very Hindu God is 3 persons which once again is very Hindu . Hindu precedes Christianity. The “Lord Krishna” Died in the year 3600 BC but most Christians believe in a Hindu type of Christ, look for yourself: Below is what hindu's have always believed about Krishna even before Christ came into the world the person who wrote the things below even show some comparisons. Krishna is called both a God and the Son of God. Krishna was sent from heaven to earth in the form of a man. Krishna is called Savior, and the second person of the Trinity.   Krishna claimed: “I am the Resurrection.” Krishna was  “without sin.”   Both were god-men: being considered both human and divine. They were both considered omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent. Both performed many miracles, including the healing of disease. One of the first miracles that both performed was to make a leper whole. Each cured “all manner of diseases.”   Both cast out indwelling demons, and raised the dead. Both selected disciples to spread his teachings. Both were meek, and merciful. Both were criticized for associating with sinners. Many people witnessed their ascensions into heaven. Krishna and Jesus were both saviors of mankind and avatars of God who have returned to earth at an especially critical time in the lives of their people. They were the incarnates of the Divine Being Himself in human form to teach human beings divine love, divine power, divine wisdom, and lead the benighted world towards the light of God. http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jckr1.htm The fact is true Christianity was hard to maintain as the gentiles started converting. Most of the things you tell me you believe are what I would call Hindu or Egyptian beliefs. I don't disparage the belief as such, but if someone wants to understand what was really taught one has to know that what they think they know now, did not come from the source they claim. You may not know that much about world religous history and because you were taught about your religion from a bias position you assume you know it but the truth is that the root of your religion is in Judaism so to even comprehend Jesus you would have to understand Judaism as knowing what a Jew believes is knowing what Jesus taught. Whether it be Judaism or Islam what they both agree on is that some forms of Christianity are ignorant about what they worship. The bible even agrees with them as God calls them Foolish. Jews are provoked as God said they would be when some Christians worship what they don't understand and call it God. Once you understand that God did not want the Israelites to have a King you will understand what God has done.” Hi all This post is hilarious and the premise is ecstatic. Look real close at what was believed of Krishna, and compare with what scriptures say about Jesus. As you can see most everything about Krishna is what you as a Christian believes about Jesus. Only in the Trinity do you differ and yet you make it as if our belief in the Trinity is so far different from yours. Maybe Jesus believed in Krishna or at least stole his thoughts?     WJ BTW, the Title is “Hinduism” Idolatry. You should all repent for following Krishna's beliefs!

No, You Believe that Jesus “Is” God
You believe that Jesus is part of a Trinity
You believe that Jesus is fully human and fully divine
You believe that Jesus is Omniscient, Omnipresent and Omnipotent

You believe that Jesus was God Himself incarnated in the flesh

[bodhitharta]

Quote (bodhitharta @ April 24 2009,12:10)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 24 2009,12:02) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2009,08:56) Hi, I have copied BD's post to here He said “The scripture does not say that the Head of Christ is God the Father. It says that the Head of Christ is GOD so why did you add “the Father” when it says The head of Christ is God. Your belief about Jesus is very Hindu and their Trinity Doctrine predates yours. Your Christ sounds like Krishna. I am not being disparaging, I just don't know if you realize that to understand true Christianity you would have to understand Judaism but to understand what you believe to be Christianity you would have to understand Hinduism. You do understand that after the Romans and other paganistic and heathen cultures started converting to Christianity it became a blend of original and pagan ideas, right? What you believe about Chist is exactly identical to Krishna The idea of the trinity has caused many of people to be confused, it is not confusing to me because it is not what the bible or Jesus teaches us to believe. The bible teaches directly that Jesus is the “Son” of God That God sent Jesus that whosoever believe in him should not perish That Jesus is an obedient servant/son who worships God in the sense as Abraham, Isaac and Moses That Jesus is the Christ and is a priest in the order of Melchesidec That Jesus is the mediator between God and Men and Jesus is a Man born of a Woman who was a virgin The people who always seem confused are the ones who insist God came in the flesh which is not biblical but very Hindu God is 3 persons which once again is very Hindu . Hindu precedes Christianity. The “Lord Krishna” Died in the year 3600 BC but most Christians believe in a Hindu type of Christ, look for yourself: Below is what hindu's have always believed about Krishna even before Christ came into the world the person who wrote the things below even show some comparisons. Krishna is called both a God and the Son of God. Krishna was sent from heaven to earth in the form of a man. Krishna is called Savior, and the second person of the Trinity.   Krishna claimed: “I am the Resurrection.” Krishna was  “without sin.”   Both were god-men: being considered both human and divine. They were both considered omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent. Both performed many miracles, including the healing of disease. One of the first miracles that both performed was to make a leper whole. Each cured “all manner of diseases.”   Both cast out indwelling demons, and raised the dead. Both selected disciples to spread his teachings. Both were meek, and merciful. Both were criticized for associating with sinners. Many people witnessed their ascensions into heaven. Krishna and Jesus were both saviors of mankind and avatars of God who have returned to earth at an especially critical time in the lives of their people. They were the incarnates of the Divine Being Himself in human form to teach human beings divine love, divine power, divine wisdom, and lead the benighted world towards the light of God. http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jckr1.htm The fact is true Christianity was hard to maintain as the gentiles started converting. Most of the things you tell me you believe are what I would call Hindu or Egyptian beliefs. I don't disparage the belief as such, but if someone wants to understand what was really taught one has to know that what they think they know now, did not come from the source they claim. You may not know that much about world religous history and because you were taught about your religion from a bias position you assume you know it but the truth is that the root of your religion is in Judaism so to even comprehend Jesus you would have to understand Judaism as knowing what a Jew believes is knowing what Jesus taught. Whether it be Judaism or Islam what they both agree on is that some forms of Christianity are ignorant about what they worship. The bible even agrees with them as God calls them Foolish. Jews are provoked as God said they would be when some Christians worship what they don't understand and call it God. Once you understand that God did not want the Israelites to have a King you will understand what God has done.” Hi all This post is hilarious and the premise is ecstatic. Look real close at what was believed of Krishna, and compare with what scriptures say about Jesus. As you can see most everything about Krishna is what you as a Christian believes about Jesus. Only in the Trinity do you differ and yet you make it as if our belief in the Trinity is so far different from yours. Maybe Jesus believed in Krishna or at least stole his thoughts?     WJ BTW, the Title is “Hinduism” Idolatry. You should all repent for following Krishna's beliefs!   No, You Believe that Jesus “Is” God      You believe that Jesus is part of a Trinity      You believe that Jesus is fully human and fully divine      You believe that Jesus is Omniscient, Omnipresent and Omnipotent       You believe that Jesus was God Himself incarnated in the flesh

Actually “divine” is acceptable as it only means Godlike which Jesus is Godlike.

Here are two distinct usages of divinity and divine in religious discourse:

To refer to powers or forces that are universal, or transcend human capacities

To refer to qualities of individuals who are considered to have some special access or relationship to the divine

So it would be more accurate to say:

Jesus was not Fully Human and Fully God.

[kerwin]

Quote (bodhitharta @ April 24 2009,06:20)

Quote (kerwin @ April 24 2009,11:04) BD wrote: Quote Once you understand that God did not want the Israelites to have a King you will understand what God has done.” You should reread that passage and expand what you read and you will find that God accuses the Hebrews of wanting a king instead of Him. If you read Judges you find the complaint is that because there was no king the people did what they wanted and not necessary what God desired. My conclusion is that God didn't object to the king so much as He objected to being rejected by the Hebrew people. So what did he do about it?

He let them have their way for a time and then sent Jesus who as King truly represents God.

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