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  • #140496

    but you can read bible then look at reports to see Jesus was here

    #140505
    Stu
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    You can read reports of Sherlock Holmes in the writing of Arthur Conan Doyle.

    Is Holmes an historical figure?

    Stuart

    #140671

    The Lord is here among us cause God is a spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth

    #140683
    Stu
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    The Greeks thought Jesus was a spirit too.

    Stuart

    #140870

    but did they know He was the Holy Spirit?

    #140905
    Stu
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    They didn't think he actually walked on earth. That would cause problems for you salvation were it true, I imagine.

    Stuart

    #140923

    it does cause problems

    #140943
    seekingtruth
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    Quote (Stu @ July 22 2009,20:35)

    Quote (seekingtruth @ July 22 2009,21:36)
    So what your saying is that the comparably simple requirements for random pulses to create the writing for these “Stu” posts, requires intelligence, but the infinitely more complexity of the world around us just happens…


    No, I would expect t8 to say that.

    Intelligence is what we call the actions of humans who arose by natural selection.  The world around us is not more complex than the brain inside us, on the whole.

    Stuart


    Once again you assert that your posts are the result of intelligence, but this goes against the line of reason presented by these random pulses known as stu, as they give praise to; something from nothing, order from chaos, why deny it now?

    As to sounding like T8, he may not like the comparison but it is one of the better compliments I've gotten. Too bad it wasn't from a real person, but was just an accident of nature.

    Wm

    #140959
    Stu
    Participant

    seekingtruth

    It is not meant to be a compliment to be compared to t8. He may be a master of mythological argument about angels dancing on pinheads, but when it comes to empirical reality he is ill prepared to comment.

    My first single-celled ancestor, and yours, was an accident of chemistry; since then the natural selection of which we are both products has not been an accidental process save for the random mutations on which it feeds.

    Stuart

    #140973
    seekingtruth
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    Stu,
    Wow, it sure seems to take a lot of faith to believe in your god “natural selection”, it has blindly made innumerable mutations which advanced the many “freaks of nature” to all we see today. Of course the failure of your god to produce immortality has led to the death of…everyone and everything. But what's the big deal we're just off-springs of an accident so; eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow we die. It seems your god requires only one sacrifice… hope. And as a prophet for your god you spend your efforts attempting to destroy the faith and hopes of others, I guess it is true… misery loves company.

    My opinion – Wm

    #141015

    we are here by intelegent desigh

    #141033
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (seekingtruth @ Aug. 15 2009,04:21)
    Stu,
    Wow, it sure seems to take a lot of faith to believe in your god “natural selection”, it has blindly made innumerable mutations which advanced the many “freaks of nature” to all we see today. Of course the failure of your god to produce immortality has led to the death of…everyone and everything. But what's the big deal we're just off-springs of an accident so; eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow we die. It seems your god requires only one sacrifice… hope. And as a prophet for your god you spend your efforts attempting to destroy the faith and hopes of others, I guess it is true… misery loves company.

    My opinion – Wm


    Reading your post SJ I don't think it has been me eating, drinking and being merry!

    You have not disproved that evolution happens by natural selection, so I guess all the thousands of scientists who use it as a computational tool in their work can carry on without too much to worry about.

    I don't have any gods.

    Immortality is a nonsense concept, except genes “strive” for immortality and some have been around a very long time now.

    I have plenty of hope for humanity. I think you have to be christian to lose hope in what you see around you. Your book of spells promises a utopia but no one knows if it really delivers or not. Sounds like a common scam to me, the false hope of religious faith.

    You can see the world around you as composed of freaks from an atheist point of view if you want. I like to think it is possible to have a more sophisticated view than that.

    Stuart

    #141034
    Stu
    Participant

    My apologies, that last post should have been addressed to ST!

    Stuart

    #141035
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Jesus name follower of Christ @ Aug. 15 2009,09:11)
    we are here by intelegent desigh


    But not by intelligent spelling…

    :;):

    Stuart

    #141205

    i cant spell but God is good

    #141222
    Stu
    Participant

    God talks Elizabethan English. They had some pretty dodgy spelling back then.

    Stuart

    #141323

    huh

    #141390
    kejonn
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    Quote (Jesus name follower of Christ @ Aug. 14 2009,16:11)
    we are here by intelegent desigh


    This is quoteworthy!

    #141419
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 19 2009,11:42)

    Quote (Jesus name follower of Christ @ Aug. 14 2009,16:11)
    we are here by intelegent desigh


    This is quoteworthy!


    I think you can already buy the T-shirt.

    Stuart

    #141439

    huh

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