Has this site ever changed a mind?

[Worshipping Jesus]

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Hi W, All you have to do is abide in the Word. Trinity is not found there so it is surprising that one who espouses Christ as Saviour prefers these human teachings before his?

Matt 28:
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

[NickHassan]

Hi W,
Then teach what he taught.

[Worshipping Jesus]

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Head towards the prophets past they shall declear the power in his Name

Amen to that!

Isa 9:6
[6] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Pss 45:
3] Gird thy sword upon thy thigh, O most mighty, with thy glory and thy majesty.
[4] And in thy majesty ride prosperously because of truth and meekness and righteousness; and thy right hand shall teach thee terrible things.
[5] Thine arrows are sharp in the heart of the king's enemies; whereby the people fall under thee.
[6] Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.
[7] Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
[8] All thy garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces, whereby they have made thee glad.
[9] Kings' daughters were among thy honourable women: upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir.
[10] Hearken, O daughter, and consider, and incline thine ear; forget also thine own people, and thy father's house;
[11] So shall the king greatly desire thy beauty: for he is thy Lord; and worship thou him.

Ps 45:6
Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom [is] a right sceptre.

Just to mention a few!

[NickHassan]

Hi W,
Grace to you.
No one has ever changed their own mind to that of Christ.
That is the work of the Spirit to transform our minds by renewal but we do need to cooperate by feeding on the Word, not just searching for scriptural doctrinal justifications from it.

[charity]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 18 2007,01:01)

Quote Head towards the prophets past they shall declear the power in his Name Amen to that! Isa 9:6 [6] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Pss 45: 3] Gird thy sword upon thy thigh, O most mighty, with thy glory and thy majesty. [4] And in thy majesty ride prosperously because of truth and meekness and righteousness; and thy right hand shall teach thee terrible things. [5] Thine arrows are sharp in the heart of the king's enemies; whereby the people fall under thee. [6] Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. [7] Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. [8] All thy garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces, whereby they have made thee glad. [9] Kings' daughters were among thy honourable women: upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir. [10] Hearken, O daughter, and consider, and incline thine ear; forget also thine own people, and thy father's house; [11] So shall the king greatly desire thy beauty: for he is thy Lord; and worship thou him. Ps 45:6 Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom [is] a right sceptre. Just to mention a few!

Ps 45:6
Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom [is] a right sceptre.

The fathers kingdom… that God first sat the father of Jesus on who held the covernent of promised life David
Isa 9:7 Of the increase of [his] government and peace [there shall be] no end, upon the throne of David, and upon *his kingdom*, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

The zeal of the Lord of hosts will preform it?
Flesh with the will and mind of God, was the promise; and Gods given “word” that it shall be preformed,
The Word Of God Came

Isa 9:6
[6] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

All in all it is Gods sets up the Kingdom

Where do you wish to seat the queen on Gods right side?
I am Glad you have removed her veil to see her

[9] Kings' daughters were among thy honourable women: upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir.

Females are made for men…To give attention is to worship, so she must not be deceived by a contentious male

[10] Hearken, O daughter, and consider, and incline thine ear; forget also thine own people, and thy father's house;
[11] So shall the king greatly desire thy beauty: for he is thy Lord; and worship thou him.

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[13] And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

Look closely.

Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, AND unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

It mentions 2.

Jesus is the Lamb OF God.

[Proclaimer]

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Quote Head towards the prophets past they shall declear the power in his Name Amen to that! Isa 9:6 [6] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Pss 45: 3] Gird thy sword upon thy thigh, O most mighty, with thy glory and thy majesty. [4] And in thy majesty ride prosperously because of truth and meekness and righteousness; and thy right hand shall teach thee terrible things. [5] Thine arrows are sharp in the heart of the king's enemies; whereby the people fall under thee. [6] Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. [7] Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. [8] All thy garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces, whereby they have made thee glad. [9] Kings' daughters were among thy honourable women: upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir. [10] Hearken, O daughter, and consider, and incline thine ear; forget also thine own people, and thy father's house; [11] So shall the king greatly desire thy beauty: for he is thy Lord; and worship thou him. Ps 45:6 Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom [is] a right sceptre. Just to mention a few!

To WorshippingJesus.

The same old scriptures misquoted in the same old way to promote the same old false doctrine to keep people enslaved to the same old Babylonian thinking.

We have come out of her. We would be mad to go back. Trying to call us back into slavery is silly. We are free because the truth has set us free.

You cannot outdo what God has for those that serve him and love him. We abide in the truth and the hope we have is eternal life.

Your wasting your own time if you think we would give up abiding in the truth for abiding by the words of men.

[Worshipping Jesus]

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Look closely. Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, AND unto the Lamb for ever and ever. It mentions 2. Jesus is the Lamb OF God.

t8

Well at least yu are admitting there are to in the Godhead being worshipped!

[Worshipping Jesus]

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To WorshippingJesus. The same old scriptures misquoted in the same old way to promote the same old false doctrine to keep people enslaved to the same old Babylonian thinking. We have come out of her. We would be mad to go back. Trying to call us back into slavery is silly. We are free because the truth has set us free. You cannot outdo what God has for those that serve him and love him. We abide in the truth and the hope we have is eternal life. Your wasting your own time if you think we would give up abiding in the truth for abiding by the words of men.

t8

Here we go again. Same ole response just say I misquoted the same ole scripture without giving an answer to why.

I am sorry to see that you feel this way about the scriptures “same ole scriptures”.

I thought children of God the King never grow tired of the Kings words.

[NickHassan]

Hi W,
What is a godhead?

[charity]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 19 2007,05:08)

Quote To WorshippingJesus. The same old scriptures misquoted in the same old way to promote the same old false doctrine to keep people enslaved to the same old Babylonian thinking. We have come out of her. We would be mad to go back. Trying to call us back into slavery is silly. We are free because the truth has set us free. You cannot outdo what God has for those that serve him and love him. We abide in the truth and the hope we have is eternal life. Your wasting your own time if you think we would give up abiding in the truth for abiding by the words of men. t8 Here we go again. Same ole response just say I misquoted the same ole scripture without giving an answer to why. I am sorry to see that you feel this way about the scriptures “same ole scriptures”. I thought children of God the King never grow tired of the Kings words.

Dan 7:25 And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

[Worshipping Jesus]

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Dan 7:25 And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Charity

Do you claim to be a prophet here also?

[charity]

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Quote Dan 7:25 And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. Charity Do you claim to be a prophet here also?

Just a torch light

2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost.

Look Satan was not pleased with god’s choice of Son, he would have preferred it to be him, and pride took over
And there are a lot of follows deceived into his kingdom as he screwed up interpretations of the God and the father and the Son

I am thankful to this forum for the light

I also have been persuaded being free to listen

And thankful also to those who have been wearied to help others understand

[Worshipping Jesus]

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Just a torch light 2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost. Look Satan was not pleased with god’s choice of Son, he would have preferred it to be him, and pride took over And there are a lot of follows deceived into his kingdom as he screwed up interpretations of the God and the father and the Son I am thankful to this forum for the light I also have been persuaded being free to listen And thankful also to those who have been wearied to help others understand

Charity

Good for you.

[NickHassan]

Hi W,
Prophets tell the future but you oppose the Word in the present.

[charity]

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Quote Just a torch light 2Pe 1:20  Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 2Pe 1:21  For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost. Look Satan was not pleased with god’s choice of Son, he would have preferred it to be him, and pride took over And there are a lot of follows deceived into his kingdom as he screwed up interpretations of the God and the father and the Son I am thankful to this forum for the light I also have been persuaded being free to listen And thankful also to those who have been wearied to help others understand Charity Good for you.

I do hold a very large fear towards my God I do not wish to change times and seasons also but understand the heat of this day

Rev 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.

Rev 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
Rev 22:12 ¶ And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward [is] with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

[Worshipping Jesus]

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I do hold a very large fear towards my God I do not wish to change times and seasons also but understand the heat of this day Rev 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. Rev 22:11  He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. Rev 22:12 ¶ And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward [is] with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Charity

Amen!

Good words. We all would do well to examine our hearts, and confess our sins daily.

I Cor 11:28
But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

II Cor 13:5
Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

Bless yoiu Charity!

[Is 1:18]

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Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 18 2007,16:04) [13] And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. Look closely. Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, AND unto the Lamb for ever and ever. It mentions 2. Jesus is the Lamb OF God.

An excellent argument to make to a sabellianist….

[charity]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 19 2007,07:42)

Quote I do hold a very large fear towards my God I do not wish to change times and seasons also but understand the heat of this day Rev 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. Rev 22:11  He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. Rev 22:12 ¶ And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward [is] with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. Charity Amen! Good words. We all would do well to examine our hearts, and confess our sins daily. I Cor 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. II Cor 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? Bless yoiu Charity!

You too

may we seek the truth with a faithfull heart

The rewards are great

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Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 20 2007,02:59)

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 19 2007,03:55) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 18 2007,16:04) [13] And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. Look closely. Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, AND unto the Lamb for ever and ever. It mentions 2. Jesus is the Lamb OF God. An excellent argument to make to a sabellianist….

Don't you mean a Sabellian?

I also give you permission to take my post and make a case for Sabellianism if you want to. Not sure if anyone will believe you however.

I personally teach as scripture says, that God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. The son of God is the the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world.

Trinitarians believe that God is triune, therefore if they are consistent should they not believe that THE TRINITY so loved the world that THE TRINITY gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life?

How about we get past labels and call false doctrine what it is?

Ontology, Sabellianism, Triune, Creedal formulas, and other concepts are often used to baffle people with bull. But once a person has seen the true light and is in the truth, then it is harder to fool such a person.

A similar situation can be found in the field of science. Evolutionists have baffled millions of people with their theory and because of peoples ignorance, they accept these people's views as authoritative.

But we haven't thrown away our minds. God gave us the ability to think and to check out all things to see if they are true.

The Trinity contradicts scripture, so I confidently say that it is a false doctrine and a lie from the enemy.

Those who teach false doctrine are not in the will of God with regards to their teaching.

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