HAS CHRIST BEEN RULING IN HIS KINGDOM

[Wakeup]

MANY BELIEVE THAT CHRIST HAS BEEN RULING
IN HIS KINGDOM ON EARTH FOR 2000YRS NOW.
IS IT TRUE OR FALSE?

I say it is absolutely false.

Proof:
1. His kingdom according to prophecy will only last 1000yrs before he will hand it over to his Father, AND IT WILL BE ON EARTH.
Not 2000yrs according to mens interpretation,which is accepted by the christian world.

2. This so called 2000yr kingdom is split into 3000 or more denominations that contradicts each other,and war each other.
This only means that the Holy spirit is not with them,but the spirit of the world is leading them.

3. The stone cut out without hands in Dan.2:45.
suppose to have crushed all the kingdoms into dust.
But instead they are all here, and going strong,for 2000yrs increasing in their worldly knowledge,but decreasing in Gods knowledge.And the great falling away is in the pipeline.

4.This so called 2000yr kingdom of christ is called the Mother of harlots by God.rev,17:5.Babylon the great.
Is christs kingdom ruling side by side with the mother of harlots? This is blasphemy,for Christ has nothing to do with satan.(what have I got to do with you satan;Jesus words).

5.Christ says ;that in his 1000yr kingdom,there will be peace,no pain ,no sorrows, no wars,and knowledge will cover the earth as the sea cover the earth.
And the lion will eat straw. Today none of that are to be seen. Instead we have wars after wars,earth quakes,floods,whirl winds,pain and sorrow,fear.This is the sign of Gods anger.

6. This only proves that satan is in charge still; his character is reflected in peoples behaviour,and NOT JESUS teachings.
The true believers suppose to have ONE spirit in Christ,but instead we have many divers spirits of man
corrupted by the god of this world,which is now still ruling the world for the last 2000yrs also.

7.Only the few true believers have the one song they sing,and that song is not known to the majority.
The majotity sings the song of the world.
Satan is a very proud creature,and his fellows follow his character,and his deeds.

8. NO; Christ kingdom is still to come,and very soon.
And his kingdom will be real;not a pseudo kingdom.
His kingdom will have boundaries 2240x2240x2240km.
This is not just a dreamlike kingdom.This will be his first dominion,his 1000yr dominion.

9. He will rule with an iron fist over the remnants of the gentiles ourside. We will see him as he is,and we will rule with him over the jews.
The chosen jews that has been brought back from the grave will live in paradise,where the lion eats straw.
I have not seen any lion eat straw,have you?

10.The resurrected saints will have inherited the kingdom of God,and have a new body, made of spirit like the angels.Not flesh and bone,but they can transform themselves if necessary.

11. Is this 2000yr old christian world the kingdom of Christ?
NO; it is far from the truth,it is made up by the so called christian world led by the god of this world,but can not see the difference.They have been fed with junk food,and is suffering from malnutrition,and have not woken up to it,for they are sound asleep spiritually.
For God has given them the spirit of slumber.

And they will sleep a perpetual sleep.
In their heat I will make their feasts,and I will make them drunken,that they may rejoice,and sleep a perpetual sleep,and not awake,said the Lord.

They will rejoice and GIVE GIFTS TO ONE ANOTHER, when the two witnesses will be killed,and their bodies left open to be seen.Rejoice, and be drunken to sleep a perpetual sleep.

You DAUGHTERS that are at ease;you will be troubled.
And the gathering SHALL not come.
Your churches will be empty; for the dwellings of the caged beasts.

Not good news; any other news would be a lie.
It is time to come and drink of the waters that proceeds
from the throne of God. Drink and be filled and never thirst again. Time is short indeed,dont delay.

wakeup.

[2besee]

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5.Christ says ;that in his 1000yr kingdom,there will be peace,no pain ,no sorrows, no wars,and knowledge will cover the earth as the sea cover the earth. And the lion will eat straw.

Where did Jesus say that?

[Wakeup]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 15 2013,10:52)

Quote 5.Christ says ;that in his 1000yr kingdom,there will be peace,no pain ,no sorrows, no wars,and knowledge will cover the earth as the sea cover the earth. And the lion will eat straw. Where did Jesus say that?

2Besee.
You are showing your lack of knowledge.

Read Isiah11. 65. Zech.8.
Those scriptures are about paradise;what else?
Is it about heaven?

wakeup.

[2besee]

Wakeup, there is nowhere in the NT where Jesus says (as you say that He did) – that there will be a thousand year millennium where there will be “peace; no pain; no suffering” as you claim He said.

[2besee]

This is getting old Wakeup.
None of you will listen so why keep on trying with this topic?
You have been warned as to what to expect and what is coming, but you keep on fighting it.

You never answered my question.
What do you expect to see when Jesus returns? A man of light and power sitting on a throne in the earthly Jerusalem?

[Wakeup]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 15 2013,13:16)

This is getting old Wakeup. None of you will listen so why keep on trying with this topic? You have been warned as to what to expect and what is coming, but you keep on fighting it. You never answered my question. What do you expect to see when Jesus returns? A man of light and power sitting on a throne in the earthly Jerusalem?

2Besee.

There is no where in the nt you say?
But that is not the only place to find the answers
my friend. You need to find it in the prophesies,old and new.
In the the new tesrament are the gospels.and the acts of the apostles.

When Jesus appears, every knee shall bow,and every eye shall see him coming with his saints.And the one that pierced him shall see him also.They saw him went up to heaven, and they also will see him coming down from heaven.

He is not just coming in your mind.
Thats not what the scripture says.

wakeup.

[2besee]

Yes and there it all is in Zec 13 and 14 but you say that was not Jesus and His light is not shining as a continuous day without darkness, because you, like the Jews, are still waiting for Him to come, and yes he will come again, Jesus will, but not as you think., He will come in flaming Glory. And the millennium is NOW. Seek the light while it is still shining.

[Wakeup]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 15 2013,14:54)

Yes and there it all is in Zec 13 and 14 but you say that was not Jesus and His light is not shining as a continuous day without darkness, because you, like the Jews, are still waiting for Him to come, and yes he will come again, Jesus will, but not as you think., He will come in flaming Glory. And the millennium is NOW. Seek the light while it is still shining.

2Besee.

Your millennium is not a thousand years,but two thousand years.This alone is a worry.Millennium means one thousand.Not any thousand.

Your millennium is what they have put in your mind.
Its a boogie millennium existing next to the great mother of harlots;BABYLON THE GREAT.Ruling side by side.

Your millennium is a two thousand year of wars and famines and abominations,and wishful thinking.

In Christs millennium there is peace and prosperity,and paradise on earth in israel only 2240kmx2240x2240.
Jerusalem will be *THE* CITY*. with no muslems in it.

You have been duped by satans craftiness.
You have been robbed.Go; and buy gold tried in the fire.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Wup

You are just thinking like the Jews ,they though that the messiah will come and trow the Roman out of Israel ,and the glory of ancient Israel would be restored ,but instead the Massiah came and they did not recognized him ,they stumbled on it s version ,

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 15 2013,19:22)

Wup You are just thinking like the Jews ,they though that the messiah will come and trow the Roman out of Israel ,and the glory of ancient Israel would be restored ,but instead the Massiah came and they did not recognized him ,they stumbled on it s version ,

Terra.

This time the king of the jews will come with power and glory,and all his saints with him.
He will crush babylon into dust.
He will reign in his kingdom for one thousand years only.
no 2 not 3, but one thousand years,in his first dominion.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 15 2013,14:56)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 15 2013,19:22) Wup You are just thinking like the Jews ,they though that the messiah will come and trow the Roman out of Israel ,and the glory of ancient Israel would be restored ,but instead the Massiah came and they did not recognized him ,they stumbled on it s version , Terra. This time the king of the jews will come with power and glory,and all his saints with him. He will crush babylon into dust. He will reign in his kingdom for one thousand years only. no 2 not 3, but one thousand years,in his first dominion. wakeup.

Wup

Did Christ not came with power Yes he did ,,no man has ever spoken like him,no one as ever made so many miracles ,no man as ever be seen to go to heaven by 500 people ,

The gospel is crashing all false teachings ,give hope to the poor, wisdom to the wise ,restore faith in God

And the 1000 years is call the sabbath ,of God or rest of God,

This is different from Christ reign ,or setup of the kingdom,

You mixing all things up ,

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 15 2013,20:25)

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 15 2013,14:56) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 15 2013,19:22) Wup You are just thinking like the Jews ,they though that the messiah will come and trow the Roman out of Israel ,and the glory of ancient Israel would be restored ,but instead the Massiah came and they did not recognized him ,they stumbled on it s version , Terra. This time the king of the jews will come with power and glory,and all his saints with him. He will crush babylon into dust. He will reign in his kingdom for one thousand years only. no 2 not 3, but one thousand years,in his first dominion. wakeup. Wup Did Christ not came with power Yes he did ,,no man has ever spoken like him,no one as ever made so many miracles ,no man as ever be seen to go to heaven by 500 people , The gospel is crashing all false teachings ,give hope to the poor,  wisdom to the wise ,restore faith in God And the 1000 years is call the sabbath ,of God or rest of God, This is different from Christ reign ,or setup of the kingdom, You mixing all things up ,

Rerra.

When did we ever experience a 1000yr sabath?
Sabath means rest. Christ 1000yr reign will be the sabath.The millennium.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 15 2013,16:14)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 15 2013,20:25) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 15 2013,14:56) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 15 2013,19:22) Wup You are just thinking like the Jews ,they though that the messiah will come and trow the Roman out of Israel ,and the glory of ancient Israel would be restored ,but instead the Massiah came and they did not recognized him ,they stumbled on it s version , Terra. This time the king of the jews will come with power and glory,and all his saints with him. He will crush babylon into dust. He will reign in his kingdom for one thousand years only. no 2 not 3, but one thousand years,in his first dominion. wakeup. Wup Did Christ not came with power Yes he did ,,no man has ever spoken like him,no one as ever made so many miracles ,no man as ever be seen to go to heaven by 500 people , The gospel is crashing all false teachings ,give hope to the poor,  wisdom to the wise ,restore faith in God And the 1000 years is call the sabbath ,of God or rest of God, This is different from Christ reign ,or setup of the kingdom, You mixing all things up , Rerra. When did we ever experience a 1000yr sabath? Sabath means rest. Christ 1000yr reign will be the sabath.The millennium. wakeup.

wup

the Sabbath will start and then the resurrection ,the first one ,we (true believers )do not have resurrection outside of the millennium
one day rest of God ,

the kingdom his in power ,Christ has received all powers from his father before he left the earth ,but all the enemies are still their but without absolute power that power as been taken away wen Christ died on the cross ,

what ever happen sins then it happen in accord with what scriptures have for told ,even by Christ himself,

the glory of Christ his the fulfillment of the words he said while he was still with his disciples ,but it is also the glory of his father because the bigger picture comes from him ,this his why Christ says ;

Jn 17:1 After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed:

“Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you.

[Wakeup]

Terra.

the Sabbath will start and then the resurrection ,the first one ,we (true believers )do not have resurrection outside of the millennium
one day rest of God ,

SO; THE SABATH IS NOW,*AND THEN* THE COMING?
THE MILLENNIUM IS NOW,*AND THEN* THE RESURRECTION? NOT CORRECT.

IT IS CHRIST THAT WILL ESTABLISH THE SABATH,AND WE CAN ENJOY THE SABATH WITH HIM.MAN CAN NOT ESTABLISH PEACE,AS YOU CAN SEE,EVEN AMONGST THE CHRISTIANS.

the kingdom his in power ,Christ has received all powers from his father before he left the earth ,but all the enemies are still their but without absolute power that power as been taken away wen Christ died on the cross.

NOT SO; THE ENEMIES ARE GETTING STRONGER,AND THE ENEMY IS BRINGING IN THE FALLING AWAY.
THE WORLD HAS GONE WORSE, NOT BETTER.
THE CHURCHES ARE FALLING AWAY,NOT COMING CLOSER TO GOD,BUT GOING AWAY FROM GOD.
THIS WORLD HAS BECOME AS SODOM.

CHRIST HAS RECEIVE POWER,TO FEED THEM WHO SEEKS AFTER HIM.BUT HE WILL COME WITH POWER AND GLORY FOR EVERY EYE TO SEE. COMING WITH A GARMENT DIPPED IN BLOOD,TO DESTROY.

what ever happen sins then it happen in accord with what scriptures have for told ,even by Christ himself,

THE SCRIPTURES SAYS THAT THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS
IS THE LOVE OF THE NATIONS,AND WE ARE TOLD TO COME OUT OF HER, OR THE WRATH OF GOD WILL BE ON US. THE CHRISTIANS WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH TRIBULATIONS. THIS CAN NOT BE THE SABATH.

the glory of Christ his the fulfillment of the words he said while he was still with his disciples ,but it is also the glory of his father because the bigger picture comes from him ,this his why Christ says ;

JESUS WAS INDEED GLORIFIED, AT HIS RESURRECTION
AND IS NOW SIITING NEXT TO HIS FATHER WAITING FOR THE ORDER TO COME DOWN WITH REVENGE.

Jn 17:1 After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed:

“Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you.

JESUS IS COMING TO BRING HIS CHURCH IN ORDER,BECAUSE SATAN HAS LED ASTRAY HIS CHURCH.

WHY WOULD HE PUT US THROUGH TRIBULATIONS,IF WE ARE ALREADY IN THE KINGDOM(SABATH) (REST)? WHY?

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2013,02:59)

Terra. the Sabbath will start and then  the resurrection ,the first one ,we (true believers )do not have resurrection outside of the millennium one day rest of God , SO; THE SABATH IS NOW,*AND THEN* THE COMING? THE MILLENNIUM IS NOW,*AND THEN* THE RESURRECTION? NOT CORRECT. IT IS CHRIST THAT WILL ESTABLISH THE SABATH,AND WE CAN ENJOY THE SABATH WITH HIM.MAN CAN NOT ESTABLISH PEACE,AS YOU CAN SEE,EVEN AMONGST THE CHRISTIANS. the kingdom his in power ,Christ has received all powers from his father before he left the earth ,but all the enemies are still their but without absolute power that power as been taken away wen Christ died on the cross. NOT SO; THE ENEMIES ARE GETTING STRONGER,AND THE ENEMY IS BRINGING IN THE FALLING AWAY. THE WORLD HAS GONE WORSE, NOT BETTER. THE CHURCHES ARE FALLING AWAY,NOT COMING CLOSER TO GOD,BUT GOING AWAY FROM GOD. THIS WORLD HAS BECOME AS SODOM. CHRIST HAS RECEIVE POWER,TO FEED THEM WHO SEEKS AFTER HIM.BUT HE WILL COME WITH POWER AND GLORY FOR EVERY EYE TO SEE. COMING WITH A GARMENT DIPPED IN BLOOD,TO DESTROY. what ever happen sins then it happen in accord with what scriptures have for told ,even by Christ himself, THE SCRIPTURES SAYS THAT THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS IS THE LOVE OF THE NATIONS,AND WE ARE TOLD TO COME OUT OF HER, OR THE WRATH OF GOD WILL BE ON US. THE CHRISTIANS WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH TRIBULATIONS. THIS CAN NOT BE THE SABATH. the glory of Christ his the fulfillment of the words he said while he was still with his disciples ,but it is also the glory of his father because the bigger picture comes from him ,this his why Christ says ; JESUS WAS INDEED GLORIFIED, AT HIS RESURRECTION AND IS NOW SIITING NEXT TO HIS FATHER WAITING FOR THE ORDER TO COME DOWN WITH REVENGE. Jn 17:1 After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: “Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. JESUS IS COMING TO BRING HIS CHURCH IN ORDER,BECAUSE SATAN HAS LED ASTRAY HIS CHURCH. WHY WOULD HE PUT US THROUGH TRIBULATIONS,IF WE ARE ALREADY IN THE KINGDOM(SABATH) (REST)? WHY? wakeup.

wup

you have mixed my quotes with your comment ,and it seems confusing to understand what it is you are saying

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 16 2013,09:08)

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2013,02:59) Terra. the Sabbath will start and then  the resurrection ,the first one ,we (true believers )do not have resurrection outside of the millennium one day rest of God , SO; THE SABATH IS NOW,*AND THEN* THE COMING? THE MILLENNIUM IS NOW,*AND THEN* THE RESURRECTION? NOT CORRECT. IT IS CHRIST THAT WILL ESTABLISH THE SABATH,AND WE CAN ENJOY THE SABATH WITH HIM.MAN CAN NOT ESTABLISH PEACE,AS YOU CAN SEE,EVEN AMONGST THE CHRISTIANS. the kingdom his in power ,Christ has received all powers from his father before he left the earth ,but all the enemies are still their but without absolute power that power as been taken away wen Christ died on the cross. NOT SO; THE ENEMIES ARE GETTING STRONGER,AND THE ENEMY IS BRINGING IN THE FALLING AWAY. THE WORLD HAS GONE WORSE, NOT BETTER. THE CHURCHES ARE FALLING AWAY,NOT COMING CLOSER TO GOD,BUT GOING AWAY FROM GOD. THIS WORLD HAS BECOME AS SODOM. CHRIST HAS RECEIVE POWER,TO FEED THEM WHO SEEKS AFTER HIM.BUT HE WILL COME WITH POWER AND GLORY FOR EVERY EYE TO SEE. COMING WITH A GARMENT DIPPED IN BLOOD,TO DESTROY. what ever happen sins then it happen in accord with what scriptures have for told ,even by Christ himself, THE SCRIPTURES SAYS THAT THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS IS THE LOVE OF THE NATIONS,AND WE ARE TOLD TO COME OUT OF HER, OR THE WRATH OF GOD WILL BE ON US. THE CHRISTIANS WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH TRIBULATIONS. THIS CAN NOT BE THE SABATH. the glory of Christ his the fulfillment of the words he said while he was still with his disciples ,but it is also the glory of his father because the bigger picture comes from him ,this his why Christ says ; JESUS WAS INDEED GLORIFIED, AT HIS RESURRECTION AND IS NOW SIITING NEXT TO HIS FATHER WAITING FOR THE ORDER TO COME DOWN WITH REVENGE. Jn 17:1 After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: “Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. JESUS IS COMING TO BRING HIS CHURCH IN ORDER,BECAUSE SATAN HAS LED ASTRAY HIS CHURCH. WHY WOULD HE PUT US THROUGH TRIBULATIONS,IF WE ARE ALREADY IN THE KINGDOM(SABATH) (REST)? WHY? wakeup. wup you have mixed my quotes with your comment ,and it seems confusing to understand what it is you are saying

Terra.

Your quotes are in small letters and my answers are in big letters. I should have typed in quote and unquote.

Can you tell me why we have to go through tribulations
if we are already in his rest?

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2013,05:41)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 16 2013,09:08) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2013,02:59) Terra. the Sabbath will start and then  the resurrection ,the first one ,we (true believers )do not have resurrection outside of the millennium one day rest of God , SO; THE SABATH IS NOW,*AND THEN* THE COMING? THE MILLENNIUM IS NOW,*AND THEN* THE RESURRECTION? NOT CORRECT. IT IS CHRIST THAT WILL ESTABLISH THE SABATH,AND WE CAN ENJOY THE SABATH WITH HIM.MAN CAN NOT ESTABLISH PEACE,AS YOU CAN SEE,EVEN AMONGST THE CHRISTIANS. the kingdom his in power ,Christ has received all powers from his father before he left the earth ,but all the enemies are still their but without absolute power that power as been taken away wen Christ died on the cross. NOT SO; THE ENEMIES ARE GETTING STRONGER,AND THE ENEMY IS BRINGING IN THE FALLING AWAY. THE WORLD HAS GONE WORSE, NOT BETTER. THE CHURCHES ARE FALLING AWAY,NOT COMING CLOSER TO GOD,BUT GOING AWAY FROM GOD. THIS WORLD HAS BECOME AS SODOM. CHRIST HAS RECEIVE POWER,TO FEED THEM WHO SEEKS AFTER HIM.BUT HE WILL COME WITH POWER AND GLORY FOR EVERY EYE TO SEE. COMING WITH A GARMENT DIPPED IN BLOOD,TO DESTROY. what ever happen sins then it happen in accord with what scriptures have for told ,even by Christ himself, THE SCRIPTURES SAYS THAT THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS IS THE LOVE OF THE NATIONS,AND WE ARE TOLD TO COME OUT OF HER, OR THE WRATH OF GOD WILL BE ON US. THE CHRISTIANS WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH TRIBULATIONS. THIS CAN NOT BE THE SABATH. the glory of Christ his the fulfillment of the words he said while he was still with his disciples ,but it is also the glory of his father because the bigger picture comes from him ,this his why Christ says ; JESUS WAS INDEED GLORIFIED, AT HIS RESURRECTION AND IS NOW SIITING NEXT TO HIS FATHER WAITING FOR THE ORDER TO COME DOWN WITH REVENGE. Jn 17:1 After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: “Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. JESUS IS COMING TO BRING HIS CHURCH IN ORDER,BECAUSE SATAN HAS LED ASTRAY HIS CHURCH. WHY WOULD HE PUT US THROUGH TRIBULATIONS,IF WE ARE ALREADY IN THE KINGDOM(SABATH) (REST)? WHY? wakeup. wup you have mixed my quotes with your comment ,and it seems confusing to understand what it is you are saying Terra. Your quotes are in small letters and my answers are in big letters. I should have typed in quote and unquote. Can you tell me why we have to go through tribulations if we are already in his rest? wakeup.

wup

who says we are in God rest

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 16 2013,11:17)

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2013,05:41) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 16 2013,09:08) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2013,02:59) Terra. the Sabbath will start and then  the resurrection ,the first one ,we (true believers )do not have resurrection outside of the millennium one day rest of God , SO; THE SABATH IS NOW,*AND THEN* THE COMING? THE MILLENNIUM IS NOW,*AND THEN* THE RESURRECTION? NOT CORRECT. IT IS CHRIST THAT WILL ESTABLISH THE SABATH,AND WE CAN ENJOY THE SABATH WITH HIM.MAN CAN NOT ESTABLISH PEACE,AS YOU CAN SEE,EVEN AMONGST THE CHRISTIANS. the kingdom his in power ,Christ has received all powers from his father before he left the earth ,but all the enemies are still their but without absolute power that power as been taken away wen Christ died on the cross. NOT SO; THE ENEMIES ARE GETTING STRONGER,AND THE ENEMY IS BRINGING IN THE FALLING AWAY. THE WORLD HAS GONE WORSE, NOT BETTER. THE CHURCHES ARE FALLING AWAY,NOT COMING CLOSER TO GOD,BUT GOING AWAY FROM GOD. THIS WORLD HAS BECOME AS SODOM. CHRIST HAS RECEIVE POWER,TO FEED THEM WHO SEEKS AFTER HIM.BUT HE WILL COME WITH POWER AND GLORY FOR EVERY EYE TO SEE. COMING WITH A GARMENT DIPPED IN BLOOD,TO DESTROY. what ever happen sins then it happen in accord with what scriptures have for told ,even by Christ himself, THE SCRIPTURES SAYS THAT THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS IS THE LOVE OF THE NATIONS,AND WE ARE TOLD TO COME OUT OF HER, OR THE WRATH OF GOD WILL BE ON US. THE CHRISTIANS WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH TRIBULATIONS. THIS CAN NOT BE THE SABATH. the glory of Christ his the fulfillment of the words he said while he was still with his disciples ,but it is also the glory of his father because the bigger picture comes from him ,this his why Christ says ; JESUS WAS INDEED GLORIFIED, AT HIS RESURRECTION AND IS NOW SIITING NEXT TO HIS FATHER WAITING FOR THE ORDER TO COME DOWN WITH REVENGE. Jn 17:1 After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: “Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. JESUS IS COMING TO BRING HIS CHURCH IN ORDER,BECAUSE SATAN HAS LED ASTRAY HIS CHURCH. WHY WOULD HE PUT US THROUGH TRIBULATIONS,IF WE ARE ALREADY IN THE KINGDOM(SABATH) (REST)? WHY? wakeup. wup you have mixed my quotes with your comment ,and it seems confusing to understand what it is you are saying Terra. Your quotes are in small letters and my answers are in big letters. I should have typed in quote and unquote. Can you tell me why we have to go through tribulations if we are already in his rest? wakeup. wup who says we are in God rest

Terra.

Your own words:

Quote:wup

the Sabbath will start and then the resurrection ,the first one ,we (true believers )do not have resurrection outside of the millennium
one day rest of God ,Unquote.

THE SABATH FIRST,AND THEN THE RESURRECTION,THIS MEANS THAT WE ARE NOW IN THE SABATH,BECAUSE CHRIST IS COMING SOON.

I SAID THE COMING,AND THEN THE SABATH.

wakeup.

[Devolution]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 16 2013,11:17)

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2013,05:41) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 16 2013,09:08) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2013,02:59) Terra. the Sabbath will start and then  the resurrection ,the first one ,we (true believers )do not have resurrection outside of the millennium one day rest of God , SO; THE SABATH IS NOW,*AND THEN* THE COMING? THE MILLENNIUM IS NOW,*AND THEN* THE RESURRECTION? NOT CORRECT. IT IS CHRIST THAT WILL ESTABLISH THE SABATH,AND WE CAN ENJOY THE SABATH WITH HIM.MAN CAN NOT ESTABLISH PEACE,AS YOU CAN SEE,EVEN AMONGST THE CHRISTIANS. the kingdom his in power ,Christ has received all powers from his father before he left the earth ,but all the enemies are still their but without absolute power that power as been taken away wen Christ died on the cross. NOT SO; THE ENEMIES ARE GETTING STRONGER,AND THE ENEMY IS BRINGING IN THE FALLING AWAY. THE WORLD HAS GONE WORSE, NOT BETTER. THE CHURCHES ARE FALLING AWAY,NOT COMING CLOSER TO GOD,BUT GOING AWAY FROM GOD. THIS WORLD HAS BECOME AS SODOM. CHRIST HAS RECEIVE POWER,TO FEED THEM WHO SEEKS AFTER HIM.BUT HE WILL COME WITH POWER AND GLORY FOR EVERY EYE TO SEE. COMING WITH A GARMENT DIPPED IN BLOOD,TO DESTROY. what ever happen sins then it happen in accord with what scriptures have for told ,even by Christ himself, THE SCRIPTURES SAYS THAT THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS IS THE LOVE OF THE NATIONS,AND WE ARE TOLD TO COME OUT OF HER, OR THE WRATH OF GOD WILL BE ON US. THE CHRISTIANS WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH TRIBULATIONS. THIS CAN NOT BE THE SABATH. the glory of Christ his the fulfillment of the words he said while he was still with his disciples ,but it is also the glory of his father because the bigger picture comes from him ,this his why Christ says ; JESUS WAS INDEED GLORIFIED, AT HIS RESURRECTION AND IS NOW SIITING NEXT TO HIS FATHER WAITING FOR THE ORDER TO COME DOWN WITH REVENGE. Jn 17:1 After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: “Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. JESUS IS COMING TO BRING HIS CHURCH IN ORDER,BECAUSE SATAN HAS LED ASTRAY HIS CHURCH. WHY WOULD HE PUT US THROUGH TRIBULATIONS,IF WE ARE ALREADY IN THE KINGDOM(SABATH) (REST)? WHY? wakeup. wup you have mixed my quotes with your comment ,and it seems confusing to understand what it is you are saying Terra. Your quotes are in small letters and my answers are in big letters. I should have typed in quote and unquote. Can you tell me why we have to go through tribulations if we are already in his rest? wakeup. wup who says we are in God rest

Terra??

You said we are NOW in the sabbath!!
Gods rest!!

I just read it!!

You are a strange man sometimes Pierre.  

[Devolution]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 15 2013,10:52)

Quote 5.Christ says ;that in his 1000yr kingdom,there will be peace,no pain ,no sorrows, no wars,and knowledge will cover the earth as the sea cover the earth. And the lion will eat straw. Where did Jesus say that?

2besee,

When prophets speak, who is really speaking?
Men or God?

Why do you reject the prophets?
That is exactly what the Jews did…
You are doing the same!!
You are rejecting them too because you think everything in the OT is fulfilled.
God ended that OT covenant 2besee, yes we agree, but He did not end/cancel His prophecies!!
Are prophecies part of the covenant?
“Thou shalt prophesy”!!
Of course not, the prophecies are not doctrine/covenant/law…but PROPHECIES!!

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