Harvest

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 17 2014,13:44)

Hi J42,
You say
“The Holy spirit is the spirit of truth. The more truth one hungers for, the more his spirit is filled.”

But the truth says you MUST be born again

Jn 3
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Loving knowledge should lead to obedience to that revelation

Nick.

That is not what J42 said; but that is what Jesus said.
Learn the basics first,how to use a spoon to feed yourself. Before you jump ahead to the top;
to join adults.

A christian with the HS in him is saved;for he walks in the spirit of Christ.He will be resurrected.Zion will give birth to him.

One must be born again spirit; to enter the kingdom.
Who is born of the spirit is spirit.
Flesh and blood is no more; and yet can appear as flesh
if so desired. God can appear as flesh if he wanted to.

But we are asking too much of you to understand these
things. First learn how to use the spoon well,to feed yourself
with solid food.

wakeup

April 18, 2014 at 3:53 am#378357

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Hi WU,
Are your offerings the fruit of a MATURE CHRISTIAN?

THEN WHY DO YOU ADD YOUR OWN IDEAS TO IT?

Why would you contradict Jesus and say it was just a sham?

Surely these things are a basic bible study nonos.

If you were mature surely you would not do these things and advise others not to as well?

April 18, 2014 at 4:32 am#378387

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 18 2014,14:53)

Hi WU,
Are your offerings the fruit of a MATURE CHRISTIAN?

THEN WHY DO YOU ADD YOUR OWN IDEAS TO IT?

Why would you contradict Jesus and say it was just a sham?

Surely these things are a basic bible study nonos.

If you were mature surely you would not do these things and advise others not to as well?

Nick.

How can you tell a mature christian from an immature one?
Since you are your self immature.
Your knowledge of scriptures is of a babe.
A babe posing as a judge of the mature.

wakeup.

April 18, 2014 at 7:35 am#378407

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Hi WU,
So you say.
But can you keep boasting?

April 18, 2014 at 8:09 am#378413

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 18 2014,04:24)

Hi J42,
No.
Just explain how you became established in Christ.
If you are not yet then nothing you say can be taken seriously as being from him.

Nick

Why don't you go first.

April 18, 2014 at 8:29 am#378418

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Hi J42,
Drawn to the bible and fell in love with it's beauty and harmony 1976.
Shook the dust off my feet from my catholic roots.
Anointed in the Spirit 1980
Born of water in the name of Jesus Christ when realised it too was necessary about 1982
Told I had been given gifts by a word of knowledge from brothers praying with me a couple of years later.

Walking daily in the Spirit since then.

April 18, 2014 at 9:57 pm#378488

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 18 2014,19:29)

Walking daily in the Spirit since then.

Nick.

How do you walk in the spirit?
Why are you still groping in the dark?
You obviously have not been seeking.
Have been slack for many years.

wakeup.

April 19, 2014 at 3:45 am#378507

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Hi WU,
Wipe your glasses.
Unstop your ears

You are not ready to judge

April 19, 2014 at 3:08 pm#378533

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 18 2014,19:29)

Walking daily in the Spirit since then.

Hi Nick

How do you know you were anointed in the spirit?
and what gifts do your mates reckon you have?

To be quite honest, anyone could of said anything like that. Show us who you are. That is a real testimony.

April 19, 2014 at 6:59 pm#378546

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Hi j42,
Your turn.

April 20, 2014 at 9:51 am#378629

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 20 2014,05:59)

Hi j42,
Your turn.

The harvest.

Revelation 14:15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

Revelation 14:16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

Revelation 14:17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

Revelation 14:18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

Revelation 14:19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

Revelation 14:20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.

wakeup.

April 20, 2014 at 4:04 pm#378642

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 20 2014,05:59)

Hi j42,
Your turn.

Nick

I can't really give a testimony until I'm dead.
He that endures to the end will be saved.
My spiritual walk and how it all began would take a lot longer to explain than yours did. I would need a whole day to explain so that I do not leave out a single thing.
I'd have to give a lot of background, how my grandmother was into black magic,
how I was her favourite grandchild,
how I was spared at the age of 5 from the hands of a paedaphile who abducted me,
how I would one day play with ouja board, at the age of 12 mind you,
how I invited evil spirits into my life unknowingly,
how I got my first bible shortly after,
how I read the whole NT by the age of 13,
how I tried to show my grandmother that she was doing wrong,
how I tried to warn everyone,
how I felt rejected,
how I visited a church when 18,
how I had to refuse the trinity teaching,
how I fell,
how I came back,
how I fell,
how I was attacked by a demon,
how I cried out,
how God came to my rescue,
how the devil wanted me back,
and the people he used to get at me,
the demon possessed,
drug addicts, adulterers, drunkards, thieves, you name it, even a lady who tried to kill me (ended up killing someone else) schizophrenics, rapists,
a stalker,
These are very evil times, and be careful who you let into your home, because the devil will use them to cause havoc and even break up a marriage.

You see the best lessons are when we are on the road to disaster,
When we reach so low that there's no where else to look but up.
When we see that our world is crumbling because there was no saviour there, no protection,
And then in our desperate need, we pray, and we trust and all of a sudden, this strong desire comes to feed on the word,
and we keep feeding and feeding, and we realise how wretched we have been, and it's a process, and there's times when you only have to hear someone mention the name of Jesus Christ, in a film, or a song, or in a passage, and this feeling so overwhelming comes every now and then that you just break down in tears, because you remember that old person, that old situation, when you thought there was no hope, and here you stand today, knowing him, and confident in his name, and his truth, and want to discuss him all the time.
and with this truth we make different choices,
and we declare his truth boldly,
and depend on his mercy to keep us strong till the day we die,
and keep us from evil,
to never let him back in,
to learn from our mistakes,
the hardest lessons, are always the best.

That's my short story.

April 21, 2014 at 2:00 am#378712

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Hi j42,
Thanks
So when were you clothed with Christ and when was he born into you?

April 21, 2014 at 3:02 am#378720

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Hi J42,
You must hate satan for so frequently attempting to destroy your life.

You could really get his goat if you become joined to Christ.

Then you could crush him under your feet. Rom 15

April 21, 2014 at 3:06 am#378722

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 21 2014,13:00)

Hi j42,
Thanks
So when were you clothed with Christ and when was he born into you?

Nick

I don't know.
I guess it was when I was 12, the seed was sown,
and it grew. And as I grew older, there were things I had to be put through, lessons I had to learn.
The more sins one has, the greater the forgiveness.
If all was rosy, I would of only seen evil from a distance,
and not truly understood it. I would not of been able to compare it to holiness, or compare anything to peace.
I wouldn't of cried out.
And now I see that God let it happen, but protected me the whole time. I have not given you any details really, so you wouldn't know how God really worked in my life.
But I know, and that's what is important to me.
There's a big change of heart, and it was a process.
I didn't just change overnight.
I had to learn valuable lessons. Fall, get back up, fall, get back up.

When the devil wants you back, he tries all sorts of things to make you fall, and he uses people, just so they can oppress you, even those really close to you, and he never gives up, but we can give up the world, and not yoke with them anymore, and slowly, the those old situations melt away,
and there's more time now to devote to study, less distractions.

And God picked only me out of my big family to serve him.
and one cousin from the other side.
and one uncle who was married to my auntie.
And we all have each other.
Out of a massive family, there's not many of us.

April 21, 2014 at 3:08 am#378723

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Hi J42,
You do need to know.
There are three witnesses you need.
If God has protected you it is for a purpose, that you be saved.
That protection was not your salvation but you must repent and be reborn of water and the Spirit.

God does not have favourites who can bypass the command.

Neither does he want satan glorified but destroyed and He wants you on the team.

I too am one of 13 all the rest remain catholic

April 21, 2014 at 3:14 am#378724

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Hi J42,
Repent and be baptised each one of you FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF YOUR SINS.
Until we obey sin clings to us and our clothing is filthy
Like Joshua in Zech 3 we need clean clothes.

Then we can freely approach the throne of grace.

April 21, 2014 at 5:25 am#378732

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 21 2014,14:14)

Hi J42,
Repent and be baptised each one of you FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF YOUR SINS.
Until we obey sin clings to us and our clothing is filthy
Like Joshua in Zech 3 we need clean clothes.

Then we can freely approach the throne of grace.

Nick

What makes you think I have not repented?
Repentance is a daily sacrifice.
We don't just repent once and everything is perfect,
every day we are challenged, and so many things are thrown at us,
every day we say no to sin, we are repenting.

The beauty is that once you have overcome one thing, it becomes a strength, and then another, and then another,
and so it goes. This happens through-out our whole life.
We have to be on guard at all times, because there always will be some weakness. Never be complacent and never take salvation for granted.

I am more harder on myself than what anyone could possibly be to me. I want to be accepted into the kingdom, and Christ is very strict who he lets in. All get a chance, but not all will go in.
We cannot depend on christians in the world to get us there.
The christian land is corrupted, and our walk is with Christ, every day, in everything we say and do.
This is a very close and personal relationship.

April 21, 2014 at 5:53 am#378734