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Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 22 2009,09:06) Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 22 2009,06:50) TT, Why not join Satanic organizations so that way by your fellowship with them you can preach to them and give them tracts? Hang out at homosexual nightclubs, would you do that?
bd,
So you have a problem with giving light to those who are in darkness?thinker
I simply asked you would you join a Satanic organization to teach them?The Fact is Jesus doesn't want everyone to be healed or converted for the wheat is grown with the chaff so those of you who take halloween lightly it is you that have been taught and if you remain blind it is in alignment with scripture that you should remain in darkness:
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Matthew 13:29-31Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
Matthew 3:11-13That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.
Mark 4:11-13For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
Matthew 13:14-16For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
Acts 28:26-28Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.
Isaiah 6:9-11Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 22 2009,09:45) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 21 2009,13:41) Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 20 2009,21:25) Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 21 2009,13:13) Quote (Gene @ Oct. 21 2009,13:07) Thinker……..So all things being “PURE” means what ever you think is pure is pure right? Some how i don't think you are understanding that right thinker. Then word PURE can signify a lot of things, Like WATER that is without any impurities in it. It is Clear, and i think that is what the text is referring to , not just thinking you can make anything you wan pure, but thinking it. IMO gene
Thw works of the flesh are not right. I have clarified this before. This thread is about giving gospel tracts with a piece of candy in Christ's name on halloween. Only the defiled mind would have a problem with it.thinker
i disagree, thinkerto justify your practice, this must be done every day for the Lord, not just at this time.
personally, living and speaking his word everyday, is much more profitable then having to buy candy and CD's everyday.
PrincessOk then we should never give out tracts at all unless we do it everyday, right?
Unless you think there is something unholy about “Oct 31st” which is a day that the Lord has made!
We do not see the day as a different day, but somehow you guys do!
WJ
WJ,I do not disagree with you regarding everyday is a day to rejoice in, amen.
I just do not understand, why you take a tradition/practice of man and unify it. This is the same as Constatine, no?
Could your church not pick another day, season, why do you choose what man has dictated?
honestly, if you would prefer feedback from one so testimony can be given, the answer you provide would be your best witnessing tool, correct?
this giving things away for the name of the Lord, has always been two fold for me, I do know that the word FREE, is appealing to most, I understand it is a lure to bring ones in, is the best PR tool an organization can have (excluding, soup kitchens, shelters ect. ) with some good coming out of it, but then again, at times is more to make the person feel they are doing something for the Lord under false pretenses.
just my opinion, nothing personal.
The Sabbath is a sign between God and Israel and not to us.
Paul tells us that one gives God thanks one on one day and another does on every day alike.
Exodus 31:16-17
IreneQuote (georg @ Oct. 23 2009,00:09) Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 22 2009,09:45) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 21 2009,13:41) Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 20 2009,21:25) Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 21 2009,13:13) Quote (Gene @ Oct. 21 2009,13:07) Thinker……..So all things being “PURE” means what ever you think is pure is pure right? Some how i don't think you are understanding that right thinker. Then word PURE can signify a lot of things, Like WATER that is without any impurities in it. It is Clear, and i think that is what the text is referring to , not just thinking you can make anything you wan pure, but thinking it. IMO gene
Thw works of the flesh are not right. I have clarified this before. This thread is about giving gospel tracts with a piece of candy in Christ's name on halloween. Only the defiled mind would have a problem with it.thinker
i disagree, thinkerto justify your practice, this must be done every day for the Lord, not just at this time.
personally, living and speaking his word everyday, is much more profitable then having to buy candy and CD's everyday.
PrincessOk then we should never give out tracts at all unless we do it everyday, right?
Unless you think there is something unholy about “Oct 31st” which is a day that the Lord has made!
We do not see the day as a different day, but somehow you guys do!
WJ
WJ,I do not disagree with you regarding everyday is a day to rejoice in, amen.
I just do not understand, why you take a tradition/practice of man and unify it. This is the same as Constatine, no?
Could your church not pick another day, season, why do you choose what man has dictated?
honestly, if you would prefer feedback from one so testimony can be given, the answer you provide would be your best witnessing tool, correct?
this giving things away for the name of the Lord, has always been two fold for me, I do know that the word FREE, is appealing to most, I understand it is a lure to bring ones in, is the best PR tool an organization can have (excluding, soup kitchens, shelters ect. ) with some good coming out of it, but then again, at times is more to make the person feel they are doing something for the Lord under false pretenses.
just my opinion, nothing personal.
The Sabbath is a sign between God and Israel and not to us.
Paul tells us that one gives God thanks one on one day and another does on every day alike.
Exodus 31:16-17
Irene
Your funny.Hi CON,
Not so funny.
You are not a Jew and are not under the old covenant.
Folk seem to think it is a fallback option for gentiles but it is not written for them.Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 23 2009,19:51) Quote (georg @ Oct. 23 2009,00:09) Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 22 2009,09:45) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 21 2009,13:41) Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 20 2009,21:25) Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 21 2009,13:13) Quote (Gene @ Oct. 21 2009,13:07) Thinker……..So all things being “PURE” means what ever you think is pure is pure right? Some how i don't think you are understanding that right thinker. Then word PURE can signify a lot of things, Like WATER that is without any impurities in it. It is Clear, and i think that is what the text is referring to , not just thinking you can make anything you wan pure, but thinking it. IMO gene
Thw works of the flesh are not right. I have clarified this before. This thread is about giving gospel tracts with a piece of candy in Christ's name on halloween. Only the defiled mind would have a problem with it.thinker
i disagree, thinkerto justify your practice, this must be done every day for the Lord, not just at this time.
personally, living and speaking his word everyday, is much more profitable then having to buy candy and CD's everyday.
PrincessOk then we should never give out tracts at all unless we do it everyday, right?
Unless you think there is something unholy about “Oct 31st” which is a day that the Lord has made!
We do not see the day as a different day, but somehow you guys do!
WJ
WJ,I do not disagree with you regarding everyday is a day to rejoice in, amen.
I just do not understand, why you take a tradition/practice of man and unify it. This is the same as Constatine, no?
Could your church not pick another day, season, why do you choose what man has dictated?
honestly, if you would prefer feedback from one so testimony can be given, the answer you provide would be your best witnessing tool, correct?
this giving things away for the name of the Lord, has always been two fold for me, I do know that the word FREE, is appealing to most, I understand it is a lure to bring ones in, is the best PR tool an organization can have (excluding, soup kitchens, shelters ect. ) with some good coming out of it, but then again, at times is more to make the person feel they are doing something for the Lord under false pretenses.
just my opinion, nothing personal.
The Sabbath is a sign between God and Israel and not to us.
Paul tells us that one gives God thanks one on one day and another does on every day alike.
Exodus 31:16-17
Irene
Your funny.
There is nothing funny about the truth. But some just can't see it, can they? God has blinded their eyes.
IreneQuote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 23 2009,19:55) Hi CON,
Not so funny.
You are not a Jew and are not under the old covenant.
Folk seem to think it is a fallback option for gentiles but it is not written for them.
But the Sabbath came before the “Old Covenant” it was from the beginning just like Jesus said about Marriage and yet Christians today get divorced for reasons other than sexual immorality as Jesus said was the only reason for it to occur so what gives?When it comes to marriage everyone seems to choose Moses over Jesus every time.
Hi BD,
Adam and Eve were married?The sons of the resurrection know they will be rather like to the angels.
Yet those who have become one and remain so keep that unity eternally.[1Cor7]. A Mystery.
Those with eyes on the future and not so much the present realize earthly attractions fade towards their future irrelevance.Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 21 2009,17:45) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 21 2009,13:41) Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 20 2009,21:25) Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 21 2009,13:13) Gene,Oct. wrote:Thinker……..So all things being “PURE” means what ever you think is pure is pure right? Some how i don't think you are understanding that right thinker. Then word PURE can signify a lot of things, Like WATER that is without any impurities in it. It is Clear, and i think that is what the text is referring to , not just thinking you can make anything you wan pure, but thinking it. IMO
gene
Thw works of the flesh are not right. I have clarified this before. This thread is about giving gospel tracts with a piece of candy in Christ's name on halloween. Only the defiled mind would have a problem with it.thinker
i disagree, thinkerto justify your practice, this must be done every day for the Lord, not just at this time.
personally, living and speaking his word everyday, is much more profitable then having to buy candy and CD's everyday.
PrincessOk then we should never give out tracts at all unless we do it everyday, right?
Unless you think there is something unholy about “Oct 31st” which is a day that the Lord has made!
We do not see the day as a different day, but somehow you guys do!
WJ
Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 21 2009,17:45) WJ, I do not disagree with you regarding everyday is a day to rejoice in, amen.
Good! This is the day that the Lord has made, and I will rejoice and be glad in it! Oct 31st is another of Gods days!Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 21 2009,17:45) I just do not understand, why you take a tradition/practice of man and unify it. This is the same as Constatine, no?
No. Do you ever eat pumpkin pie on Oct 31st? Would you not eat it because the world eats it on Oct 31st? It is your right to eat it or not to eat it, and no man should judge you either way!I have already explained that we do those things on other days also. Why not use a day the world uses for evil to do good. Should we not do good on any day?
Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 21 2009,17:45) Could your church not pick another day, season, why do you choose what man has dictated?
My Church does do this on other days!But I do not see it as man dictated anything. The day (Oct 31st) is the Lords and I am his free servant and can in good conscience use the day for my Fathers buisness. Does the world own the day or giving candy to kids? Is the world dictating to me to give a Bible tract?
Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 21 2009,17:45) honestly, if you would prefer feedback from one so testimony can be given, the answer you provide would be your best witnessing tool, correct?
Huh? How about the souls that are saved when we evangelize on that day? That is a testimony isn't it?Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 21 2009,17:45) this giving things away for the name of the Lord, has always been two fold for me, I do know that the word FREE, is appealing to most, I understand it is a lure to bring ones in, is the best PR tool an organization can have (excluding, soup kitchens, shelters ect. ) with some good coming out of it, but then again, at times is more to make the person feel they are doing something for the Lord under false pretenses. just my opinion, nothing personal. P
Yes it is your opinion, thanks for listening. Each man shall give account of what he has done in the body whether it be good or bad.For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad. 2 Cor 5:10
And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him. Col 3:17
Blessings WJ
truthfully, WJ, my son enjoys pumpkin pie, we have it throughout the year.
I tend to feel the same about sabbath as you do about halloween, so we can leave it at that and be done with it.
how do you know who is saved and who is not WJ, only the Lord knows what is in a man's heart, we are only here to speak/live for him, for him to increase so we may decrease.
we all live our theology, WJ. your is just not as mine.
do tend to have one question for you though, if you do not mind, i know you must be busy getting ready for halloween, do you think there is a difference between right ruling and judgement?
Quote Princess Ok then we should never give out tracts at all unless we do it everyday, right?
Unless you think there is something unholy about “Oct 31st” which is a day that the Lord has made!
We do not see the day as a different day, but somehow you guys do!
–WJ
WHY DO YOU KEEP SAYING THIS? Obviously, based on reality, logic, common sense, definitions, did I mention “reality”….obviously, you do see Oct 31 as a different day, for you do “different” things on that day, and every year you do those same “different” things on that special day, for you.
Quote (david @ Oct. 23 2009,21:47) Quote Princess Ok then we should never give out tracts at all unless we do it everyday, right?
Unless you think there is something unholy about “Oct 31st” which is a day that the Lord has made!
We do not see the day as a different day, but somehow you guys do!
–WJ
WHY DO YOU KEEP SAYING THIS? Obviously, based on reality, logic, common sense, definitions, did I mention “reality”….obviously, you do see Oct 31 as a different day, for you do “different” things on that day, and every year you do those same “different” things on that special day, for you.
David,They just don't get it.
Can anyone on this site honestly see Jesus sitting with a group of people arguing about feast days, sabbath days, rituals unto God, etc.! I hope not. The expression of love is live and let live. Honor God by loving and accepting other people in whatever they do. Religious moralism and self-righteous bigots make me want to puke!! God poured out his love and acceptance freely on each of us and we turn around and make up bad things or ungodly things to squawk and pick at one another about. Religion has duped mankind for thousands of years. Man made ideas to please God. If Jesus had made a whole set of rules to follow there would probably be more converts than now. Freely you have received the love of God, freely give it to Gods children, all of them(no matter what color,race, or sexual preference) In that you do good to the least one, you do unto God. Please enlighten-up! Bless all, TK
Quote (Tim Kraft @ Oct. 24 2009,03:17) Can anyone on this site honestly see Jesus sitting with a group of people arguing about feast days, sabbath days, rituals unto God, etc.! I hope not. The expression of love is live and let live. Honor God by loving and accepting other people in whatever they do. Religious moralism and self-righteous bigots make me want to puke!! God poured out his love and acceptance freely on each of us and we turn around and make up bad things or ungodly things to squawk and pick at one another about. Religion has duped mankind for thousands of years. Man made ideas to please God. If Jesus had made a whole set of rules to follow there would probably be more converts than now. Freely you have received the love of God, freely give it to Gods children, all of them(no matter what color,race, or sexual preference) In that you do good to the least one, you do unto God. Please enlighten-up! Bless all, TK Quote Can anyone on this site honestly see Jesus sitting with a group of people arguing about feast days, sabbath days, rituals unto God, etc.! Most of his ministry, he dealt with it. Even his Apostles questioned many of those things, guess thats why he was a lamp unto darkness.
Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 24 2009,03:20) Quote (Tim Kraft @ Oct. 24 2009,03:17) Can anyone on this site honestly see Jesus sitting with a group of people arguing about feast days, sabbath days, rituals unto God, etc.! I hope not. The expression of love is live and let live. Honor God by loving and accepting other people in whatever they do. Religious moralism and self-righteous bigots make me want to puke!! God poured out his love and acceptance freely on each of us and we turn around and make up bad things or ungodly things to squawk and pick at one another about. Religion has duped mankind for thousands of years. Man made ideas to please God. If Jesus had made a whole set of rules to follow there would probably be more converts than now. Freely you have received the love of God, freely give it to Gods children, all of them(no matter what color,race, or sexual preference) In that you do good to the least one, you do unto God. Please enlighten-up! Bless all, TK Quote Can anyone on this site honestly see Jesus sitting with a group of people arguing about feast days, sabbath days, rituals unto God, etc.! Most of his ministry, he dealt with it. Even his Apostles questioned many of those things, guess thats why he was a lamp unto darkness.
Quote The expression of love is live and let live. Honor God by loving and accepting other people in whatever they do. You do not train up your own children in the way they should go? You let them espouse a live and let live attitude?
When God tells you to train up your child what do you think he meant?
Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it. Proverbs 22:6
For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of the LORD, Genesis 18:9
And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. Deuteronomy 6:7
And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. Ephesians 6:4
And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 2Tim 3:15
How do train up a child? Strong Character with good Moral Standards!
Good Moral Teachings:
but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I [am] the LORD. Lev 19:18
And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. Dei 6:5
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. Matt 22:37
And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. Luke 10:27
Quote (david @ Oct. 24 2009,00:47) Quote Princess Ok then we should never give out tracts at all unless we do it everyday, right?
Unless you think there is something unholy about “Oct 31st” which is a day that the Lord has made!
We do not see the day as a different day, but somehow you guys do!
–WJ
WHY DO YOU KEEP SAYING THIS? Obviously, based on reality, logic, common sense, definitions, did I mention “reality”….obviously, you do see Oct 31 as a different day, for you do “different” things on that day, and every year you do those same “different” things on that special day, for you.
DavidHow do you know “What I see” or what my feelings are? How do you know if my conscience is clean before God or not?
You are not my judge and neither are you God.
I say once again, Oct 31st is another opportunity to witness for Jesus just like any other day that the world may celebrate for evil.
Why do you continue to accuse me of sin? Why do you continue to pass judgment on me?
Could it be that you are an arrogant and self righteous person seeking to defile the clean conscience of another?
WJ
Quote (david @ Oct. 24 2009,00:43) Quote Why do you have a problem with us treating it like any other day? –WJ
YOU DON'T!
YOU DON'T!
YOU LIE!YOU LIE!
Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 23 2009,21:06) truthfully, WJ, my son enjoys pumpkin pie, we have it throughout the year.
Good, we give tracts and candy to kids through out the year!Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 23 2009,21:06) I tend to feel the same about sabbath as you do about halloween, so we can leave it at that and be done with it.
Wrong, I treat Oct 31st as another day the Lord has made, you treat the Sabbath as a special day!That is your right. So run along now and stop judging others motives and conscience!
”WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE SOMEONE ELSE'S SERVANT? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. “One man considers one day more sacred than another; “another man considers every day alike”. EACH ONE SHOULD BE “FULLY CONVINCED IN HIS OWN MIND. he who regards one day as special, does so to the lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. Rom 14:4-6
Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 23 2009,21:06)
how do you know who is saved and who is not WJ, only the Lord knows what is in a man's heart, we are only here to speak/live for him, for him to increase so we may decrease.
Isn't this what we have been trying to say? Then why are you and David and Con trying to cast a shadow of doubt on our conscience?Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 23 2009,21:06) we all live our theology, WJ. your is just not as mine.
Thank you Jesus!Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 23 2009,21:06) do tend to have one question for you though, if you do not mind, i know you must be busy getting ready for halloween
Thanks for the jab, but I am used to it!Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 23 2009,21:06) do you think there is a difference between right ruling and judgement?
Your question makes no sense, maybe you should reword it!WJ
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