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Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 14 2009,17:26) Quote (seekingtruth @ Oct. 14 2009,20:20) Quote For humankind, the diet after the fall remained vegetarian.
Really… “Take the ram for the ordination and cook the meat in a sacred place. 32 At the entrance to the Tent of Meeting, Aaron and his sons are to eat the meat of the ram and the bread that is in the basket.This is what I meant when I stated that some “add” to scripture by claiming “God's rule” which in fact is “their rule”.
My opinion – Wm
Hi SeekingGood point!
WJ
Ram is considered clean under Levitical law, in fact all temple offerings are considered clean, Priests never sacrificed unclean animals.Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 14 2009,18:27) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 14 2009,17:26) Quote (seekingtruth @ Oct. 14 2009,20:20) Quote For humankind, the diet after the fall remained vegetarian.
Really… “Take the ram for the ordination and cook the meat in a sacred place. 32 At the entrance to the Tent of Meeting, Aaron and his sons are to eat the meat of the ram and the bread that is in the basket.This is what I meant when I stated that some “add” to scripture by claiming “God's rule” which in fact is “their rule”.
My opinion – Wm
Hi SeekingGood point!
WJ
Ram is considered clean under Levitical law, in fact all temple offerings are considered clean, Priests never sacrificed unclean animals.
What does Temple food have to do with Trick or Treat candy?I was responding to your post claiming all mankind was vegetarian.
as to what we can eat:
19Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, [but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall.Quote (seekingtruth @ Oct. 14 2009,18:44) I was responding to your post claiming all mankind was vegetarian. as to what we can eat:
19Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, [but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall.
Book and Chapter, and what version is that?Hi WJ:
You say:
Quote We can walk in divine health by faith! Faith without works is dead. If we don't obey God's principles for living that He teaches us through His Word, it won't do us a bit of good.
I still struggle with my eating habits, and every time a gain a couple of pounds, my blood pressure goes up, and high blood pressure is known as “the silent killer”.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 14 2009,18:50) Quote (seekingtruth @ Oct. 14 2009,18:44) I was responding to your post claiming all mankind was vegetarian. as to what we can eat:
19Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, [but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall.
Book and Chapter, and what version is that?seekingtruth,Oct. wrote:I was responding to your post claiming all mankind was vegetarian.
Mankind was before the flood.
Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 15 2009,09:57) Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 15 2009,09:39) Quote (Is 1:18 @ Oct. 15 2009,07:18) Ephesians 5:1-3
3But immorality or any impurity or greed must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints;
Oh, come off it Paul! Do you realize that what you are saying would ban you from life as we know it! Everything is “impure”. Is there any one thing, or any one person who is not?We are to be holy as he is holy……sure but we also have to live here on earth, and in these human bodies who register only human nature.
What you're proposing – do you really think it's possible? And if so, celebrating Halloween (on whatever level) would be the very least of anyone's concerns, I dare say!
Hey, glad you're back!
Love,
Mandy
Mandy,
You're a hoot Sis. You chew someone out and then say, “Hey, glad you're back.”
thinker
Old friends can do that!Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 15 2009,13:50) Quote (seekingtruth @ Oct. 14 2009,18:44) I was responding to your post claiming all mankind was vegetarian. as to what we can eat:
19Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, [but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall.
Book and Chapter, and what version is that?
Hi:I believe that the Apostle Paul is referring to foods that have been offered to idols when he says “all foods are clean”.
But God has said that some things were not to be considered as food.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (942767 @ Oct. 14 2009,18:58) Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 15 2009,13:50) Quote (seekingtruth @ Oct. 14 2009,18:44) I was responding to your post claiming all mankind was vegetarian. as to what we can eat:
19Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, [but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall.
Book and Chapter, and what version is that?
Hi:I believe that the Apostle Paul is referring to foods that have been offered to idols when he says “all foods are clean”.
But God has said that some things were not to be considered as food.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Ya but what book, chapter, and version is he referring too?Constitutionalist – your name suits you.
Quote Why not? Its just to have fun. Have a little dope, its a little fun, watch a little porno, its a little fun, have a little drink, its to have fun, tell a little lie, its a little fun. “What ever floats your boat” pretty revealing don't you think.
Spare me your self-righteous mumbo-jumbo, bro. Keep it real. I'm not talking about dropping acid here, I'm talking about having some people over for some food, games, and a little dress-up.Quote Hmmn?, Go out and preach the attractive gospel? The attractive gospels saves, the attractive gospel shows the righteous way with no boring, unattractive, burdening rules, regulations, or judgements.
3.Titus 2:10
and not to steal from them, but to show that they can be fully trusted, so that in every way they will make the teaching about God our Savior attractive.You obviously have no idea what I'm talking about. Have you ever shared Jesus on the streets of a big city? How far do you think you would go in reaching those souls by telling them all the rules?
Quote Why aren't you an athiest?
I've considered it. Have you? I think most people must consider is God real?
But I guess you meant that comment to be a dig instead of a true question.Quote Ya, but are you alright with him? The Old Testament has 929 chapters, 260 chapters in the New Testament, written over a 1500 year span (from 1400 B.C to A.D. 100), over 40 generations, over 40 authors from many walks of life (i.e. – kings, peasants, philosophers, fishermen, poets, statesmen, scholars), in different places (i.e. – wilderness, dungeon, palaces), at different times (i.e. – war, peace), in different moods (i.e. – heights of joy, depths of despair), on three continents (Asia, Africa, and Europe), in three languages (Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek) and all that means is “love God and love one another”.
Yes. Listen to Jesus.Quote So you like only the good parts?
Well, they're the ones I read the most!
Who wants to read about burning children and rape?Dude, relax, okay? Salvation isn't that difficult. It's a gift, remember?
Love,
MandyConstitutionalist,
wonderful posts you present, i have not heard these teachings for some time now, thought they had already been revealed to the truth seekers.
it is a blessings to read your posts, usually, i speed read over the long post, yours is well worth the time, nicely written easy on the eyes and yes very fruitful. thank you.
when the SUNday teaching teach of Noah they seem to 'forget' that seven pairs of clean animals were taken, the others were only taken by pairs. Wonder why? never did understand that.
And Jehovah saith to Noah, `Come in, thou and all thy house, unto the ark, for thee I have seen righteous before Me in this generation;
of all the clean beasts thou dost take to thee seven pairs, a male and its female; and of the beasts which are not clean two, a male and its female;
also, of fowl of the heavens seven pairs, a male and a female, to keep alive seed on the face of all the earth;kol tuv to you and yours
Const.,
Please list your sources. I see some lengthly posts here from you but no source. I always like to check the sites where people get their teachings from. Also, it makes it look like your trying to take credit, even if that isn't your intent. I've done it too, so no big deal. But still…if you want to follow all the rules…..
Thanks,
MandyQuote (princess of the king @ Oct. 15 2009,14:17) it is a blessings to read your posts, usually, i speed read over the long post, yours is well worth the time, nicely written easy on the eyes and yes very fruitful. thank you.
He needs to list his sources on the longer posts. He hasn't written the majority of what he's shared here. Just say'in.Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 14 2009,19:03) Quote (942767 @ Oct. 14 2009,18:58) Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 15 2009,13:50) Quote (seekingtruth @ Oct. 14 2009,18:44) I was responding to your post claiming all mankind was vegetarian. as to what we can eat:
19Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, [but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall.
Book and Chapter, and what version is that?
Hi:I believe that the Apostle Paul is referring to foods that have been offered to idols when he says “all foods are clean”.
But God has said that some things were not to be considered as food.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Ya but what book, chapter, and version is he referring too?
But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and [from] fornication, and [from] things strangled, and [from] blood. Act 15:20 <- These are Noachide laws.We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell [you] the same things by mouth. For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well. So when they were dismissed, they came to Antioch: and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the epistle: [Which] when they had read, they rejoiced for the consolation. And Judas and Silas, being prophets also themselves, exhorted the brethren with many words, and confirmed [them]. Act 15:27-32 <- These are Noachide laws.
As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written [and] concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from [things] offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication. Act 21:25 <- These are Noachide laws.
As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol [is] nothing in the world, and that [there is] none other God but one. For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him. Howbeit [there is] not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat [it] as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled. But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse. But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak. For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols; And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died? But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ. Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend. 1Corinthians 8:4-13 <- The Gentils were commanded not to eat meat from idols (see above). While meat unto idols is only meat, (Only unblemished clean meats are offerings) and safe to eat, the gentiles were still commanded not to partake in it, and if you eat that same meat in front of them then you are responsible for shaking their faith.
Behold Israel after the flesh: are not they which eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar? What say I then? that the idol is any thing, or that which is offered in sacrifice to idols is any thing? But I [say], that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils. 1Corinthians 10:18-21 <- A true Halloween special.
If any of them that believe not bid you [to a feast], and ye be disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no question for conscience sake. But if any man say unto you, This is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth [is] the Lord's, and the fulness thereof: Conscience, I say, not thine own, but of the other: for why is my liberty judged of another [man's] conscience? For if I by grace be a partaker, why am I evil spoken of for that for which I give thanks? Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God. Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God: Even as I please all [men] in all [things], not seeking mine own profit, but the [profit] of many, that they may be saved. 1Corinthians 10:27-33
But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication. Revelation 2:14
Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. Revelation 2:20
thethinker,Oct. wrote:[/quote]
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Hey Mandy,
I am relieved you were not offended.Jack
is your soul content now?
Quote
The politically correct policewoman got me worried.it was not me that had you worried, should have held on to the spirit that was speaking to you, not anyone else, just my take on the matter.
and by the by, completed a form on what profession would best suite me, lo and behold, a police officer, not too far of there Jack; even so, five foot tall is not a qualification they are looking for.
and when does the Word of Yah have anything to do with politics?
Quote (seekingtruth @ Oct. 14 2009,19:14) Romans 14:19-21 (New International Version) sorry I should always post it
No worry, I forget alot too.
Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 14 2009,19:34) thethinker,Oct. wrote:[/quote]
Quote
Hey Mandy,
I am relieved you were not offended.Jack
is your soul content now?
Quote
The politically correct policewoman got me worried.it was not me that had you worried, should have held on to the spirit that was speaking to you, not anyone else, just my take on the matter.
and by the by, completed a form on what profession would best suite me, lo and behold, a police officer, not too far of there Jack; even so, five foot tall is not a qualification they are looking for.
and when does the Word of Yah have anything to do with politics?
HaHa, I was wondering who the politically correct policewomen was.
Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 15 2009,14:20) Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 15 2009,14:17) it is a blessings to read your posts, usually, i speed read over the long post, yours is well worth the time, nicely written easy on the eyes and yes very fruitful. thank you.
He needs to list his sources on the longer posts. He hasn't written the majority of what he's shared here. Just say'in.
yes, Constitutionalist do list your sources, they are very political about the issue, as you can see.………even though most of your quotes have many scriptures in them.
Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 14 2009,19:17) Constitutionalist, wonderful posts you present, i have not heard these teachings for some time now, thought they had already been revealed to the truth seekers.
it is a blessings to read your posts, usually, i speed read over the long post, yours is well worth the time, nicely written easy on the eyes and yes very fruitful. thank you.
when the SUNday teaching teach of Noah they seem to 'forget' that seven pairs of clean animals were taken, the others were only taken by pairs. Wonder why? never did understand that.
And Jehovah saith to Noah, `Come in, thou and all thy house, unto the ark, for thee I have seen righteous before Me in this generation;
of all the clean beasts thou dost take to thee seven pairs, a male and its female; and of the beasts which are not clean two, a male and its female;
also, of fowl of the heavens seven pairs, a male and a female, to keep alive seed on the face of all the earth;kol tuv to you and yours
Barukh attah Adonai eloheinu melekh ha-olam, asher natan lanu Mashiach Yeshua ve-hadiberot shel ha-berit chadashah. Barukh attah Adonai, notein ha-berit ha-chadashah. Barukh attah Adonai eloheinu melekh ha-olam, asher natan lanu ha-devar ha’emet ve-chayei olam nata betokheinu. Barukh attah Adonai, notein ha-berit ha-chadashah.barux hashem!
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