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  • #357527
    terraricca
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    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 10 2013,07:24)
    No forgetting this one thing;and that is that no one can come to God unless God draws him.
    For God knows who are his,and he will draw them to him.
    And Jesus will do the feeding.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    this is what Christ did when he was on earth ,

    and you did not answer my question “about drawn”

    #357558
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 13 2013,12:21)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 10 2013,07:24)
    No forgetting this one thing;and that is that no one can come to God unless God draws him.
    For God knows who are his,and he will draw them to him.
    And Jesus will do the feeding.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    this is what Christ did when he was on earth ,

    and you did not answer my question “about drawn”


    Terra.

    John 6:44 *No man* can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me *draw him*: and I will raise him up at the last day.

    wakeup.

    #357559
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,11:18)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 13 2013,12:21)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 10 2013,07:24)
    No forgetting this one thing;and that is that no one can come to God unless God draws him.
    For God knows who are his,and he will draw them to him.
    And Jesus will do the feeding.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    this is what Christ did when he was on earth ,

    and you did not answer my question “about drawn”


    Terra.

    John 6:44   *No man* can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me *draw him*: and I will raise him up at the last day.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    his your view of understanding in accord with all the scriptures and is this the way that CHRIST AND HIS APOSTLES TRACH THE WORD OF GOD ??????????????

    SHOW ME A FEW SCRIPTURES WERE THIS WAS WELL SET IN THEIR MIND THAT IT IS “GOD THAT MAKE THE DRAW FOR ALL BELIEVERS AND NOT THE PERSON IT SELF,

    #357560
    terraricca
    Participant

    WAKEUP

    DRAW = LEAD AS WELL THIS YES ,FOR ANYONE THAT SEARCH HIM ,THIS IS THE TRUTH

    #357563
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 13 2013,16:30)
    WAKEUP

    DRAW = LEAD AS WELL THIS YES ,FOR ANYONE THAT SEARCH HIM ,THIS IS THE TRUTH


    Terra.

    Anyone that start seeking the scriptures is because God draws him. Why would one seek the scriptures if he is not interested in the spiritual?
    Why would one open the bible if he is not interested
    in God?

    wakeup.

    #357573
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,13:04)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 13 2013,16:30)
    WAKEUP

    DRAW = LEAD AS WELL THIS YES ,FOR ANYONE THAT SEARCH HIM ,THIS IS THE TRUTH


    Terra.

    Anyone that start seeking the scriptures is because God  draws him. Why would one seek the scriptures if he is not interested in the spiritual?
    Why would one open the bible if he is not interested
    in God?

    wakeup.


    wakeup

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    Anyone that start seeking the scriptures is because God  draws him. Why would one seek the scriptures if he is not interested in the spiritual?
    Why would one open the bible if he is not interested
    in God?

    if your knowledge you show is true ;YOU WILL FIND MANY SCRIPTURES TO SUPPORT IT ;

    IF YOU DO NOT FIND SUPPORT ;THEN IT IS ANOTHER RELIGION LIE ;A DECEIT OF THE DEVIL ;

    SO PLEASE SHOW ;SCRIPTURES ;NOT OPINIONS ;THIS IS TRUTH ,GODLY TRUTH I AM AFTER ,NOTHING ELSE ;

    LOVE YOU BROTHER ,

    #357575
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 13 2013,23:10)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,13:04)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 13 2013,16:30)
    WAKEUP

    DRAW = LEAD AS WELL THIS YES ,FOR ANYONE THAT SEARCH HIM ,THIS IS THE TRUTH


    Terra.

    Anyone that start seeking the scriptures is because God  draws him. Why would one seek the scriptures if he is not interested in the spiritual?
    Why would one open the bible if he is not interested
    in God?

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    Quote
    Anyone that start seeking the scriptures is because God  draws him. Why would one seek the scriptures if he is not interested in the spiritual?
    Why would one open the bible if he is not interested
    in God?

    if your knowledge you show is true ;YOU WILL FIND MANY SCRIPTURES TO SUPPORT IT ;

    IF YOU DO NOT FIND SUPPORT ;THEN IT IS ANOTHER RELIGION LIE ;A DECEIT OF THE DEVIL ;

    SO PLEASE SHOW ;SCRIPTURES ;NOT OPINIONS ;THIS IS TRUTH ,GODLY TRUTH I AM AFTER ,NOTHING ELSE ;

    LOVE YOU BROTHER ,


    Terra.

    I have shown you the scripture.
    How many times do you expect Christ to tell us
    a straight forward statement,before you will believe?

    Love you too brother.

    wakeup.

    #357586
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,19:43)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 13 2013,23:10)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,13:04)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 13 2013,16:30)
    WAKEUP

    DRAW = LEAD AS WELL THIS YES ,FOR ANYONE THAT SEARCH HIM ,THIS IS THE TRUTH


    Terra.

    Anyone that start seeking the scriptures is because God  draws him. Why would one seek the scriptures if he is not interested in the spiritual?
    Why would one open the bible if he is not interested
    in God?

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    Quote
    Anyone that start seeking the scriptures is because God  draws him. Why would one seek the scriptures if he is not interested in the spiritual?
    Why would one open the bible if he is not interested
    in God?

    if your knowledge you show is true ;YOU WILL FIND MANY SCRIPTURES TO SUPPORT IT ;

    IF YOU DO NOT FIND SUPPORT ;THEN IT IS ANOTHER RELIGION LIE ;A DECEIT OF THE DEVIL ;

    SO PLEASE SHOW ;SCRIPTURES ;NOT OPINIONS ;THIS IS TRUTH ,GODLY TRUTH I AM AFTER ,NOTHING ELSE ;

    LOVE YOU BROTHER ,


    Terra.

    I have shown you the scripture.
    How many times do you expect Christ to tell us
    a straight forward statement,before you will believe?

    Love you too brother.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

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    Terra.

    I have shown you the scripture.
    How many times do you expect Christ to tell us
    a straight forward statement,before you will believe?

    Love you too brother.

    wakeup.

    you have quote John 6;44 no more and try to make it clear ;???

    Jn 6:44 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day.
    Jn 6:45 It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who listens to the Father and learns from him comes to me.

    sins your answer is not their look; AND TELL ME WHAT CHRIST SAYS IN THE NEXT VERSE ;AND HOW THIS WILL BE DONE ??? CAN YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT HE SAYS ??? DO YOU SEE “THAT THE WORD DRAWN ;IS NOT THEIR ??

    AC 2:22 “Men of Israel, listen to these words: Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know—
    AC 13:16 Paul stood up, and motioning with his hand said,
    “Men of Israel, and you who fear God, listen:
    AC 15:13 After they had stopped speaking, James answered, saying, “Brethren, listen to me.
    AC 23:21 “So do not listen to them, for more than forty of them are lying in wait for him who have bound themselves under a curse not to eat or drink until they slay him; and now they are ready and waiting for the promise from you.”
    AC 26:3 especially because you are an expert in all customs and questions among the Jews; therefore I beg you to listen to me patiently.
    AC 28:28 “Therefore let it be known to you that this salvation of God has been sent to the Gentiles; they will also listen.”
    1CO 14:21 In the Law it is written, “BY MEN OF STRANGE TONGUES AND BY THE LIPS OF STRANGERS I WILL SPEAK TO THIS PEOPLE, AND EVEN SO THEY WILL NOT LISTEN TO ME,” says the Lord.
    GAL 4:21 Tell me, you who want to be under law, do you not listen to the law?

    IN THE ABOVE SCRIPTURES YOU WILL FIND THE WORD “”” LISTEN””” UNDERSTAND ; NOT DRAWN ;

    Jas 3:8 but no man can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.
    Jas 3:9 With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God’s likeness.
    Jas 3:10 Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be.
    Jas 3:11 Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring?
    Jas 3:12 My brothers, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water.

    Jas 3:13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show it by his good life, by deeds done in the humility that comes from wisdom.
    Jas 3:14 But if you harbor bitter envy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast about it or deny the truth.
    Jas 3:15 Such “wisdom” does not come down from heaven but is earthly, unspiritual, of the devil.
    Jas 3:16 For where you have envy and selfish ambition, there you find disorder and every evil practice.
    Jas 3:17 But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere.
    Jas 3:18 Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness.

    Jas 4:2 You want something but don’t get it. You kill and covet, but you cannot have what you want. You quarrel and fight. You do not have, because you do not ask God.
    Jas 4:3 When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.
    Jas 4:4 You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.

    Jas 5:7 Be patient, then, brothers, until the Lord’s coming. See how the farmer waits for the land to yield its valuable crop and how patient he is for the autumn and spring rains.
    Jas 5:8 You too, be patient and stand firm, because the Lord’s coming is near.

    Jas 5:11 As you know, we consider blessed those who have persevered. You have heard of Job’s perseverance and have seen what the Lord finally brought about. The Lord is full of compassion and mercy.

    Jas 1:2 Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds,
    Jas 1:3 because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance.
    Jas 1:4 Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.
    Jas 1:5 If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him.
    Jas 1:6 But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind.
    Jas 1:7 That man should not think he will receive anything from the Lord;
    Jas 1:8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all he does.

    Jas 1:12 Blessed is the man who perseveres
    under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him.

    Jas 1:16 Don’t be deceived, my dear brothers.
    Jas 1:17 Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.
    Jas 1:18 He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of all he created.

    LOOK AND UNDERSTAND THIS ;GOD ,

    ” give us birth through the word of truth”

    GOD WILL NOT “DRAW ANYONE ” BECAUSE IT IS OUR HEARTS THAT IS DOING WHAT WE WANT ;IF WE LOVE HIM THEN HE WILL HELP AND LEAD US FOR MORE TRUTH .

    #357590
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Terra.

    Do you believe that in everything,God is there?

    God see's the heart,then he draws them
    the truly intersted, genuine ones.

    Many will come to him for different reasons.
    Some just for curiosity.
    Some for self gain.
    Some for prestige.
    They have drawn themselves.
    They have made themselves prophets and priests.
    God did not choose them.

    wakeup.

    #357594
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,22:22)
    Terra.

    Do you believe that in everything,God is there?

    God see's the heart,then he draws them
    the truly intersted, genuine ones.

    Many will come to him for different reasons.
    Some just for curiosity.
    Some for self gain.
    Some for prestige.
    They have drawn themselves.
    They have made themselves prophets and priests.
    God did not choose them.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    you going to have to learn God's way to explain things ';world doctrines does not cut with me ;

    I do understand scriptures ;so please use scriptures ;

    CAN YOU NOT SEE ,IN ALL THE SCRIPTURES THAT IN NO PLACE ,IT SAYS “DRAW ” I CAN SHOW YOU MUCH MORE SCRIPTURES THAT CAN SHOW THAT ,

    THE ONLY REASON WHY RELIGION LIKE THAT VERSE AND THE WORD “DRAWN” IS BECAUSE IT TICKLES YOUR EARS ,

    THEY MAKE YOU BELIEVE THAT ;BECAUSE YOU ARE IN THEIR CONGREGATION AND SO BE FED BY THEM ,YOU HAVE BEEN DRAWN BY GOD AND SO BE SAVED ' BUT THIS IS A FLAT LIE ,

    BECAUSE IT IS OUR HEART THAT CHOOSES WHICH OF THE THINGS WE LIKE AND WANT TO FOLLOW ;DOES NOT GOD SAYS THIS ??

    Ge 6:5 The LORD saw how great man’s wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time.

    SO YOU HAVE TO NOW SEE FOR YOURSELF IF YOU BELIEVE THIS OR NOT .

    #357597
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 14 2013,04:09)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,22:22)
    Terra.

    Do you believe that in everything,God is there?

    God see's the heart,then he draws them
    the truly intersted, genuine ones.

    Many will come to him for different reasons.
    Some just for curiosity.
    Some for self gain.
    Some for prestige.
    They have drawn themselves.
    They have made themselves prophets and priests.
    God did not choose them.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    you going to have to learn God's way to explain things ';world doctrines does not cut with me ;

    I do understand scriptures ;so please use scriptures ;

    CAN YOU NOT SEE ,IN ALL THE SCRIPTURES THAT IN NO PLACE ,IT SAYS “DRAW ”  I CAN SHOW YOU MUCH MORE SCRIPTURES THAT CAN SHOW THAT ,

    THE ONLY REASON WHY RELIGION LIKE THAT VERSE AND THE WORD “DRAWN”  IS BECAUSE IT TICKLES YOUR EARS ,

    THEY MAKE YOU BELIEVE THAT ;BECAUSE YOU ARE IN THEIR CONGREGATION AND SO BE FED BY THEM ,YOU HAVE BEEN DRAWN BY GOD AND SO BE SAVED ' BUT THIS IS A FLAT LIE ,

    BECAUSE IT IS OUR HEART THAT CHOOSES WHICH OF THE THINGS WE LIKE AND WANT TO FOLLOW ;DOES NOT GOD SAYS THIS ??

    Ge 6:5 The LORD saw how great man’s wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time.

    SO YOU HAVE TO NOW SEE FOR YOURSELF IF YOU BELIEVE THIS OR NOT .


    Terra.

    I believe what Jesus said,I dont know about you.
    He said:*No man* can come to *ME* EXCEPT the Father which hath send me draw him.

    I believe because God knows the heart.

    wakeup.

    #357608
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,23:25)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 14 2013,04:09)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,22:22)
    Terra.

    Do you believe that in everything,God is there?

    God see's the heart,then he draws them
    the truly intersted, genuine ones.

    Many will come to him for different reasons.
    Some just for curiosity.
    Some for self gain.
    Some for prestige.
    They have drawn themselves.
    They have made themselves prophets and priests.
    God did not choose them.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    you going to have to learn God's way to explain things ';world doctrines does not cut with me ;

    I do understand scriptures ;so please use scriptures ;

    CAN YOU NOT SEE ,IN ALL THE SCRIPTURES THAT IN NO PLACE ,IT SAYS “DRAW ”  I CAN SHOW YOU MUCH MORE SCRIPTURES THAT CAN SHOW THAT ,

    THE ONLY REASON WHY RELIGION LIKE THAT VERSE AND THE WORD “DRAWN”  IS BECAUSE IT TICKLES YOUR EARS ,

    THEY MAKE YOU BELIEVE THAT ;BECAUSE YOU ARE IN THEIR CONGREGATION AND SO BE FED BY THEM ,YOU HAVE BEEN DRAWN BY GOD AND SO BE SAVED ' BUT THIS IS A FLAT LIE ,

    BECAUSE IT IS OUR HEART THAT CHOOSES WHICH OF THE THINGS WE LIKE AND WANT TO FOLLOW ;DOES NOT GOD SAYS THIS ??

    Ge 6:5 The LORD saw how great man’s wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time.

    SO YOU HAVE TO NOW SEE FOR YOURSELF IF YOU BELIEVE THIS OR NOT .


    Terra.

    I believe what Jesus said,I dont know about you.
    He said:*No man* can come to *ME* EXCEPT the Father which hath send me draw him.

    I believe because God knows the heart.

    wakeup.


    WAKEUP

    no;

    Jn 3:11 I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony.

    Jn 3:12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?

    Jn 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

    how many scriptures do you need before you will believe ???

    why are you try to justify FALSE BELIEVE ???

    Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”

    I,LIVE BY THE TRUTH ;DO YOU ???

    #357628
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 14 2013,05:54)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,23:25)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 14 2013,04:09)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,22:22)
    Terra.

    Do you believe that in everything,God is there?

    God see's the heart,then he draws them
    the truly intersted, genuine ones.

    Many will come to him for different reasons.
    Some just for curiosity.
    Some for self gain.
    Some for prestige.
    They have drawn themselves.
    They have made themselves prophets and priests.
    God did not choose them.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    you going to have to learn God's way to explain things ';world doctrines does not cut with me ;

    I do understand scriptures ;so please use scriptures ;

    CAN YOU NOT SEE ,IN ALL THE SCRIPTURES THAT IN NO PLACE ,IT SAYS “DRAW ”  I CAN SHOW YOU MUCH MORE SCRIPTURES THAT CAN SHOW THAT ,

    THE ONLY REASON WHY RELIGION LIKE THAT VERSE AND THE WORD “DRAWN”  IS BECAUSE IT TICKLES YOUR EARS ,

    THEY MAKE YOU BELIEVE THAT ;BECAUSE YOU ARE IN THEIR CONGREGATION AND SO BE FED BY THEM ,YOU HAVE BEEN DRAWN BY GOD AND SO BE SAVED ' BUT THIS IS A FLAT LIE ,

    BECAUSE IT IS OUR HEART THAT CHOOSES WHICH OF THE THINGS WE LIKE AND WANT TO FOLLOW ;DOES NOT GOD SAYS THIS ??

    Ge 6:5 The LORD saw how great man’s wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time.

    SO YOU HAVE TO NOW SEE FOR YOURSELF IF YOU BELIEVE THIS OR NOT .


    Terra.

    I believe what Jesus said,I dont know about you.
    He said:*No man* can come to *ME* EXCEPT the Father which hath send me draw him.

    I believe because God knows the heart.

    wakeup.


    WAKEUP

    no;

    Jn 3:11 I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony.

    Jn 3:12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?

    Jn 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

    how many scriptures do you need before you will believe ???

    why are you try to justify FALSE BELIEVE ???

    Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”

    I,LIVE BY THE TRUTH ;DO YOU ???


    Terra.

    Do you, or dont you believe Christ statement?

    He said:*No man* can come to *ME* EXCEPT the Father which hath send me draw him.

    Is that a lie?
    Have I made that up? Is it false believe as *you say it is*?

    quote:(why are you try to justify FALSE BELIEVE ???)unquote:

    Is it not in your bible also?

    wakeup.

    #357662
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 14 2013,06:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 14 2013,05:54)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,23:25)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 14 2013,04:09)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,22:22)
    Terra.

    Do you believe that in everything,God is there?

    God see's the heart,then he draws them
    the truly intersted, genuine ones.

    Many will come to him for different reasons.
    Some just for curiosity.
    Some for self gain.
    Some for prestige.
    They have drawn themselves.
    They have made themselves prophets and priests.
    God did not choose them.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    you going to have to learn God's way to explain things ';world doctrines does not cut with me ;

    I do understand scriptures ;so please use scriptures ;

    CAN YOU NOT SEE ,IN ALL THE SCRIPTURES THAT IN NO PLACE ,IT SAYS “DRAW ”  I CAN SHOW YOU MUCH MORE SCRIPTURES THAT CAN SHOW THAT ,

    THE ONLY REASON WHY RELIGION LIKE THAT VERSE AND THE WORD “DRAWN”  IS BECAUSE IT TICKLES YOUR EARS ,

    THEY MAKE YOU BELIEVE THAT ;BECAUSE YOU ARE IN THEIR CONGREGATION AND SO BE FED BY THEM ,YOU HAVE BEEN DRAWN BY GOD AND SO BE SAVED ' BUT THIS IS A FLAT LIE ,

    BECAUSE IT IS OUR HEART THAT CHOOSES WHICH OF THE THINGS WE LIKE AND WANT TO FOLLOW ;DOES NOT GOD SAYS THIS ??

    Ge 6:5 The LORD saw how great man’s wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time.

    SO YOU HAVE TO NOW SEE FOR YOURSELF IF YOU BELIEVE THIS OR NOT .


    Terra.

    I believe what Jesus said,I dont know about you.
    He said:*No man* can come to *ME* EXCEPT the Father which hath send me draw him.

    I believe because God knows the heart.

    wakeup.


    WAKEUP

    no;

    Jn 3:11 I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony.

    Jn 3:12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?

    Jn 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

    how many scriptures do you need before you will believe ???

    why are you try to justify FALSE BELIEVE ???

    Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”

    I,LIVE BY THE TRUTH ;DO YOU ???


    Terra.

    Do you, or dont you believe Christ statement?

    He said:*No man* can come to *ME* EXCEPT the Father which hath send me draw him.

    Is that a lie?
    Have I made that up? Is it false believe as *you say it is*?

    quote:(why are you try to justify FALSE BELIEVE ???)unquote:

    Is it not in your bible also?

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    IF THOSE WORDS WHERE THE FULL TRUTH ;THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO FIND THIS PRACTICE ,ALL OVER THE SCRIPTURES ;

    BUT “WE DO NOT “” IT ACTUALLY CONTRADICT MOST OF GOD 'S TEACHINGS,'

    AND WE KNOW THAT “GOD NEVER CHANGES ”

    “DID NOT SATAN CHANGED ” THE WORDING WHEN HE TALKED TO EVE IN THE GARDEN ??? YES HE DID '”

    SO AGAIN ,I WILL NOT WAIST MY TIME TO TRY TO CHANGE YOU ,OR ANYONE ELSE ;

    WE ALL MEN STAND” ALONE” BEFORE GOD AND HIS ONLY SON ;AND WHAT EVER WE DO AND THINK, IT IS FROM OUR HEART ;

    OUR ATTRACTION TO GOOD OR EVIL COME FROM OUR HEART;

    NOT FROM THE “DRAWING OF GOD ” THIS IS ONE OF THE EVIL
    SPIRITS ,THAT KILLS MEN BECAUSE THEY DO NOT SEARCH THE TRUTH OF GOD ,BUT RATHER THEIR OWN ;

    so again this as become a useless ,conversation ,based on evil ,

    and so close this conversation ;

    #357681
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 15 2013,04:05)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 14 2013,06:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 14 2013,05:54)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,23:25)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 14 2013,04:09)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,22:22)
    Terra.

    Do you believe that in everything,God is there?

    God see's the heart,then he draws them
    the truly intersted, genuine ones.

    Many will come to him for different reasons.
    Some just for curiosity.
    Some for self gain.
    Some for prestige.
    They have drawn themselves.
    They have made themselves prophets and priests.
    God did not choose them.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    you going to have to learn God's way to explain things ';world doctrines does not cut with me ;

    I do understand scriptures ;so please use scriptures ;

    CAN YOU NOT SEE ,IN ALL THE SCRIPTURES THAT IN NO PLACE ,IT SAYS “DRAW ”  I CAN SHOW YOU MUCH MORE SCRIPTURES THAT CAN SHOW THAT ,

    THE ONLY REASON WHY RELIGION LIKE THAT VERSE AND THE WORD “DRAWN”  IS BECAUSE IT TICKLES YOUR EARS ,

    THEY MAKE YOU BELIEVE THAT ;BECAUSE YOU ARE IN THEIR CONGREGATION AND SO BE FED BY THEM ,YOU HAVE BEEN DRAWN BY GOD AND SO BE SAVED ' BUT THIS IS A FLAT LIE ,

    BECAUSE IT IS OUR HEART THAT CHOOSES WHICH OF THE THINGS WE LIKE AND WANT TO FOLLOW ;DOES NOT GOD SAYS THIS ??

    Ge 6:5 The LORD saw how great man’s wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time.

    SO YOU HAVE TO NOW SEE FOR YOURSELF IF YOU BELIEVE THIS OR NOT .


    Terra.

    I believe what Jesus said,I dont know about you.
    He said:*No man* can come to *ME* EXCEPT the Father which hath send me draw him.

    I believe because God knows the heart.

    wakeup.


    WAKEUP

    no;

    Jn 3:11 I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony.

    Jn 3:12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?

    Jn 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

    how many scriptures do you need before you will believe ???

    why are you try to justify FALSE BELIEVE ???

    Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”

    I,LIVE BY THE TRUTH ;DO YOU ???


    Terra.

    Do you, or dont you believe Christ statement?

    He said:*No man* can come to *ME* EXCEPT the Father which hath send me draw him.

    Is that a lie?
    Have I made that up? Is it false believe as *you say it is*?

    quote:(why are you try to justify FALSE BELIEVE ???)unquote:

    Is it not in your bible also?

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    IF THOSE WORDS WHERE THE FULL TRUTH ;THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO FIND THIS PRACTICE ,ALL OVER THE SCRIPTURES ;

    BUT “WE DO NOT “” IT ACTUALLY CONTRADICT MOST OF GOD 'S TEACHINGS,'

    AND WE KNOW THAT “GOD NEVER CHANGES ”

    “DID NOT SATAN CHANGED ” THE WORDING WHEN HE TALKED TO EVE IN THE GARDEN ??? YES HE DID '”

    SO AGAIN ,I WILL NOT WAIST MY TIME TO TRY TO CHANGE YOU ,OR ANYONE ELSE ;

    WE ALL MEN STAND” ALONE”  BEFORE GOD AND HIS ONLY SON ;AND WHAT EVER WE DO AND THINK, IT IS FROM OUR HEART ;

    OUR ATTRACTION TO GOOD OR EVIL COME FROM OUR HEART;

    NOT FROM THE “DRAWING OF GOD ” THIS IS ONE OF THE EVIL
    SPIRITS ,THAT KILLS MEN BECAUSE THEY DO NOT SEARCH THE TRUTH OF GOD ,BUT RATHER THEIR OWN ;

    so again this as become a useless ,conversation ,based on evil ,

    and so close this conversation ;


    Terra.

    You are closing this conversation by saying
    that those words Jesus spoke was a lie.

    How can you? And all because you can not
    make sense of it.

    wakeup.

    #357942
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote
    Terra.

    You are closing this conversation by saying
    that those words Jesus spoke was a lie.

    How can you? And all because you can not
    make sense of it.

    wakeup.

    I DID NOT CLOSED FOR THAT REASON ;IT IS AGAINST GOD ,WRITTEN WORD ,AGAINST CHRIST TEACHINGS , AND YOU TELL ME I CAN NOT MAKE SENSE OF IT ;

    I HOPE YOU ARE RIGHT IN THIS ,HOW CAN TRUTH NOW START TO LOOK INTO EVIL ???

    WHERE IS THIS COME FROM ;

    OUR FAITH IS NOT BASED ON TO BE “DRAWN BY GOD ”   BUT ON BELIEVING IN HIM AND THE ONE THAT HE AS SEND HIS ONE AND ONLY SON JESUS CHRIST ;  

    SEE NO “DRAWN”

    #357959
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 18 2013,09:31)

    Quote
    Terra.

    You are closing this conversation by saying
    that those words Jesus spoke was a lie.

    How can you? And all because you can not
    make sense of it.

    wakeup.

    I DID NOT CLOSED FOR THAT REASON ;IT IS AGAINST GOD ,WRITTEN WORD ,AGAINST CHRIST TEACHINGS , AND YOU TELL ME I CAN NOT MAKE SENSE OF IT ;

    I HOPE YOU ARE RIGHT IN THIS ,HOW CAN TRUTH NOW START TO LOOK INTO EVIL ???

    WHERE IS THIS COME FROM ;

    OUR FAITH IS NOT BASED ON TO BE “DRAWN BY GOD ”   BUT ON BELIEVING IN HIM AND THE ONE THAT HE AS SEND HIS ONE AND ONLY SON JESUS CHRIST ;  

    SEE NO “DRAWN”


    Terra.

    If anything does not agree *with you*,
    even christ own words.
    Is a lie.

    Everyone in heaven net and in the world
    is a deceiver but you.
    You are the true follower of Christ.
    The Christ that you just rejected.

    wakeup.

    #379054
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 10 2013,12:24)
    No forgetting this one thing;and that is that no one can come to God unless God draws him.
    For God knows who are his,and he will draw them to him.
    And Jesus will do the feeding.

    wakeup.


    Hi WU,
    You missed the steps about repentance and baptism by water and the Spirit

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