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Here is a fascinating debate on the existence of God between two high calibre intellects, one an atheist and the other a christian. Great reading for anyone interested in christian apologetics:
June 8, 2006 at 8:43 am#14691Is 1:18ParticipantI love this part, Bob Enyart on the Clichés atheists use:
"Boiled down to clear statements exposed to the light of day, each of these popular clichés can be disproved within eight seconds.
Atheist Cliché 1: There is no truth!
Theist Rebuttal: Is that true? [1 second]Atheist Cliché 2: There are no absolutes!
Theist Rebuttal: Absolutely? [1 second]Atheist Cliché 3: Only your five senses provide real knowledge!
Theist Rebuttal: Says which of the five? [2 seconds]Atheist Cliché 4: Great suffering proves that a loving God cannot exist!
Theist Rebuttal: The unstated assumption is false, that suffering can have no value or purpose. [4.5 seconds]Atheist Cliché 5: Atheism is scientific, because science does not allow for a supernatural interpretation of an event!
Theist Rebuttal: Such circular reasoning forces science to assume that which atheists claim it supports. [5 seconds]Atheist Cliché 6: Widespread evil proves that a righteous God cannot exist!
Theist Rebuttal: The two unstated assumptions are false: that love can be forced; and that some love is not worth enduring much hate. [6.5 seconds]Atheist Cliché 7: If theists claim that the universe could not have always been here, then God couldn’t have always been here either.
Theist Rebuttal: The natural universe is subject to the physical laws, so it would run out of useable energy; a supernatural, spiritual God is not subject to physics. [7.9 seconds]If your worldview can be dismantled within eight seconds, then get a better one."
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