God reveals truth, the son reveals truth

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 27 2010,14:30)
    Hi TT,
    You would know God and His son and not be confused if you put aside the gameplaying and listened to Jesus.


    NH

    That is the point. Jack is giving you Jesus very own words.

    Who is not listening?

    WJ

    #173845
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 28 2010,06:30)
    Hi TT,
    You would know God and His son and not be confused if you put aside the gameplaying and listened to Jesus.


    Listen to Jesus yourself:

    For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son, 23 that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him

    Listen to Jesus Nick!

    thinker

    #173846
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WJ,
    You use the word of God against itself to justify your human dogmas?
    Is that wise?

    #173847
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 28 2010,06:34)
    Hi WJ,
    You use the word of God against itself to justify your human dogmas?
    Is that wise?


    See my post immediately above Nick.

    thinker

    #173851
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi TT,
    Indeed and the prophets too ought to have been honored.
    But all God's servants suffer at the hands of rebellious men.

    Even the sacred words of God are abused and misused by those who serve another strange god.

    #173866
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 28 2010,06:58)
    Hi TT,
    Indeed and the prophets too ought to have been honored.
    But all God's servants suffer at the hands of rebellious men.

    Even the sacred words of God are abused and misused by those who serve another strange god.


    So the prophets had “all judgment” committed to them? The prophets were to be honored “even as” the Father is to be honored?

    thinker

    #173962
    terraricca
    Participant

    TT
    what is wrong with you TT?????you always find in scriptures something different then others ,the way it could be explain is that you have a alternatif gospel,only for trinitarians,
    i went and look at your previous quotes in different topics and it is always repetition of more of the same

    Posted: Jan. 28 2010,06:33

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 28 2010,06:30)
    Hi TT,
    You would know God and His son and not be confused if you put aside the game playing and listened to Jesus.

    Listen to Jesus yourself:

    For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son, 23 that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him

    there is nothing wrong to honor the Son as to honor the father ,this does not mean worshiping.

    TT,the purpose of your comments make me believe you are not focus on the price ;everlasting live ;in God and Christ kingdom ,is it ????

    #174133
    JustAskin
    Participant

    WJ and TT,

    Man, (men), you just made me laugh so much just now.

    TT to JA: “This is the sloppiest sylllogism I have ever seen. It is altogether unintelligible.”
    WJ to TT: '…Jack – Very good!'

    The “sloppiest sylllogism” comes from a TRINITARIAN Website showing how to deal with Jehovah Witnesses…..

    TT,

    This, too is sloppy:
    “Major premise: Only God reveals truth” (this is true)
    “Minor premise: The Son reveals the Father” (This is true)
    “Conclusion: Therefore, the Son is God” (this is cannot be interpolated from the premises given and is therefore indeterminate 'as it stands' i.e. without further premise input)

    (phew! I knew my computer [hardware] skills would come in useful one day)

    This is Human logic and deceitful reasoning.

    You can write anything you like in the Premises and then say the conclusion is “Therefore, the Son is God”. That is no proof of anything at all. Why do you do it? Do you feel that youa ref ooling people – maybe the unwary, ignorant, easily convined, lacking understanding, desirous of “fool gold”… but remember not all here are in those categories (at all times, anyway)

    I'm sorry, my man. I know we only just talking again but this is pure amateur reasoning only fit enough to fool children (possibly) and other fools?

    #174137
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    And of course the addendum would have to be that the Father is the Son.
    Why did they stop before saying it?

    #174192
    terraricca
    Participant

    hi nick

    i don't know ,but like dreamer they do not remember all there dreams i guess.

    #175407
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    terraricca said:

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    there is nothing wrong to honor the Son as to honor the father ,this does not mean worshiping.

    You contradict yourself.

    thinker

    #175408
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    JustAskin said:

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    You can write anything you like in the Premises and then say the conclusion is “Therefore, the Son is God”. That is no proof of anything at all.  Why do you do it? Do you feel that youa ref ooling people – maybe the unwary, ignorant, easily convined, lacking understanding, desirous of “fool gold”… but remember not all here are in those categories (at all times, anyway)

    If both premises are true then the conclusion necessarily follows.

    Major premise: Only God can reveal truth
    Minor premise: Jesus reveals truth
    Conclusion: Therefore, Jesus is God

    The conclusion cannot be false if both premises are true. Do you take issue with the two premises?

    thinker

    #175410
    terraricca
    Participant

    TT

    your conclusions are very scientific ,it remind me of a little story about a frog study were the scientist tell the frog to jump so he write down frog 4 leg =jump and he pull a leg of and say to the frog jump,so the frog jump ,so he wright down frog 3leg =jump, and so on until the frog at no legs then he say to the frog jump ,of cause the frog at no legs did not jump so he write frog no legs =def

    i am sure you are not interested in any way in the scriptures ,your quotes testified to that,

    and you contradict yourself many times but most people do not see it, here i am guessing

    #175412
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2010,01:54)
    TT

    your conclusions are very scientific ,it remind me of a little story about a frog study were the scientist tell the frog to jump so he write down frog 4 leg =jump and he pull a leg of and say to the frog jump,so the frog jump ,so he wright down frog 3leg =jump, and so on until the frog at no legs then he say to the frog jump ,of cause the frog at no legs did not jump so he write frog no legs =def

    i am sure you are not interested in any way in the scriptures ,your quotes testified to that,

    and you contradict yourself many times but most people do not see it, here i am guessing


    t,

    Major premise: Only God can reveal truth
    Minor premise: Jesus reveals truth
    Conclusion: Therefore, Jesus is God

    Are the two premises true? If you say yes then the conclusion necessarily follows.

    It's not hard to understand.

    thinker

    #175413
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 04 2010,01:30)
    terraricca said:

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    there is nothing wrong to honor the Son as to honor the father ,this does not mean worshiping.

    You contradict yourself.

    thinker


    t,

    Explain how the Son can be honored EVEN AS the Father without being worshiped. And explain why the whole creation worships the Father and the Son except for you (Rev. 5:13).

    thinker

    #175444
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi TT,
    Should the prophets have been honored as vessels for God but instead were murdered too?
    Jesus is the ultimate vessel in the household of God.[2Tim2]

    #175445
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 04 2010,02:07)

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2010,01:54)
    TT

    your conclusions are very scientific ,it remind me of a little story about a frog study were the scientist tell the frog to jump so he write down frog 4 leg =jump and he pull a leg of and say to the frog jump,so the frog jump ,so he wright down frog 3leg =jump, and so on until the frog at no legs then he say to the frog jump ,of cause the frog at no legs did not jump so he write frog no legs =def

    i am sure you are not interested in any way in the scriptures ,your quotes testified to that,

    and you contradict yourself many times but most people do not see it, here i am guessing


    t,

    Major premise: Only God can reveal truth
    Minor premise: Jesus reveals truth
    Conclusion: Therefore, Jesus is God

    Are the two premises true? If you say yes then the conclusion necessarily follows.

    It's not hard to understand.

    thinker


    Hi TT,
    Did you study logic?
    This is a ludicrous example.

    God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself.

    A similar one would be.

    Only God does miracles.
    Jesus and the prophets and apostles did miracles.
    Therefore all are God.

    Wake up

    #175473
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 04 2010,05:27)
    Hi TT,
    Should the prophets have been honored as vessels for God but instead were murdered too?
    Jesus is the ultimate vessel in the household of God.[2Tim2]


    We have been throught this before Nick. God did not commit all judgment to the prophets. Jesus is to be honored EVEN AS the Father BECAUSE all judgment has been committed to Him.

    Only a child makes one repeat Himself. Know what I mean?

    thinker

    #175475
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi TT,
    All were servants of the Lord God though none were anointed to the degree the Son was.[Jn3]
    The vine serves the Gardener.

    #175477
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi TT,
    Did the prophets speak for God?
    Did angels speak for God?
    Are they all God then?

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