God is over all, christ is over all

[KangarooJack]

Georg said:

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This is how it reads in my Bible. Rom 9:5   Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen. Christ is over all, and that is why Paul blesses God for.

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TO ALL:

Georg has admitted that Christ is “over all” (bold letters). Yet Georg and Irene have repeatedly said in the past that only the Father is above (over) all.

Ephesians 4:6 Young's Literal translation:
6one God and Father of all, who [is] over all, and through all, and in you all,

Romans 9:5:
of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen.

The English word “over” is the same Greek word “epi” in both verses.

* The Father is “over (epi) all.”
* Christ is “over (epi) all.”

Therefore, God and Christ are EQUAL in authority. Georg has repeatedly said that only the Father is over all. Now Georg admits that Christ is over all. I have asked Georg and Irene to reply and I get nuttin.

Does anyone else here want to go for it?

thinker

[NickHassan]

Hi TT,
Why does it surprise you that when Christ is given all authority by his [greater] God he is lord of all?
It is simple but simplicity is not your style.

[NickHassan]

Hi TT,
Your pathetic inferential logic impresses you but none of us..
It is of the same level as saying babies are pink and so are pigs and THEREFORE babies are pigs.

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 19 2010,05:15)

Hi TT, Why does it surprise you that when Christ is given all authority by his [greater] God he is lord of all? It is simple but simplicity is not your style.

Nick,

Christ was given the authority that He for our sakes yielded of His own volition (Philippians 2). Anyway, you do admit then that Christ is “over all” and that He is God to YOU?

You do admit then that the Father alone is not “over all?”

What Christ is to the Father is one thing. But what He is to YOU is the real issue isn't it?

thinker

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 18 2010,13:28)

Hi TT, Your pathetic inferential logic impresses you but none of us.. It is of the same level as saying babies are pink and so are pigs and THEREFORE babies are pigs.

NH

Comparing the Father and Jesus is on the “same level” as comparing a baby and a pig?

I can see how you would make that leap seeing your view of Jesus as being a mere man like us sinful mortals!

WJ

[KangarooJack]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 19 2010,06:24)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 18 2010,13:28) Hi TT, Your pathetic inferential logic impresses you but none of us.. It is of the same level as saying babies are pink and so are pigs and THEREFORE babies are pigs. NH Comparing the Father and Jesus is on the “same level” as comparing a baby and a pig?   I can see how you would make that leap seeing your view of Jesus as being a mere man like us sinful mortals! WJ

And Nick says that my logic is pathetic. Geez!

thinker

[NickHassan]

Hi WJ,
Nice try but it was INFERENTIAL LOGIC that was being discussed.

[NickHassan]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 19 2010,06:17)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 19 2010,05:15) Hi TT, Why does it surprise you that when Christ is given all authority by his [greater] God he is lord of all? It is simple but simplicity is not your style. Nick, Christ was given the authority that He for our sakes yielded of His own volition (Philippians 2). Anyway, you do admit then that Christ is “over all” and that He is God to YOU? You do admit then that the Father alone is not “over all?” What Christ is to the Father is one thing. But what He is to YOU is the real issue isn't it? thinker

Hi TT,
So show us from Phil 2 that Jesus had ALL AUTHORITY and gave it up.

[NickHassan]

Hi TT,
Jesus is Lord of all according to Scripture.
His God should be our God.
But not for you?

[JustAskin]

Nick,

It is true what has been posted – TT and WJ just keep going round in circles – now he is attacking “the young ones” thinking(ha ha!) that he can make a strike against them.

So sad but I guess it had to come. sooner or later.

What comes good from this though is that ALL must keep on their toes as to what they post and never let up their guard so that you are not caught out with unguarded comments.

It will help to make you stronger – if there was no resistance how would you test your God given knowledge – we would just end up agreeing [possibly falsely] with each other.

The only thing that gets to me is the sheer stupidly an d 'Goldfish in a bowl' mentality, especially of TT.

It doesn't matter how many time you prove something to him, he comes back at another time with the same lame arguments that he was beaten down with the last time – perhaps hoping that noone noticed that he has already been whipped before and hoping for a winner this time round his circuit of deceit.

[NickHassan]

Hi JA,
We do not call folk stupid here.
1800 years of tradition is a hard prison to break free from.

[JustAskin]

TT,

once again:

1 Corinthians 15:27: for “God has put everything under his feet.” Now when he says, “Everything has been put under him,” this clearly excludes the one who put everything under him.”

God is not equal to Jesus.
God gives – Jesus is 'given'

When Jesus accomplishes he gives back that which was given (him plus more).

Do you not know the parable of the Talents?

[JustAskin]

TT, ARE YOU SURE YOU HAVE QUALIFICATIONS PERTAINING TO SCRIPTURAL LEARNING?

[JustAskin]

Soory, …Are you sure you EARNED qualifications in Scriptural learning?

[JustAskin]

I have NO qualifications anything like what you say you have.

[terraricca]

JA
TT is what he is ,if you go on is turf at is condition ,you will be frustrated,i thought you understood
this.

this site allows you not to respond to people who seems not incline with the scriptures as we do.

[JustAskin]

Terra,
You are right – I have allowed him to get at me.
Maybe that is his plan – he cannot assail me so he aims to get me banned (to ban myself!)

[JustAskin]

Nick,

I agree – I was in a passion – like Jesus got into when he overturned the money changers in the temple.

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 19 2010,06:40)

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 19 2010,06:17) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 19 2010,05:15) Hi TT, Why does it surprise you that when Christ is given all authority by his [greater] God he is lord of all? It is simple but simplicity is not your style. Nick, Christ was given the authority that He for our sakes yielded of His own volition (Philippians 2). Anyway, you do admit then that Christ is “over all” and that He is God to YOU? You do admit then that the Father alone is not “over all?” What Christ is to the Father is one thing. But what He is to YOU is the real issue isn't it? thinker Hi TT, So show us from Phil 2 that Jesus had ALL AUTHORITY and gave it up.

Nick,

You have been shown it before. He existed in the form of God but did not grasp on to His equality. he emptied Himself and took the form of a servant.

Seems clear to me!

thinker

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 19 2010,06:41)

Hi TT, Jesus is Lord of all according to Scripture. His God should be our God. But not for you?

Christ's God said that Jesus is God (Heb. 1:8).

thinker

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