God is not finish with the jews.

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  • #362943
    terraricca
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    w

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    Who created the great flood?
    Was it a *good* flood before it became a *bad* flood?
    And God said; whoops!! I didn't know that ,sorry people.
    Who created the plagues in Egypt?
    Was it suppose to be a *good* plague,but became *bad*?

    Your God is not in control.

    Your doctrine; taught by men does not work.
    You have to sleep with it.

    wakeup.

    you still do not get it ;has soon that the opposition came to be ,do you think that God would stay still ??? this was the thought of Satan ,that he could do what ever he wanted ,and so corrupt the entire creation ; BUT WHAT ABOUT JUSTICE FOR THOSE THAT NOT FOLLOW SATAN ??? AND THIS IS WERE ALL COMES TO PLAY ,RIGHTEOUSNESS ,TRUTH,DIVISION AMONG THE ANGELS AND MEN ,THE GOOD AND EVIL ONES ,SEPARATION UNTIL THE END WHEN ALL NUMBERS ARE FULFILLED ,

    #362951
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 02 2013,03:26)
    w

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    T.

    Who created the great flood?
    Was it a *good* flood before it became a *bad* flood?
    And God said; whoops!! I didn't know that ,sorry people.
    Who created the plagues in Egypt?
    Was it suppose to be a *good* plague,but became *bad*?

    Your God is not in control.

    Your doctrine; taught by men does not work.
    You have to sleep with it.

    wakeup.

    you still do not get it ;has soon that the opposition came to be ,do you think that God would stay still ??? this was the thought of Satan ,that he could do what ever he wanted ,and so corrupt the entire creation ; BUT WHAT ABOUT JUSTICE FOR THOSE THAT NOT FOLLOW SATAN ??? AND THIS IS WERE ALL COMES TO PLAY ,RIGHTEOUSNESS ,TRUTH,DIVISION AMONG THE ANGELS AND MEN ,THE GOOD AND EVIL ONES ,SEPARATION UNTIL THE END WHEN ALL NUMBERS ARE FULFILLED ,


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    you still do not get it ;has soon that the opposition came to be ,do you think that God would stay still this was the thought of Satan ,that he could do what ever he wanted ,and so corrupt the entire creation ; BUT WHAT ABOUT JUSTICE FOR THOSE THAT NOT FOLLOW SATAN AND THIS IS WERE ALL COMES TO PLAY ,RIGHTEOUSNESS ,TRUTH,DIVISION AMONG THE ANGELS AND MEN ,THE GOOD AND EVIL ONES ,SEPARATION UNTIL THE END WHEN ALL NUMBERS ARE FULFILLED ,

    It's either:
    1.You dont know your scriptures.
    2.You are reading some other bible.
    3.you are in total ignorance.
    4.The scriptures dont mean anything to you.

    Genesis 6:7 And the LORD said, **I will destroy man** whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

    Genesis 7:4 For yet seven days, and **I will cause it to rain upon the earth** forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made **will I destroy from off the face of the earth**.

    Genesis 8:21 And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the **LORD said in his heart**, **I will not again curse the ground any more** for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, **as I have done**.

    wakeup.

    #362953
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 02 2013,01:47)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 02 2013,03:26)
    w

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    T.

    Who created the great flood?
    Was it a *good* flood before it became a *bad* flood?
    And God said; whoops!! I didn't know that ,sorry people.
    Who created the plagues in Egypt?
    Was it suppose to be a *good* plague,but became *bad*?

    Your God is not in control.

    Your doctrine; taught by men does not work.
    You have to sleep with it.

    wakeup.

    you still do not get it ;has soon that the opposition came to be ,do you think that God would stay still ??? this was the thought of Satan ,that he could do what ever he wanted ,and so corrupt the entire creation ; BUT WHAT ABOUT JUSTICE FOR THOSE THAT NOT FOLLOW SATAN ??? AND THIS IS WERE ALL COMES TO PLAY ,RIGHTEOUSNESS ,TRUTH,DIVISION AMONG THE ANGELS AND MEN ,THE GOOD AND EVIL ONES ,SEPARATION UNTIL THE END WHEN ALL NUMBERS ARE FULFILLED ,


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    you still do not get it ;has soon that the opposition came to be ,do you think that God would stay still  this was the thought of Satan ,that he could do what ever he wanted ,and so corrupt the entire creation ; BUT WHAT ABOUT JUSTICE FOR THOSE THAT NOT FOLLOW SATAN  AND THIS IS WERE ALL COMES TO PLAY ,RIGHTEOUSNESS ,TRUTH,DIVISION AMONG THE ANGELS AND MEN ,THE GOOD AND EVIL ONES ,SEPARATION UNTIL THE END WHEN ALL NUMBERS ARE FULFILLED ,

    It's either:
    1.You dont know your scriptures.
    2.You are reading some other bible.
    3.you are in total ignorance.
    4.The scriptures dont mean anything to you.

    Genesis 6:7   And the LORD said, **I will destroy man** whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

    Genesis 7:4   For yet seven days, and **I will cause it to rain upon the earth** forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made **will I destroy from off the face of the earth**.

     Genesis 8:21   And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the **LORD said in his heart**, **I will not again curse the ground any more** for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, **as I have done**.

    wakeup.


    w

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    3.you are in total ignorance

    it seems I am wasting your time ,if not YOU ARE TRULY WASTING MINE ,

    SO SHOW ME THAT YOU HAVE NOT BE TRAINED BY MEN,

    #362955
    Wakeup
    Participant

    The fact is that God created satan(evil),
    and the evil angels. No one else,but God.
    God created lucifer good,yes; but *he also knew*
    that lucifer will be the *father of evil*.
    And *He also knew* that some angels will follow satan.
    The facts can not be changed,with excuses;like
    lucifer was good etc,etc.

    wakeup.

    #362956
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 02 2013,02:00)
    The fact is that God created satan(evil),
    and the evil angels. No one else,but God.
    God created lucifer good,yes; but *he also knew*
    that lucifer will be the *father of evil*.
    And *He also knew* that some angels will follow satan.
    The facts can not be changed,with excuses;like
    lucifer was good etc,etc.

    wakeup.


    you become senile and repeating yourself but it is only in your misinterpretation, and faulty kjv translation that because of your unwillingness to verify the knowledge of the matter that can be learn and that is near your hands,

    anyway you not right or true with scriptures ;and so only quoting scriptures not related to the discussion ,

    and so it become useless ,so bye

    #362967
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 02 2013,07:09)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 02 2013,02:00)
    The fact is that God created satan(evil),
    and the evil angels. No one else,but God.
    God created lucifer good,yes; but *he also knew*
    that lucifer will be the *father of evil*.
    And *He also knew* that some angels will follow satan.
    The facts can not be changed,with excuses;like
    lucifer was good etc,etc.

    wakeup.


    you become senile  and repeating yourself but it is only in your misinterpretation, and faulty kjv translation  that because of your unwillingness  to verify the knowledge of the matter that can be learn and that is near your hands,

    anyway you not right or true with scriptures ;and so only quoting  scriptures not related to the  discussion ,

    and so it become useless ,so bye


    No bullets left to shoot back Terra?
    You better run.

    wakeup

    #362968
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 02 2013,03:39)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 02 2013,07:09)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 02 2013,02:00)
    The fact is that God created satan(evil),
    and the evil angels. No one else,but God.
    God created lucifer good,yes; but *he also knew*
    that lucifer will be the *father of evil*.
    And *He also knew* that some angels will follow satan.
    The facts can not be changed,with excuses;like
    lucifer was good etc,etc.

    wakeup.


    you become senile  and repeating yourself but it is only in your misinterpretation, and faulty kjv translation  that because of your unwillingness  to verify the knowledge of the matter that can be learn and that is near your hands,

    anyway you not right or true with scriptures ;and so only quoting  scriptures not related to the  discussion ,

    and so it become useless ,so bye


    No bullets left to shoot back Terra?
    You better run.

    wakeup


    Wakeup

    I always run away from ungodly things and conversation ,in time ,

    #363010
    Resting
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 02 2013,07:00)
    The fact is that God created satan(evil),
    and the evil angels. No one else,but God.
    God created lucifer good,yes; but *he also knew*
    that lucifer will be the *father of evil*.
    And *He also knew* that some angels will follow satan.
    The facts can not be changed,with excuses;like
    lucifer was good etc,etc.

    wakeup.


    God did not create satan evil.
    God created a spirit opposer.

    God did not create Lucifer , Lucifer was the King of Babylon.

    Satan was the father of lies and spiritual father of all liars.

    Satan is not an angel and no heavenly angels follow him, or ever did.

    Satan was never in Heaven.

    Res.

    #363017
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Resting @ Dec. 03 2013,07:50)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 02 2013,07:00)
    The fact is that God created satan(evil),
    and the evil angels. No one else,but God.
    God created lucifer good,yes; but *he also knew*
    that lucifer will be the *father of evil*.
    And *He also knew* that some angels will follow satan.
    The facts can not be changed,with excuses;like
    lucifer was good etc,etc.

    wakeup.


    God did not create satan evil.
       God created a spirit opposer.

    God did not create Lucifer , Lucifer was the King of Babylon.

    Satan was the father of lies and spiritual father of all liars.

    Satan is not an angel and no heavenly angels follow him, or ever did.

    Satan was never in Heaven.

    Res.


    Resting.

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    did not create satan evil.
    God created a spirit opposer.
    God did not create Lucifer , Lucifer was the King of Babylon.

    Isaiah 14:12 How art thou
    ***fallen from heaven***, *O Lucifer*, *son of the
    morning*!
    how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

    ( LUCIFER FALLEN FROM HEAVEN)

    Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

    Isaiah 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.LICIFER THE EX CHERUB=SATAN.

    Ezekiel 28:14 Thou art **the anointed cherub** that covereth; and **I have set thee so**: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

    Ezekiel 28:15 Thou *wast perfect* in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

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    Satan is not an angel and no heavenly angels follow him, or ever did.
    Satan was never in Heaven.

    Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and *Satan came also* among them.

    Job 1:7 And the LORD said *unto Satan*, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

    SATAN WAS IN HEAVEN

    SATAN IS THE KING OF BABYLON.
    BUT OF BABYLON THE GREAT (THE WORLD).

    SCRIPTURE:Daniel 4:37 Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and *honour the King of heaven*, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase.***(KING NEB CONVERTED)***.
    LUCIFER IS NOT KING NEB: HE IS AN EX CHERUB;IN HEAVEN
    CAST DOWN TO EARTH.

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    Satan is not an angel and no heavenly angels follow him, or ever did.

    .

    Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great *red dragon*, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

    Revelation 12:4 And
    **his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven**,
    and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

    Revelation 12:7 And there was **war in heaven**: Michael and his angels fought against *the dragon*;
    **and the dragon fought and his angels**,

    Revelation 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found *any more in heaven*.

    Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent,
    ****called the Devil, and Satan****,
    which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and *his angels* were cast out *with him*.

    RESTING: WHAT BIBLE TRANSLATION HAVE YOU GOT?
    ITS FULL OF CONTRADICTIONS PLEASE THIS IS SERIOUS.

    wakeup.

    #363035
    journey42
    Participant

    Wakeup,Dec. wrote:

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    RESTING: WHAT BIBLE TRANSLATION HAVE YOU GOT?

    Parallel Verses
    Psalm 109:6

    King James Bible
    Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand.

    New World Translation
    Appoint a wicked man over him;
    May a resister stand at his right hand.

    New International Version
    Appoint someone evil to oppose my enemy; let an accuser stand at his right hand.

    New Living Translation
    They say, “Get an evil person to turn against him. Send an accuser to bring him to trial.

    English Standard Version
    Appoint a wicked man against him; let an accuser stand at his right hand.

    New American Standard Bible
    Appoint a wicked man over him, And let an accuser stand at his right hand.

    Holman Christian Standard Bible
    Set a wicked person over him; let an accuser stand at his right hand.

    International Standard Version
    Appoint an evil person over him; may an accuser stand at his right side.

    NET Bible
    Appoint an evil man to testify against him! May an accuser stand at his right side!

    Aramaic Bible in Plain English
    Command evil against them and Satan shall stand at their right hand!

    GOD'S WORD® Translation
    “Appoint the evil one to oppose him. Let Satan stand beside him.

    Jubilee Bible 2000
    Set thou the wicked man over him, and let Satan stand at his right hand.

    King James 2000 Bible
    Set you a wicked man over him: and let an accuser stand at his right hand.

    American King James Version
    Set you a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand.

    American Standard Version
    Set thou a wicked man over him; And let an adversary stand at his right hand.

    Douay-Rheims Bible
    Set thou the sinner over him: and may the devil stand at his right hand.

    Darby Bible Translation
    Set a wicked man over him, and let the adversary stand at his right hand;

    English Revised Version
    Set thou a wicked man over him: and let an adversary stand at his right hand.

    Webster's Bible Translation
    Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand.

    World English Bible
    Set a wicked man over him. Let an adversary stand at his right hand.

    Young's Literal Translation
    Appoint Thou over him the wicked, And an adversary standeth at his right hand.

    #363042
    terraricca
    Participant

    j42

    Spal;109;6 is related to Christ and Judas Iscariot

    #363051
    Resting
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 03 2013,09:33)

    Quote (Resting @ Dec. 03 2013,07:50)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 02 2013,07:00)
    The fact is that God created satan(evil),
    and the evil angels. No one else,but God.
    God created lucifer good,yes; but *he also knew*
    that lucifer will be the *father of evil*.
    And *He also knew* that some angels will follow satan.
    The facts can not be changed,with excuses;like
    lucifer was good etc,etc.

    wakeup.


    God did not create satan evil.
       God created a spirit opposer.

    God did not create Lucifer , Lucifer was the King of Babylon.

    Satan was the father of lies and spiritual father of all liars.

    Satan is not an angel and no heavenly angels follow him, or ever did.

    Satan was never in Heaven.

    Res.


    Resting.

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    did not create satan evil.
       God created a spirit opposer.
    God did not create Lucifer , Lucifer was the King of Babylon.

    Isaiah 14:12   How art thou
    ***fallen from heaven***, *O Lucifer*, *son of the
          morning*!
    how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

                     ( LUCIFER FALLEN FROM HEAVEN)

     Isaiah 14:13   For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

    Isaiah 14:14   I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.LICIFER THE EX CHERUB=SATAN.

    Ezekiel 28:14   Thou art **the anointed cherub** that covereth; and **I have set thee so**: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

     Ezekiel 28:15   Thou *wast perfect* in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

    Quote
    Satan is not an angel and no heavenly angels follow him, or ever did.
    Satan was never in Heaven.

    Job 1:6   Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and *Satan came also* among them.

     Job 1:7   And the LORD said *unto Satan*, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

                        SATAN WAS IN HEAVEN

    SATAN IS THE KING OF BABYLON.
    BUT OF BABYLON THE GREAT (THE WORLD).

    SCRIPTURE:Daniel 4:37   Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and *honour the King of heaven*, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase.***(KING NEB CONVERTED)***.
    LUCIFER IS NOT KING NEB: HE IS AN EX CHERUB;IN HEAVEN
    CAST DOWN TO EARTH.

    Quote
    Satan is not an angel and no heavenly angels follow him, or ever did.

    .

    Revelation 12:3   And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great *red dragon*, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

     Revelation 12:4   And
      **his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven**,
    and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

    Revelation 12:7   And there was **war in heaven**: Michael and his angels fought against *the dragon*;
             **and the dragon fought and his angels**,

    Revelation 12:8   And prevailed not; neither was their place found *any more in heaven*.

    Revelation 12:9   And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent,
                      ****called the Devil, and Satan****,
    which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and *his angels* were cast out *with him*.

    RESTING: WHAT BIBLE TRANSLATION HAVE YOU GOT?
    ITS FULL OF CONTRADICTIONS PLEASE THIS IS SERIOUS.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    You can not see.

    What you believe of those scriptures keeps you blind to the truth.

    Res.

    #363065
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Resting @ Dec. 03 2013,13:33)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 03 2013,09:33)

    Quote (Resting @ Dec. 03 2013,07:50)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 02 2013,07:00)
    The fact is that God created satan(evil),
    and the evil angels. No one else,but God.
    God created lucifer good,yes; but *he also knew*
    that lucifer will be the *father of evil*.
    And *He also knew* that some angels will follow satan.
    The facts can not be changed,with excuses;like
    lucifer was good etc,etc.

    wakeup.


    God did not create satan evil.
       God created a spirit opposer.

    God did not create Lucifer , Lucifer was the King of Babylon.

    Satan was the father of lies and spiritual father of all liars.

    Satan is not an angel and no heavenly angels follow him, or ever did.

    Satan was never in Heaven.

    Res.


    Resting.

    Quote
    did not create satan evil.
       God created a spirit opposer.
    God did not create Lucifer , Lucifer was the King of Babylon.

    Isaiah 14:12   How art thou
    ***fallen from heaven***, *O Lucifer*, *son of the
          morning*!
    how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

                     ( LUCIFER FALLEN FROM HEAVEN)

     Isaiah 14:13   For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

    Isaiah 14:14   I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.LICIFER THE EX CHERUB=SATAN.

    Ezekiel 28:14   Thou art **the anointed cherub** that covereth; and **I have set thee so**: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

     Ezekiel 28:15   Thou *wast perfect* in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

    Quote
    Satan is not an angel and no heavenly angels follow him, or ever did.
    Satan was never in Heaven.

    Job 1:6   Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and *Satan came also* among them.

     Job 1:7   And the LORD said *unto Satan*, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

                        SATAN WAS IN HEAVEN

    SATAN IS THE KING OF BABYLON.
    BUT OF BABYLON THE GREAT (THE WORLD).

    SCRIPTURE:Daniel 4:37   Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and *honour the King of heaven*, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase.***(KING NEB CONVERTED)***.
    LUCIFER IS NOT KING NEB: HE IS AN EX CHERUB;IN HEAVEN
    CAST DOWN TO EARTH.

    Quote
    Satan is not an angel and no heavenly angels follow him, or ever did.

    .

    Revelation 12:3   And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great *red dragon*, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

     Revelation 12:4   And
      **his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven**,
    and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

    Revelation 12:7   And there was **war in heaven**: Michael and his angels fought against *the dragon*;
             **and the dragon fought and his angels**,

    Revelation 12:8   And prevailed not; neither was their place found *any more in heaven*.

    Revelation 12:9   And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent,
                      ****called the Devil, and Satan****,
    which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and *his angels* were cast out *with him*.

    RESTING: WHAT BIBLE TRANSLATION HAVE YOU GOT?
    ITS FULL OF CONTRADICTIONS PLEASE THIS IS SERIOUS.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    You can not see.

     What you believe of those scriptures keeps you blind to the truth.

    Res.


    Resting.

    You dont want to see scriptures that does not compromise with your doctrine.

    So I rest my case.

    wakeup.

    #363100
    Resting
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 03 2013,20:42)

    Quote (Resting @ Dec. 03 2013,13:33)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 03 2013,09:33)

    Quote (Resting @ Dec. 03 2013,07:50)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 02 2013,07:00)
    The fact is that God created satan(evil),
    and the evil angels. No one else,but God.
    God created lucifer good,yes; but *he also knew*
    that lucifer will be the *father of evil*.
    And *He also knew* that some angels will follow satan.
    The facts can not be changed,with excuses;like
    lucifer was good etc,etc.

    wakeup.


    God did not create satan evil.
       God created a spirit opposer.

    God did not create Lucifer , Lucifer was the King of Babylon.

    Satan was the father of lies and spiritual father of all liars.

    Satan is not an angel and no heavenly angels follow him, or ever did.

    Satan was never in Heaven.

    Res.


    Resting.

    Quote
    did not create satan evil.
       God created a spirit opposer.
    God did not create Lucifer , Lucifer was the King of Babylon.

    Isaiah 14:12   How art thou
    ***fallen from heaven***, *O Lucifer*, *son of the
          morning*!
    how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

                     ( LUCIFER FALLEN FROM HEAVEN)

     Isaiah 14:13   For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

    Isaiah 14:14   I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.LICIFER THE EX CHERUB=SATAN.

    Ezekiel 28:14   Thou art **the anointed cherub** that covereth; and **I have set thee so**: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

     Ezekiel 28:15   Thou *wast perfect* in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

    Quote
    Satan is not an angel and no heavenly angels follow him, or ever did.
    Satan was never in Heaven.

    Job 1:6   Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and *Satan came also* among them.

     Job 1:7   And the LORD said *unto Satan*, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

                        SATAN WAS IN HEAVEN

    SATAN IS THE KING OF BABYLON.
    BUT OF BABYLON THE GREAT (THE WORLD).

    SCRIPTURE:Daniel 4:37   Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and *honour the King of heaven*, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase.***(KING NEB CONVERTED)***.
    LUCIFER IS NOT KING NEB: HE IS AN EX CHERUB;IN HEAVEN
    CAST DOWN TO EARTH.

    Quote
    Satan is not an angel and no heavenly angels follow him, or ever did.

    .

    Revelation 12:3   And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great *red dragon*, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

     Revelation 12:4   And
      **his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven**,
    and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

    Revelation 12:7   And there was **war in heaven**: Michael and his angels fought against *the dragon*;
             **and the dragon fought and his angels**,

    Revelation 12:8   And prevailed not; neither was their place found *any more in heaven*.

    Revelation 12:9   And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent,
                      ****called the Devil, and Satan****,
    which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and *his angels* were cast out *with him*.

    RESTING: WHAT BIBLE TRANSLATION HAVE YOU GOT?
    ITS FULL OF CONTRADICTIONS PLEASE THIS IS SERIOUS.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    You can not see.

     What you believe of those scriptures keeps you blind to the truth.

    Res.


    Resting.

    You dont want to see scriptures that does not compromise with your doctrine.

    So I rest my case.

    wakeup.


    I did not say Lucifer was King Neb.

    You have little understanding and while you say you rest your case, you miss an opportunity to understand.

    Only the Lord can open the eyes of the blind and many before you read those scriptures and did not understand them, but you claim they need no interpretation except your own.

    Res.

    #363115
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Resting @ Dec. 04 2013,10:05)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 03 2013,20:42)

    Quote (Resting @ Dec. 03 2013,13:33)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 03 2013,09:33)

    Quote (Resting @ Dec. 03 2013,07:50)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 02 2013,07:00)
    The fact is that God created satan(evil),
    and the evil angels. No one else,but God.
    God created lucifer good,yes; but *he also knew*
    that lucifer will be the *father of evil*.
    And *He also knew* that some angels will follow satan.
    The facts can not be changed,with excuses;like
    lucifer was good etc,etc.

    wakeup.


    God did not create satan evil.
       God created a spirit opposer.

    God did not create Lucifer , Lucifer was the King of Babylon.

    Satan was the father of lies and spiritual father of all liars.

    Satan is not an angel and no heavenly angels follow him, or ever did.

    Satan was never in Heaven.

    Res.


    Resting.

    Quote
    did not create satan evil.
       God created a spirit opposer.
    God did not create Lucifer , Lucifer was the King of Babylon.

    Isaiah 14:12   How art thou
    ***fallen from heaven***, *O Lucifer*, *son of the
          morning*!
    how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

                     ( LUCIFER FALLEN FROM HEAVEN)

     Isaiah 14:13   For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

    Isaiah 14:14   I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.LICIFER THE EX CHERUB=SATAN.

    Ezekiel 28:14   Thou art **the anointed cherub** that covereth; and **I have set thee so**: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

     Ezekiel 28:15   Thou *wast perfect* in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

    Quote
    Satan is not an angel and no heavenly angels follow him, or ever did.
    Satan was never in Heaven.

    Job 1:6   Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and *Satan came also* among them.

     Job 1:7   And the LORD said *unto Satan*, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

                        SATAN WAS IN HEAVEN

    SATAN IS THE KING OF BABYLON.
    BUT OF BABYLON THE GREAT (THE WORLD).

    SCRIPTURE:Daniel 4:37   Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and *honour the King of heaven*, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase.***(KING NEB CONVERTED)***.
    LUCIFER IS NOT KING NEB: HE IS AN EX CHERUB;IN HEAVEN
    CAST DOWN TO EARTH.

    Quote
    Satan is not an angel and no heavenly angels follow him, or ever did.

    .

    Revelation 12:3   And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great *red dragon*, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

     Revelation 12:4   And
      **his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven**,
    and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

    Revelation 12:7   And there was **war in heaven**: Michael and his angels fought against *the dragon*;
             **and the dragon fought and his angels**,

    Revelation 12:8   And prevailed not; neither was their place found *any more in heaven*.

    Revelation 12:9   And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent,
                      ****called the Devil, and Satan****,
    which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and *his angels* were cast out *with him*.

    RESTING: WHAT BIBLE TRANSLATION HAVE YOU GOT?
    ITS FULL OF CONTRADICTIONS PLEASE THIS IS SERIOUS.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    You can not see.

     What you believe of those scriptures keeps you blind to the truth.

    Res.


    Resting.

    You dont want to see scriptures that does not compromise with your doctrine.

    So I rest my case.

    wakeup.


    I did not say Lucifer was King Neb.

    You have little understanding and while you say you rest your case, you miss an opportunity to understand.

    Only the Lord can open the eyes of the blind and many before you read those scriptures and did not understand them, but you claim they need no interpretation except your own.

    Res.


    Resting.

    You said lucifer was the king of babylon
    but you were not clear which babylon.

    Quote
    .
    God did not create satan evil.
    God created a spirit opposer.
    God did not create Lucifer , Lucifer was the King of Babylon.

    .

    So be more positive;who is this spirit opposer?

    wakeup.

    #363194
    Resting
    Participant

    Wakeup,

    In order to get the truth out of those verses, we need to get our symbols right.

    Stars do not represent Heavenly angels.

    The sons of God always speak of men.

    Lucifer means morning star.

    Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
    Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
    Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

    Michael represents Christ and his power.

    The angels of both the dragon and Michael are prophets.
    The place in heaven is among the saints here.

    Jesus beheld satan fall like lightning from heaven when his disciples preached the coming Kingdom and cast out devils and healed the sick.

    It has nothing to do with a supposed angel rebelling in the Heaven and being cast out.

    That should be enough for you to seek the Lord about.

    Res.

    #363204
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Resting @ Dec. 05 2013,08:37)
    Wakeup,

    In order to get the truth out of those verses, we need to get our symbols right.

    Stars do not represent Heavenly angels.

    The sons of God always speak of men.

    Lucifer means morning star.

    Rev 12:7  And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
    Rev 12:8  And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
    Rev 12:9  And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

    Michael represents Christ and his power.

    The angels of both the dragon and Michael are prophets.
    The place in heaven is among the saints here.

    Jesus beheld satan fall like lightning from heaven when his disciples preached the coming Kingdom and cast out devils and healed the sick.

    It has nothing to do with a supposed angel rebelling in the Heaven and being cast out.

    That should be enough for you to seek the Lord about.

    Res.

     

     


    Resting.

    Quote

    In order to get the truth out of those verses, we need to get our symbols right.
    Stars do not represent Heavenly angels.

    Revelation 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded,
    ***and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth***:
    and to ***him*** was given *the key*
    of the bottomless pit.
    (HIM=ANGEL).

    Revelation 9:2 ***And **HE** opened the bottomless
    pit***;
    and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
    HE=THE ANGEL

    Revelation 12:4 ***And his tail drew the third part of the
    *stars* of heaven, and did cast them to the
    earth***:
    and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
    THE DRAGON DREW A THIRD PART OF THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN DOWN TO EARTH.
    A THIRD PART OF THE STARS=A THIRD OF THE ANGELS.

    Quote

    The sons of God always speak of men.
    Lucifer means morning star.

    .

    Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.
    ***I am the root and the offspring of David, and ***
    the bright and *morning star***.
    SATAN IS NOT THE BRIGHT MORNING STAR:
    BUT THE LORD JESUS IS THE BRIGHT AND MORNING STAR.
    THE LATE JEWISH RABIES HAVE MANIPULATED THE TRANSLATIONS,AND THEY ARE ANTICHRISTS.

    LUCIFER MEANS LIGHT BEARER;NOT MORNING STAR.
    THEY HAVE TWISTED THE WORDS FOR OWN GAIN.
    THEY ARE THE ANTICHRISTS IN CHARGE OF THE TRANSLATIONS.THE FOX IN CHARGE OF THE CHICKENS.

    Quote

    Michael represents Christ and his power.
    The angels of both the dragon and Michael are prophets.
    The place in heaven is among the saints here.


    SCRIPTURE PLEASE:

    MICHAEL IS JUST ONE OF THE CHIEF ANGELS.
    THERE ARE FOUR CHIEF ANGELS.
    MICHA'EL;RAPHA'EL;GABRIE'EL; PHANU'EL.
    ANGELS ARE NO PROPHETS;BUT MESSENGERS.
    THE PROPHETS ARE UNTILL JOHN:

    Quote

    Jesus beheld satan fall like lightning from heaven when his disciples preached the coming Kingdom and cast out devils and healed the sick.
    It has nothing to do with a supposed angel rebelling in the Heaven and being cast out.

    THERE WAS A REAL WAR IN HEAVEN TO CLEANSED HEAVEN OF THOSE EVIL ANGELS. AND THEY WERE CAST *IN* THE EARTH; NOT ON THE EARTH.
    EVERY SINGLE CHRISTIAN IS SPIRITUALLY AT WAR AGAINST TEMPTATIONS OF THE DEVIL. THIS IS NOT AN ARMIE OF CHRISTIANS AT WAR PHYSICALLY.

    wakeup.

    #363214
    Resting
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 05 2013,10:21)

    Quote (Resting @ Dec. 05 2013,08:37)
    Wakeup,

    In order to get the truth out of those verses, we need to get our symbols right.

    Stars do not represent Heavenly angels.

    The sons of God always speak of men.

    Lucifer means morning star.

    Rev 12:7  And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
    Rev 12:8  And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
    Rev 12:9  And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

    Michael represents Christ and his power.

    The angels of both the dragon and Michael are prophets.
    The place in heaven is among the saints here.

    Jesus beheld satan fall like lightning from heaven when his disciples preached the coming Kingdom and cast out devils and healed the sick.

    It has nothing to do with a supposed angel rebelling in the Heaven and being cast out.

    That should be enough for you to seek the Lord about.

    Res.

     

     


    Resting.

    Quote

    In order to get the truth out of those verses, we need to get our symbols right.
    Stars do not represent Heavenly angels.

     Revelation 9:1   And the fifth angel sounded,
      ***and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth***:
          and to ***him*** was given *the key*
                   of the bottomless pit.
                       (HIM=ANGEL).

    Revelation 9:2   ***And **HE** opened the bottomless
                                   pit***;
    and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
                                HE=THE ANGEL

    Revelation 12:4   ***And his tail drew the third part of the
               *stars* of heaven, and did cast them to the
                 earth***:
    and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
    THE DRAGON DREW A THIRD PART OF THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN DOWN TO EARTH.
    A THIRD PART OF THE STARS=A THIRD OF THE ANGELS.

    Quote

    The sons of God always speak of men.
    Lucifer means morning star.

    .

    Revelation 22:16   I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.
     ***I am the root and the offspring of David, and ***
          the bright and *morning star***.
    SATAN IS NOT THE BRIGHT MORNING STAR:
    BUT THE LORD JESUS IS THE BRIGHT AND MORNING STAR.
    THE LATE JEWISH RABIES HAVE MANIPULATED THE TRANSLATIONS,AND THEY ARE ANTICHRISTS.

    LUCIFER MEANS LIGHT BEARER;NOT MORNING STAR.
    THEY HAVE TWISTED THE WORDS FOR OWN GAIN.
    THEY ARE THE ANTICHRISTS IN CHARGE OF THE TRANSLATIONS.THE FOX IN CHARGE OF THE CHICKENS.  

    Quote

    Michael represents Christ and his power.
    The angels of both the dragon and Michael are prophets.
    The place in heaven is among the saints here.


    SCRIPTURE PLEASE:

    MICHAEL IS JUST ONE OF THE CHIEF ANGELS.
    THERE ARE FOUR CHIEF ANGELS.
    MICHA'EL;RAPHA'EL;GABRIE'EL; PHANU'EL.
    ANGELS ARE NO PROPHETS;BUT MESSENGERS.
    THE PROPHETS ARE UNTILL JOHN:

    Quote

    Jesus beheld satan fall like lightning from heaven when his disciples preached the coming Kingdom and cast out devils and healed the sick.
    It has nothing to do with a supposed angel rebelling in the Heaven and being cast out.

    THERE WAS A REAL WAR IN HEAVEN TO CLEANSED HEAVEN OF THOSE EVIL ANGELS. AND THEY WERE CAST *IN* THE EARTH;  NOT ON THE EARTH.
    EVERY SINGLE CHRISTIAN IS SPIRITUALLY AT WAR AGAINST TEMPTATIONS OF THE DEVIL. THIS IS NOT AN ARMIE OF CHRISTIANS AT WAR PHYSICALLY.

    wakeup.


    Quote
     Revelation 9:1   And the fifth angel sounded,
      ***and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth***:
          and to ***him*** was given *the key*
                   of the bottomless pit.
                       (HIM=ANGEL).

    No.

    Some men are as shining lights to the world. The Pope is that as well as is Obama to many.

    Quote
    Revelation 9:2   ***And **HE** opened the bottomless
                                   pit***;
    and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
                                HE=THE ANGEL

    The man who falls from his lofty position was a leading light in the fallen churches and his judgment extends to the flocks but he returns to his persecuting mode from where he came.

    Rev 8:10  And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;

    Quote
    Revelation 12:4   ***And his tail drew the third part of the
               *stars* of heaven, and did cast them to the
                 earth***:
    and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
    THE DRAGON DREW A THIRD PART OF THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN DOWN TO EARTH.
    A THIRD PART OF THE STARS=A THIRD OF THE ANGELS.

    This is a future event.  The third part is always the churches.

    The tail of the dragon is the false prophets who deceive the church prophets but Christ and His strong prophets kick the false prophets out of God's church company (kingdom on earth)

    Quote
    Revelation 22:16   I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.
     ***I am the root and the offspring of David, and ***
          the bright and *morning star***.
    SATAN IS NOT THE BRIGHT MORNING STAR:
    BUT THE LO
    RD JESUS IS THE BRIGHT AND MORNING STAR.
    THE LATE JEWISH RABIES HAVE MANIPULATED THE TRANSLATIONS,AND THEY ARE ANTICHRISTS.

    LUCIFER MEANS LIGHT BEARER;NOT MORNING STAR.
    THEY HAVE TWISTED THE WORDS FOR OWN GAIN.
    THEY ARE THE ANTICHRISTS IN CHARGE OF THE TRANSLATIONS.THE FOX IN CHARGE OF THE CHICKENS.  

    Satan was a liar from the beginning. Satan was never a light bearer or morning star.

    Quote
    MICHAEL IS JUST ONE OF THE CHIEF ANGELS.
    THERE ARE FOUR CHIEF ANGELS.
    MICHA'EL;RAPHA'EL;GABRIE'EL; PHANU'EL.
    ANGELS ARE NO PROPHETS;BUT MESSENGERS.
    THE PROPHETS ARE UNTILL JOHN:

    Act 15:32  And Judas and Silas, being prophets also themselves, exhorted the brethren with many words, and confirmed them.

    Quote
    THERE WAS A REAL WAR IN HEAVEN TO CLEANSED HEAVEN OF THOSE EVIL ANGELS. AND THEY WERE CAST *IN* THE EARTH;  NOT ON THE EARTH.
    EVERY SINGLE CHRISTIAN IS SPIRITUALLY AT WAR AGAINST TEMPTATIONS OF THE DEVIL. THIS IS NOT AN ARMIE OF CHRISTIANS AT WAR PHYSICALLY.

    wakeup.

    That is so wrong.

    Nothing can rebel in Heaven nor ever did.

    Satan was a liar from the beginning and is the spirit of this age.

    Satan is not an angel and never was.

    Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (as if from God) in the minds of the men.

    What security is there in Heaven if angels can rebel there, and why not men too.

    You have swallowed the words of the world as if they bare truth.

    You need to seek God more and rely less on your personal beliefs.

    Have you ever obeyed Acts 2:38?

    Act 2:37  Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
    Act 2:38  Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
    Act 2:39  For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

    Res.

    #363215
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Resting @ Dec. 05 2013,11:53)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 05 2013,10:21)

    Quote (Resting @ Dec. 05 2013,08:37)
    Wakeup,

    In order to get the truth out of those verses, we need to get our symbols right.

    Stars do not represent Heavenly angels.

    The sons of God always speak of men.

    Lucifer means morning star.

    Rev 12:7  And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
    Rev 12:8  And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
    Rev 12:9  And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

    Michael represents Christ and his power.

    The angels of both the dragon and Michael are prophets.
    The place in heaven is among the saints here.

    Jesus beheld satan fall like lightning from heaven when his disciples preached the coming Kingdom and cast out devils and healed the sick.

    It has nothing to do with a supposed angel rebelling in the Heaven and being cast out.

    That should be enough for you to seek the Lord about.

    Res.

     

     


    Resting.

    Quote

    In order to get the truth out of those verses, we need to get our symbols right.
    Stars do not represent Heavenly angels.

     Revelation 9:1   And the fifth angel sounded,
      ***and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth***:
          and to ***him*** was given *the key*
                   of the bottomless pit.
                       (HIM=ANGEL).

    Revelation 9:2   ***And **HE** opened the bottomless
                                   pit***;
    and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
                                HE=THE ANGEL

    Revelation 12:4   ***And his tail drew the third part of the
               *stars* of heaven, and did cast them to the
                 earth***:
    and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
    THE DRAGON DREW A THIRD PART OF THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN DOWN TO EARTH.
    A THIRD PART OF THE STARS=A THIRD OF THE ANGELS.

    Quote

    The sons of God always speak of men.
    Lucifer means morning star.

    .

    Revelation 22:16   I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.
     ***I am the root and the offspring of David, and ***
          the bright and *morning star***.
    SATAN IS NOT THE BRIGHT MORNING STAR:
    BUT THE LORD JESUS IS THE BRIGHT AND MORNING STAR.
    THE LATE JEWISH RABIES HAVE MANIPULATED THE TRANSLATIONS,AND THEY ARE ANTICHRISTS.

    LUCIFER MEANS LIGHT BEARER;NOT MORNING STAR.
    THEY HAVE TWISTED THE WORDS FOR OWN GAIN.
    THEY ARE THE ANTICHRISTS IN CHARGE OF THE TRANSLATIONS.THE FOX IN CHARGE OF THE CHICKENS.  

    Quote

    Michael represents Christ and his power.
    The angels of both the dragon and Michael are prophets.
    The place in heaven is among the saints here.


    SCRIPTURE PLEASE:

    MICHAEL IS JUST ONE OF THE CHIEF ANGELS.
    THERE ARE FOUR CHIEF ANGELS.
    MICHA'EL;RAPHA'EL;GABRIE'EL; PHANU'EL.
    ANGELS ARE NO PROPHETS;BUT MESSENGERS.
    THE PROPHETS ARE UNTILL JOHN:

    Quote

    Jesus beheld satan fall like lightning from heaven when his disciples preached the coming Kingdom and cast out devils and healed the sick.
    It has nothing to do with a supposed angel rebelling in the Heaven and being cast out.

    THERE WAS A REAL WAR IN HEAVEN TO CLEANSED HEAVEN OF THOSE EVIL ANGELS. AND THEY WERE CAST *IN* THE EARTH;  NOT ON THE EARTH.
    EVERY SINGLE CHRISTIAN IS SPIRITUALLY AT WAR AGAINST TEMPTATIONS OF THE DEVIL. THIS IS NOT AN ARMIE OF CHRISTIANS AT WAR PHYSICALLY.

    wakeup.


    Quote
     Revelation 9:1   And the fifth angel sounded,
      ***and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth***:
          and to ***him*** was given *the key*
                   of the bottomless pit.
                       (HIM=ANGEL).

    No.

    Some men are as shining lights to the world. The Pope is that as well as is Obama to many.

    Quote
    Revelation 9:2   ***And **HE** opened the bottomless
                                   pit***;
    and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
                                HE=THE ANGEL

    The man who falls from his lofty position was a leading light in the fallen churches and his judgment extends to the flocks but he returns to his persecuting mode from where he came.

    Rev 8:10  And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;

    Quote
    Revelation 12:4   ***And his tail drew the third part of the
               *stars* of heaven, and did cast them to the
                 earth***:
    and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
    THE DRAGON DREW A THIRD PART OF THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN DOWN TO EARTH.
    A THIRD PART OF THE STARS=A THIRD OF THE ANGELS.

    This is a future event.  The third part is always the churches.

    The tail of the dragon is the false prophets who deceive the church prophets but Christ and His strong prophets kick the false prophets out of God's church company (kingdom on earth)

    Quote
    Revelation 22:16   I Jesus have sent m
    ine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.
     ***I am the root and the offspring of David, and ***
          the bright and *morning star***.
    SATAN IS NOT THE BRIGHT MORNING STAR:
    BUT THE LORD JESUS IS THE BRIGHT AND MORNING STAR.
    THE LATE JEWISH RABIES HAVE MANIPULATED THE TRANSLATIONS,AND THEY ARE ANTICHRISTS.

    LUCIFER MEANS LIGHT BEARER;NOT MORNING STAR.
    THEY HAVE TWISTED THE WORDS FOR OWN GAIN.
    THEY ARE THE ANTICHRISTS IN CHARGE OF THE TRANSLATIONS.THE FOX IN CHARGE OF THE CHICKENS.  

    Satan was a liar from the beginning. Satan was never a light bearer or morning star.

    Quote
    MICHAEL IS JUST ONE OF THE CHIEF ANGELS.
    THERE ARE FOUR CHIEF ANGELS.
    MICHA'EL;RAPHA'EL;GABRIE'EL; PHANU'EL.
    ANGELS ARE NO PROPHETS;BUT MESSENGERS.
    THE PROPHETS ARE UNTILL JOHN:

    Act 15:32  And Judas and Silas, being prophets also themselves, exhorted the brethren with many words, and confirmed them.

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    THERE WAS A REAL WAR IN HEAVEN TO CLEANSED HEAVEN OF THOSE EVIL ANGELS. AND THEY WERE CAST *IN* THE EARTH;  NOT ON THE EARTH.
    EVERY SINGLE CHRISTIAN IS SPIRITUALLY AT WAR AGAINST TEMPTATIONS OF THE DEVIL. THIS IS NOT AN ARMIE OF CHRISTIANS AT WAR PHYSICALLY.

    wakeup.

    That is so wrong.

    Nothing can rebel in Heaven nor ever did.

    Satan was a liar from the beginning and is the spirit of this age.

    Satan is not an angel and never was.

    Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (as if from God) in the minds of the men.

    What security is there in Heaven if angels can rebel there, and why not men too.

    You have swallowed the words of the world as if they bare truth.

    You need to seek God more and rely less on your personal beliefs.

    Have you ever obeyed Acts 2:38?

    Act 2:37  Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
    Act 2:38  Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
    Act 2:39  For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

    Res.


    Resting.

    Please clarify who and what is/are:

    1.Lucifer.
    2.The morning star.
    3.The Son of the morning.
    4.The dragon
    5.The fallen angels.
    6.The God of this world.
    7.The false prophet.
    8.The son of perdition.
    9.The red dragon with 7 heads.
    10. The woman whore.
    11.Satan.
    12.The serpent in the garden.
    13.Who wants to be like God.
    14.The 7 heads.

    wakeup.

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    journey42
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    Wakeup

    Isaiah 28:1   Woe to the crown of pride, to the drunkards of Ephraim, whose glorious beauty is a fading flower, which are on the head of the fat valleys of them that are overcome with wine!

    Keep up the good work.  They hate it when you give them scripture.  
    You gave direct scripture proving that nearly everything he said was incorrect.
    Wakeup, you take it and take it and take it.  You keep explaining so calm.  You're a loaded bullet, no blanks there, and they spin a web for themselves only to get caught.

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