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- November 18, 2013 at 4:31 am#362241RestingParticipant
wakeup.[/quote]
Quote The 1000yr kingdom. Revelation 21:16 ***And the city lieth foursquare***,
and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, ***twelve thousand furlongs***.
The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
about 2240 km in length breadth,and hight.
No fly zone to satans angels.wakeup.
Yes the Heavenly City is so described but the measurements are angelic in nature not 2240K in length.
144000 is 12×12 thousand where thousand is the number for the perfect by resurrection.
Res.
November 18, 2013 at 5:45 am#362242terrariccaParticipantResting
You have fund an good man to discuss ,in wakeup,
So I say good by now,
November 18, 2013 at 9:13 am#362247RestingParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Nov. 18 2013,15:45) Resting You have fund an good man to discuss ,in wakeup,
So I say good by now,
Ok,We might get to talk about something in the future.
Res.
November 18, 2013 at 12:14 pm#362248WakeupParticipantQuote (Resting @ Nov. 18 2013,14:31) wakeup.[/quote] Quote The 1000yr kingdom. Revelation 21:16 ***And the city lieth foursquare***,
and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, ***twelve thousand furlongs***.
The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
about 2240 km in length breadth,and hight.
No fly zone to satans angels.wakeup.
Yes the Heavenly City is so described but the measurements are angelic in nature not 2240K in length.
144000 is 12×12 thousand where thousand is the number for the perfect by resurrection.
Res.
Resting.Revelation 21:17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits,
***according to the measure of a man***,
that is, of the angel.The angel did the measuring,using mans measure.
The walls are invisible,to keep the gentiles and the fallen angels out.wakeup.
November 18, 2013 at 8:20 pm#362262RestingParticipantNeither The Heavenly Jerusalem or the new Jerusalem is a Jewish identity.
Children are playing in the streets of the restored Jerusalem of stone and people, but the Heavenly Jerusalem is exclusively the habitation of the saints with Christ, and Psalms gives it as being on the side of the north, and Gods furnace is in it, not children playing.
Rev 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
Rev 21:11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;Rev 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
Rev 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
Rev 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.Res.
November 19, 2013 at 4:47 am#362281WakeupParticipantRESTING.
Children are playing in the streets of the restored Jerusalem of stone and people,
AGREE, THOSE ARE CHILDREN IN THE KINGDOM ON EARTH.
but the Heavenly Jerusalem is exclusively the habitation of the saints with Christ, and Psalms gives it as being on the side of the north, and Gods furnace is in it, not children playing.
THE RESURRECTED SAINTS HAVE INHERITED EVERYTHING.
THEY CAN DWELL IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH.Rev 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
Rev 21:11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;THIS IS HEAVENLY JERUSALEM.
Rev 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
Rev 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.STILL THE HEAVENLY JERUSALEM.
Rev 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
THIS IS THE KINGDOM ON EARTH,BECAUSE THERE ARE KINGS OF THE EARTH BRINGING IN THEIR GLORY AND HONOUR.
wakeup.
November 21, 2013 at 5:38 am#362370RestingParticipantWakeup,
There is only one Kingdom of God.
People are entering the Kingdom of God today while still on earth.
Res.
November 21, 2013 at 6:50 am#362371journey42ParticipantQuote (Resting @ Nov. 21 2013,15:38) Wakeup, There is only one Kingdom of God.
People are entering the Kingdom of God today while still on earth.
Res.
Resting,Children are not playing safely in the streets now.
I am a christian and I don't let my children out by themselves.
I trust in the Lord, but I don't tempt fate. Times have changed.
Christian men are not living to 100 yrs old. Christian men are still dying of cancer, and getting strokes etc. The lion is not eating straw, but meat, and the wolf is not lying with the lamb. The poor christians are still oppressed, and those that know the scriptures know that harder times are coming and finally expect to be beheaded. How can you say there is peace? If this is the kingdom that Christ promised, then it is a different Christ ruling now, and not the one that promised a safe haven.We know we have protection in Christ now, but we also know the prophesies and what's to come.
November 21, 2013 at 9:01 am#362381RestingParticipantQuote (journey42 @ Nov. 21 2013,16:50) Quote (Resting @ Nov. 21 2013,15:38) Wakeup, There is only one Kingdom of God.
People are entering the Kingdom of God today while still on earth.
Res.
Resting,Children are not playing safely in the streets now.
I am a christian and I don't let my children out by themselves.
I trust in the Lord, but I don't tempt fate. Times have changed.
Christian men are not living to 100 yrs old. Christian men are still dying of cancer, and getting strokes etc. The lion is not eating straw, but meat, and the wolf is not lying with the lamb. The poor christians are still oppressed, and those that know the scriptures know that harder times are coming and finally expect to be beheaded. How can you say there is peace? If this is the kingdom that Christ promised, then it is a different Christ ruling now, and not the one that promised a safe haven.We know we have protection in Christ now, but we also know the prophesies and what's to come.
I take it you do not believe there is one Kingdom of God and people are entering into it today.Res.
November 21, 2013 at 12:09 pm#362382WakeupParticipantQuote (Resting @ Nov. 21 2013,19:01) Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 21 2013,16:50) Quote (Resting @ Nov. 21 2013,15:38) Wakeup, There is only one Kingdom of God.
People are entering the Kingdom of God today while still on earth.
Res.
Resting,Children are not playing safely in the streets now.
I am a christian and I don't let my children out by themselves.
I trust in the Lord, but I don't tempt fate. Times have changed.
Christian men are not living to 100 yrs old. Christian men are still dying of cancer, and getting strokes etc. The lion is not eating straw, but meat, and the wolf is not lying with the lamb. The poor christians are still oppressed, and those that know the scriptures know that harder times are coming and finally expect to be beheaded. How can you say there is peace? If this is the kingdom that Christ promised, then it is a different Christ ruling now, and not the one that promised a safe haven.We know we have protection in Christ now, but we also know the prophesies and what's to come.
I take it you do not believe there is one Kingdom of God and people are entering into it today.Res.
Resting.Do you know the Lords prayer?
Thy kingdom come(is coming) thy will be done on earth as in heaven.(God's will is not done yet,but will soon).God's kingdom will be set up; soon after the coming.
People are not entering the kingdom right now.
Must be set up first.
You have got it all mixed up.
There are people having a renewing of the mind.
Those are the potential resurrected ones.
They *WILL* rule with Christ. They are not ruling yet.
Besides: God said: the land is desolate.
Many are called,but a few chosen.
Narrow is the way: not broad is the way.wakeup.
November 21, 2013 at 12:22 pm#362384journey42ParticipantQuote (Resting @ Nov. 21 2013,19:01) Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 21 2013,16:50) Quote (Resting @ Nov. 21 2013,15:38) Wakeup, There is only one Kingdom of God.
People are entering the Kingdom of God today while still on earth.
Res.
Resting,Children are not playing safely in the streets now.
I am a christian and I don't let my children out by themselves.
I trust in the Lord, but I don't tempt fate. Times have changed.
Christian men are not living to 100 yrs old. Christian men are still dying of cancer, and getting strokes etc. The lion is not eating straw, but meat, and the wolf is not lying with the lamb. The poor christians are still oppressed, and those that know the scriptures know that harder times are coming and finally expect to be beheaded. How can you say there is peace? If this is the kingdom that Christ promised, then it is a different Christ ruling now, and not the one that promised a safe haven.We know we have protection in Christ now, but we also know the prophesies and what's to come.
I take it you do not believe there is one Kingdom of God and people are entering into it today.Res.
Resting,We are only in the running now and if we follow the Lamb of God and hear his instructions, ….and do it joyfully, then we already spiritually enter that kingdom,
….but first the kingdom has to be cleaned out of all that has contaminated it, then the Physical Kingdom has to be set up
……..so ALL can see it's glory.November 23, 2013 at 10:52 am#362510WakeupParticipantQuote (journey42 @ Nov. 21 2013,22:22) Quote (Resting @ Nov. 21 2013,19:01) Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 21 2013,16:50) Quote (Resting @ Nov. 21 2013,15:38) Wakeup, There is only one Kingdom of God.
People are entering the Kingdom of God today while still on earth.
Res.
Resting,Children are not playing safely in the streets now.
I am a christian and I don't let my children out by themselves.
I trust in the Lord, but I don't tempt fate. Times have changed.
Christian men are not living to 100 yrs old. Christian men are still dying of cancer, and getting strokes etc. The lion is not eating straw, but meat, and the wolf is not lying with the lamb. The poor christians are still oppressed, and those that know the scriptures know that harder times are coming and finally expect to be beheaded. How can you say there is peace? If this is the kingdom that Christ promised, then it is a different Christ ruling now, and not the one that promised a safe haven.We know we have protection in Christ now, but we also know the prophesies and what's to come.
I take it you do not believe there is one Kingdom of God and people are entering into it today.Res.
Resting,We are only in the running now and if we follow the Lamb of God and hear his instructions, ….and do it joyfully, then we already spiritually enter that kingdom,
….but first the kingdom has to be cleaned out of all that has contaminated it, then the Physical Kingdom has to be set up
……..so ALL can see it's glory.
J42.Yes: We are now labouring hard to get into that kingdom to come.
The flesh of Christ we eat everyday, builds up inside us
and that is life.And the spirit will lead us into doing the good works.
If we dont eat the flesh of Christ; we dont have life.
Eating junk food does not give life,but brings in confusion
of the mind.
Babylon means confusion,and there is a lot of it today.
Comeout of her/confusion my people,so you dont receive her plagues. Enter spiritually into Zion,the city of God,where all the God fearing dwell.The great city Babylon is satan's city where all the people
dwell ,because of all her delicacies,and pleasures,and the lust of the flesh,and the greed that can not be controlled.
Be ye not of the world,for you are a peculiar people.Many Christians believe that Chris's kingdom is in Babylon.
Christ and his saints ruling now amongst confusion.
But not realising that the falling away is coming,and is come.
The false prophet is about to rule,not Christ.All are in confusion,babylon must be destroyed first,and then the kingdom set up. satan is responsible for all the wars and miseries. He is not innocent; being in prison,as they are trying to *excuse* him from all his evil works during the years.
We know that he is the *GUILTY* one. He was not absent during the two thousand years.He was free and is still free doing his evil works as usual.We must watch for them that are trying *to excuse* satan from his evil works done on this earth. He is trying to excuse himself by inspiring lies.
We know that he is *the quilty one* up to now and will be to the coming of our Lord,and judged,and put in prison.wakeup.
November 23, 2013 at 4:52 pm#362515terrariccaParticipantw
Quote We must watch for them that are trying *to excuse* satan from his evil works done on this earth. He is trying to excuse himself by inspiring lies.
We know that he is *the quilty one* up to now and will be to the coming of our Lord,and judged,and put in prison.you said that it is God that produces EVIL now you say it is not him ,are you confused
November 23, 2013 at 6:06 pm#362522WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Nov. 24 2013,02:52) w Quote We must watch for them that are trying *to excuse* satan from his evil works done on this earth. He is trying to excuse himself by inspiring lies.
We know that he is *the quilty one* up to now and will be to the coming of our Lord,and judged,and put in prison.you said that it is God that produces EVIL now you say it is not him ,are you confused
T.Here is some knowledge:
God is not satan,incase you dont know that.
But he is the one that created the axe/satan,the destroyer.
And no one else.
*Without Him* was not *anything* made that was made.
And that includes satan,and his angels.
But God is in control of all things;therefore responsible.wakeup.
November 30, 2013 at 2:23 pm#362866terrariccaParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Nov. 23 2013,23:06) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 24 2013,02:52) w Quote We must watch for them that are trying *to excuse* satan from his evil works done on this earth. He is trying to excuse himself by inspiring lies.
We know that he is *the quilty one* up to now and will be to the coming of our Lord,and judged,and put in prison.you said that it is God that produces EVIL now you say it is not him ,are you confused
T.Here is some knowledge:
God is not satan,incase you dont know that.
But he is the one that created the axe/satan,the destroyer.
And no one else.
*Without Him* was not *anything* made that was made.
And that includes satan,and his angels.
But God is in control of all things;therefore responsible.wakeup.
wakeupQuote But he is the one that created the axe/satan,the destroyer.
And no one else.you still try to protect your kjv faulty version :and no God did not created EVIL ,
but it seems to me you support the evil one BY DECLARING THAT GOD AS CREATED EVIL ,YOU HAVE NOT THE SAME GOD THAN I HAVE AND WORSHIP ,MY GOD IS A LOVING GOD,
November 30, 2013 at 3:02 pm#362867WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2013,00:23) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 23 2013,23:06) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 24 2013,02:52) w Quote We must watch for them that are trying *to excuse* satan from his evil works done on this earth. He is trying to excuse himself by inspiring lies.
We know that he is *the quilty one* up to now and will be to the coming of our Lord,and judged,and put in prison.you said that it is God that produces EVIL now you say it is not him ,are you confused
T.Here is some knowledge:
God is not satan,incase you dont know that.
But he is the one that created the axe/satan,the destroyer.
And no one else.
*Without Him* was not *anything* made that was made.
And that includes satan,and his angels.
But God is in control of all things;therefore responsible.wakeup.
wakeupQuote But he is the one that created the axe/satan,the destroyer.
And no one else.you still try to protect your kjv faulty version :and no God did not created EVIL ,
but it seems to me you support the evil one BY DECLARING THAT GOD AS CREATED EVIL ,YOU HAVE NOT THE SAME GOD THAN I HAVE AND WORSHIP ,MY GOD IS A LOVING GOD,
Terra.Well; who creared satan then?
wakeup
December 1, 2013 at 3:29 am#362921terrariccaParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Nov. 30 2013,20:02) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2013,00:23) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 23 2013,23:06) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 24 2013,02:52) w Quote We must watch for them that are trying *to excuse* satan from his evil works done on this earth. He is trying to excuse himself by inspiring lies.
We know that he is *the quilty one* up to now and will be to the coming of our Lord,and judged,and put in prison.you said that it is God that produces EVIL now you say it is not him ,are you confused
T.Here is some knowledge:
God is not satan,incase you dont know that.
But he is the one that created the axe/satan,the destroyer.
And no one else.
*Without Him* was not *anything* made that was made.
And that includes satan,and his angels.
But God is in control of all things;therefore responsible.wakeup.
wakeupQuote But he is the one that created the axe/satan,the destroyer.
And no one else.you still try to protect your kjv faulty version :and no God did not created EVIL ,
but it seems to me you support the evil one BY DECLARING THAT GOD AS CREATED EVIL ,YOU HAVE NOT THE SAME GOD THAN I HAVE AND WORSHIP ,MY GOD IS A LOVING GOD,
Terra.Well; who creared satan then?
wakeup
wakeSatan created himself ,just as all the wickeds do ,God give good teach good ,but some do not listen ,and use their free will to do their own ways
December 1, 2013 at 5:16 am#362928WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2013,13:29) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 30 2013,20:02) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2013,00:23) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 23 2013,23:06) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 24 2013,02:52) w Quote We must watch for them that are trying *to excuse* satan from his evil works done on this earth. He is trying to excuse himself by inspiring lies.
We know that he is *the quilty one* up to now and will be to the coming of our Lord,and judged,and put in prison.you said that it is God that produces EVIL now you say it is not him ,are you confused
T.Here is some knowledge:
God is not satan,incase you dont know that.
But he is the one that created the axe/satan,the destroyer.
And no one else.
*Without Him* was not *anything* made that was made.
And that includes satan,and his angels.
But God is in control of all things;therefore responsible.wakeup.
wakeupQuote But he is the one that created the axe/satan,the destroyer.
And no one else.you still try to protect your kjv faulty version :and no God did not created EVIL ,
but it seems to me you support the evil one BY DECLARING THAT GOD AS CREATED EVIL ,YOU HAVE NOT THE SAME GOD THAN I HAVE AND WORSHIP ,MY GOD IS A LOVING GOD,
Terra.Well; who creared satan then?
wakeup
wakeSatan created himself ,just as all the wickeds do ,God give good teach good ,but some do not listen ,and use their free will to do their own ways
Terra.Who created the axe?
Who created Lucifer?
Did God not know that he will be the rebel?
Did God not know that lucifer will be the father of sin?
Who created the great flood?wakeup.
December 1, 2013 at 5:34 am#362932terrariccaParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Dec. 01 2013,10:16) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2013,13:29) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 30 2013,20:02) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2013,00:23) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 23 2013,23:06) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 24 2013,02:52) w Quote We must watch for them that are trying *to excuse* satan from his evil works done on this earth. He is trying to excuse himself by inspiring lies.
We know that he is *the quilty one* up to now and will be to the coming of our Lord,and judged,and put in prison.you said that it is God that produces EVIL now you say it is not him ,are you confused
T.Here is some knowledge:
God is not satan,incase you dont know that.
But he is the one that created the axe/satan,the destroyer.
And no one else.
*Without Him* was not *anything* made that was made.
And that includes satan,and his angels.
But God is in control of all things;therefore responsible.wakeup.
wakeupQuote But he is the one that created the axe/satan,the destroyer.
And no one else.you still try to protect your kjv faulty version :and no God did not created EVIL ,
but it seems to me you support the evil one BY DECLARING THAT GOD AS CREATED EVIL ,YOU HAVE NOT THE SAME GOD THAN I HAVE AND WORSHIP ,MY GOD IS A LOVING GOD,
Terra.Well; who creared satan then?
wakeup
wakeSatan created himself ,just as all the wickeds do ,God give good teach good ,but some do not listen ,and use their free will to do their own ways
Terra.Who created the axe?
Who created Lucifer?
Did God not know that he will be the rebel?
Did God not know that lucifer will be the father of sin?
Who created the great flood?wakeup.
WWas it important to God to foresee Satan come out of one of his cherub
His it important to God to foresee all men that ever lived
All have be created with there free will, in choice,it does not matter to the creator but it should matter to each created being men or angel,
Because his welfare depended on it, all have ego,not all are like David or Christ and Paul and many others,we also facing this choice,it is not up to God to foreseen who will be faithful ,one thing is true if we chose to do God,s will and obey him then he will for sure help us ,otherwise we are left on are own and will pay the price for it,December 1, 2013 at 8:57 am#362935WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2013,15:34) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 01 2013,10:16) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2013,13:29) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 30 2013,20:02) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2013,00:23) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 23 2013,23:06) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 24 2013,02:52) w Quote We must watch for them that are trying *to excuse* satan from his evil works done on this earth. He is trying to excuse himself by inspiring lies.
We know that he is *the quilty one* up to now and will be to the coming of our Lord,and judged,and put in prison.you said that it is God that produces EVIL now you say it is not him ,are you confused
T.Here is some knowledge:
God is not satan,incase you dont know that.
But he is the one that created the axe/satan,the destroyer.
And no one else.
*Without Him* was not *anything* made that was made.
And that includes satan,and his angels.
But God is in control of all things;therefore responsible.wakeup.
wakeupQuote But he is the one that created the axe/satan,the destroyer.
And no one else.you still try to protect your kjv faulty version :and no God did not created EVIL ,
but it seems to me you support the evil one BY DECLARING THAT GOD AS CREATED EVIL ,YOU HAVE NOT THE SAME GOD THAN I HAVE AND WORSHIP ,MY GOD IS A LOVING GOD,
Terra.Well; who creared satan then?
wakeup
wakeSatan created himself ,just as all the wickeds do ,God give good teach good ,but some do not listen ,and use their free will to do their own ways
Terra.Who created the axe?
Who created Lucifer?
Did God not know that he will be the rebel?
Did God not know that lucifer will be the father of sin?
Who created the great flood?wakeup.
WWas it important to God to foresee Satan come out of one of his cherub
His it important to God to foresee all men that ever lived
All have be created with there free will, in choice,it does not matter to the creator but it should matter to each created being men or angel,
Because his welfare depended on it, all have ego,not all are like David or Christ and Paul and many others,we also facing this choice,it is not up to God to foreseen who will be faithful ,one thing is true if we chose to do God,s will and obey him then he will for sure help us ,otherwise we are left on are own and will pay the price for it,
T.Who created the great flood?
Was it a *good* flood before it became a *bad* flood?
And God said; whoops!! I didn't know that ,sorry people.
Who created the plagues in Egypt?
Was it suppose to be a *good* plague,but became *bad*?Your God is not in control.
Your doctrine; taught by men does not work.
You have to sleep with it.wakeup.
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