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[Ed J]

Hi Colter,

Was it not Jesus who told Paul to be his witness?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Hi Colter, Was it not Jesus who told Paul to be his witness? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

If Jesus came back down from heaven and told Paul to carry the gospel message, then Paul carried a different message.

Colter

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ July 19 2012,02:56)

Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2012,01:43) Hi Colter, Was it not Jesus who told Paul to be his witness? God bless Ed J If Jesus came back down from heaven and told Paul to carry the gospel message, then Paul carried a different message. Colter

Hi Colter,

Why do you say that?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Spock]

Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2012,03:00)

Quote (Colter @ July 19 2012,02:56) Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2012,01:43) Hi Colter, Was it not Jesus who told Paul to be his witness? God bless Ed J If Jesus came back down from heaven and told Paul to carry the gospel message, then Paul carried a different message. Colter Hi Colter, Why do you say that? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Jesus had a gospel 3+ years before the cross, atoning sacrifice was not the foundation of Jesus' gospel, and it’s the foundation of the Roman Pagan religion which adopted evolving Christianity.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ July 19 2012,04:38)

Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2012,03:00) Quote (Colter @ July 19 2012,02:56) Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2012,01:43) Hi Colter, Was it not Jesus who told Paul to be his witness? God bless Ed J If Jesus came back down from heaven and told Paul to carry the gospel message, then Paul carried a different message. Colter Hi Colter, Why do you say that? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Jesus had a gospel 3+ years before the cross, atoning sacrifice was not the foundation of Jesus' gospel, and it’s the foundation of the Roman Pagan religion which adopted evolving Christianity. Colter

Colter.

Mat.26:42. he went away again the second time,and prayed,saying: O MY FATHER,IF THIS CUP MAY NOT PASS AWAY FROM ME EXCEPT I DRINK IT,THY WILL BE DONE.
(red lettering).
It was Gods will: for him to be scrificed.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ July 20 2012,23:36)

Quote (Colter @ July 19 2012,04:38) Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2012,03:00) Quote (Colter @ July 19 2012,02:56) Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2012,01:43) Hi Colter, Was it not Jesus who told Paul to be his witness? God bless Ed J If Jesus came back down from heaven and told Paul to carry the gospel message, then Paul carried a different message. Colter Hi Colter, Why do you say that? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Jesus had a gospel 3+ years before the cross, atoning sacrifice was not the foundation of Jesus' gospel, and it’s the foundation of the Roman Pagan religion which adopted evolving Christianity. Colter Colter. Mat.26:42. he went away again the second time,and prayed,saying: O MY FATHER,IF THIS CUP MAY NOT PASS AWAY FROM ME EXCEPT I DRINK IT,THY WILL BE DONE. (red lettering). It was Gods will: for him to be scrificed. wakeup.

It was the will of the father for the creator Son to experience all that man experiences while subject to the Father will.. In the original gospel of Jesus taught that God was already a forgiving Father, that Love is unconditional. The Pagan Mystery religions had a sacrificed savior. Jesus spent his whole life doing Gods will and thus revealing the Father to mankind.

Christians support the betrayal by Judas, the unjust trial and the barbaric murder of an innocent man in order to complete Christian theology ; theoretical salvation. The salvation of Jesus was based on real spiritual transformation.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ July 21 2012,04:40)

Quote (Wakeup @ July 20 2012,23:36) Quote (Colter @ July 19 2012,04:38) Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2012,03:00) Quote (Colter @ July 19 2012,02:56) Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2012,01:43) Hi Colter, Was it not Jesus who told Paul to be his witness? God bless Ed J If Jesus came back down from heaven and told Paul to carry the gospel message, then Paul carried a different message. Colter Hi Colter, Why do you say that? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Jesus had a gospel 3+ years before the cross, atoning sacrifice was not the foundation of Jesus' gospel, and it’s the foundation of the Roman Pagan religion which adopted evolving Christianity. Colter Colter. Mat.26:42. he went away again the second time,and prayed,saying: O MY FATHER,IF THIS CUP MAY NOT PASS AWAY FROM ME EXCEPT I DRINK IT,THY WILL BE DONE. (red lettering). It was Gods will: for him to be scrificed. wakeup. It was the will of the father for the creator Son to experience all that man experiences while subject to the Father will.. In the original gospel of Jesus taught that God was already a forgiving Father, that Love is unconditional. The Pagan Mystery religions had a sacrificed savior. Jesus spent his whole life doing Gods will and thus revealing the Father to mankind. Christians support the betrayal by Judas, the unjust trial and the barbaric murder of an innocent man in order to complete Christian theology ; theoretical salvation. The salvation of Jesus was based on real spiritual transformation.

Colter.

Can you not see,that you have to twist scripture after scripture to the max,to make your doctrine look like its working?

But it wll not work,for God has written the scriptures in such a way that it can not be broken.

It is not working Colter.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ July 21 2012,06:08)

Quote (Colter @ July 21 2012,04:40) Quote (Wakeup @ July 20 2012,23:36) Quote (Colter @ July 19 2012,04:38) Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2012,03:00) Quote (Colter @ July 19 2012,02:56) Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2012,01:43) Hi Colter, Was it not Jesus who told Paul to be his witness? God bless Ed J If Jesus came back down from heaven and told Paul to carry the gospel message, then Paul carried a different message. Colter Hi Colter, Why do you say that? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Jesus had a gospel 3+ years before the cross, atoning sacrifice was not the foundation of Jesus' gospel, and it’s the foundation of the Roman Pagan religion which adopted evolving Christianity. Colter Colter. Mat.26:42. he went away again the second time,and prayed,saying: O MY FATHER,IF THIS CUP MAY NOT PASS AWAY FROM ME EXCEPT I DRINK IT,THY WILL BE DONE. (red lettering). It was Gods will: for him to be scrificed. wakeup. It was the will of the father for the creator Son to experience all that man experiences while subject to the Father will.. In the original gospel of Jesus taught that God was already a forgiving Father, that Love is unconditional. The Pagan Mystery religions had a sacrificed savior. Jesus spent his whole life doing Gods will and thus revealing the Father to mankind. Christians support the betrayal by Judas, the unjust trial and the barbaric murder of an innocent man in order to complete Christian theology ; theoretical salvation. The salvation of Jesus was based on real spiritual transformation. Colter. Can you not see,that you have to twist scripture after scripture to the max,to make your doctrine look like its working? But it wll not work,for God has written the scriptures in such a way that it can not be broken. It is not working Colter. wakeup.

Can you not see that you have to put put words in Jesus' mouth in order for the human sacrifice doctrine to work?

Jesus never said he was a sacrifice, you just assume that he was because the Pagan direction that Peter and mainly Paul went in distorts your view.

Jesus had already been teaching unconditional forgiveness.

Btw, it may not work for you, but it has worked for me.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ July 21 2012,06:51)

Quote (Wakeup @ July 21 2012,06:08) Quote (Colter @ July 21 2012,04:40) Quote (Wakeup @ July 20 2012,23:36) Quote (Colter @ July 19 2012,04:38) Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2012,03:00) Quote (Colter @ July 19 2012,02:56) Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2012,01:43) Hi Colter, Was it not Jesus who told Paul to be his witness? God bless Ed J If Jesus came back down from heaven and told Paul to carry the gospel message, then Paul carried a different message. Colter Hi Colter, Why do you say that? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Jesus had a gospel 3+ years before the cross, atoning sacrifice was not the foundation of Jesus' gospel, and it’s the foundation of the Roman Pagan religion which adopted evolving Christianity. Colter Colter. Mat.26:42. he went away again the second time,and prayed,saying: O MY FATHER,IF THIS CUP MAY NOT PASS AWAY FROM ME EXCEPT I DRINK IT,THY WILL BE DONE. (red lettering). It was Gods will: for him to be scrificed. wakeup. It was the will of the father for the creator Son to experience all that man experiences while subject to the Father will.. In the original gospel of Jesus taught that God was already a forgiving Father, that Love is unconditional. The Pagan Mystery religions had a sacrificed savior. Jesus spent his whole life doing Gods will and thus revealing the Father to mankind. Christians support the betrayal by Judas, the unjust trial and the barbaric murder of an innocent man in order to complete Christian theology ; theoretical salvation. The salvation of Jesus was based on real spiritual transformation. Colter. Can you not see,that you have to twist scripture after scripture to the max,to make your doctrine look like its working? But it wll not work,for God has written the scriptures in such a way that it can not be broken. It is not working Colter. wakeup. Can you not see that you have to put put words in Jesus' mouth in order for the human sacrifice doctrine to work? Jesus never said he was a sacrifice, you just assume that he was because the Pagan direction that Peter and mainly Paul went in distorts your view. Jesus had already been teaching unconditional forgiveness. Btw, it may not work for you, but it has worked for me.

Colter.

So there is no scrifice needed you say?

John3:16.

FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD,THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON,THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVED IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH,BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE.

Go ahead twist that as much as you want. satan would be pleased.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ July 22 2012,00:55)

Quote (Colter @ July 21 2012,06:51) Quote (Wakeup @ July 21 2012,06:08) Quote (Colter @ July 21 2012,04:40) Quote (Wakeup @ July 20 2012,23:36) Quote (Colter @ July 19 2012,04:38) Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2012,03:00) Quote (Colter @ July 19 2012,02:56) Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2012,01:43) Hi Colter, Was it not Jesus who told Paul to be his witness? God bless Ed J If Jesus came back down from heaven and told Paul to carry the gospel message, then Paul carried a different message. Colter Hi Colter, Why do you say that? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Jesus had a gospel 3+ years before the cross, atoning sacrifice was not the foundation of Jesus' gospel, and it’s the foundation of the Roman Pagan religion which adopted evolving Christianity. Colter Colter. Mat.26:42. he went away again the second time,and prayed,saying: O MY FATHER,IF THIS CUP MAY NOT PASS AWAY FROM ME EXCEPT I DRINK IT,THY WILL BE DONE. (red lettering). It was Gods will: for him to be scrificed. wakeup. It was the will of the father for the creator Son to experience all that man experiences while subject to the Father will.. In the original gospel of Jesus taught that God was already a forgiving Father, that Love is unconditional. The Pagan Mystery religions had a sacrificed savior. Jesus spent his whole life doing Gods will and thus revealing the Father to mankind. Christians support the betrayal by Judas, the unjust trial and the barbaric murder of an innocent man in order to complete Christian theology ; theoretical salvation. The salvation of Jesus was based on real spiritual transformation. Colter. Can you not see,that you have to twist scripture after scripture to the max,to make your doctrine look like its working? But it wll not work,for God has written the scriptures in such a way that it can not be broken. It is not working Colter. wakeup. Can you not see that you have to put put words in Jesus' mouth in order for the human sacrifice doctrine to work? Jesus never said he was a sacrifice, you just assume that he was because the Pagan direction that Peter and mainly Paul went in distorts your view. Jesus had already been teaching unconditional forgiveness. Btw, it may not work for you, but it has worked for me. Colter. So there is no scrifice needed you say? John3:16. FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD,THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON,THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVED IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH,BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE. Go ahead twist that as much as you want. satan would be pleased. wakeup.

Again, you just assume that line means God sent his Son so that the Son could be a human sacrifice, unjustly tried, convicted, tortured and killed so that a changeless God could then change and forgive mankind through the acceptable sacrifice of a clean man.

You have this Satan God as more powerful then God himself.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ July 22 2012,02:55)

Quote (Wakeup @ July 22 2012,00:55) Quote (Colter @ July 21 2012,06:51) Quote (Wakeup @ July 21 2012,06:08) Quote (Colter @ July 21 2012,04:40) Quote (Wakeup @ July 20 2012,23:36) Quote (Colter @ July 19 2012,04:38) Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2012,03:00) Quote (Colter @ July 19 2012,02:56) Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2012,01:43) Hi Colter, Was it not Jesus who told Paul to be his witness? God bless Ed J If Jesus came back down from heaven and told Paul to carry the gospel message, then Paul carried a different message. Colter Hi Colter, Why do you say that? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Jesus had a gospel 3+ years before the cross, atoning sacrifice was not the foundation of Jesus' gospel, and it’s the foundation of the Roman Pagan religion which adopted evolving Christianity. Colter Colter. Mat.26:42. he went away again the second time,and prayed,saying: O MY FATHER,IF THIS CUP MAY NOT PASS AWAY FROM ME EXCEPT I DRINK IT,THY WILL BE DONE. (red lettering). It was Gods will: for him to be scrificed. wakeup. It was the will of the father for the creator Son to experience all that man experiences while subject to the Father will.. In the original gospel of Jesus taught that God was already a forgiving Father, that Love is unconditional. The Pagan Mystery religions had a sacrificed savior. Jesus spent his whole life doing Gods will and thus revealing the Father to mankind. Christians support the betrayal by Judas, the unjust trial and the barbaric murder of an innocent man in order to complete Christian theology ; theoretical salvation. The salvation of Jesus was based on real spiritual transformation. Colter. Can you not see,that you have to twist scripture after scripture to the max,to make your doctrine look like its working? But it wll not work,for God has written the scriptures in such a way that it can not be broken. It is not working Colter. wakeup. Can you not see that you have to put put words in Jesus' mouth in order for the human sacrifice doctrine to work? Jesus never said he was a sacrifice, you just assume that he was because the Pagan direction that Peter and mainly Paul went in distorts your view. Jesus had already been teaching unconditional forgiveness. Btw, it may not work for you, but it has worked for me. Colter. So there is no scrifice needed you say? John3:16. FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD,THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON,THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVED IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH,BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE. Go ahead twist that as much as you want. satan would be pleased. wakeup. Again, you just assume that line means God sent his Son so that the Son could be a human sacrifice, unjustly tried, convicted, tortured and killed so that a changeless God could then change and forgive mankind through the acceptable sacrifice of a clean man. You have this Satan God as more powerful then God himself. Colter

Colter.

1Cor.15:45. So it is written,the –FIRST MAN– Adam was made a living soul; THE LAST ADAM (Christ) was made a quickening spirit.
(After he was hanged he was resurected the 3th day).

Go ahead, twist some more SCRIPTURES:

wakeup.

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1Cor.15:45. So it is written,the –FIRST MAN– Adam was made a living soul; THE LAST ADAM (Christ) was made a quickening spirit. (After he was hanged he was resurected the 3th day).

I'm not twisting scripture, I state plainly where I don't agree with it. The false idol of scripture is twisted enough on it's own. Corinthians was just the writing of Paul's opinion, he never claimed to be writing “scripture” of for God.

There is no question that the doctrine of original sin is a theme in the Bible, in fact there are multiple themes in the Bible.

Jesus taught salvation by way of spiritual transformation and faith is God, the gospel changed after his death and became a gospel about eh cross.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ July 22 2012,08:51)

Quote 1Cor.15:45. So it is written,the –FIRST MAN– Adam was made a living soul; THE LAST ADAM (Christ) was made a quickening spirit. (After he was hanged he was resurected the 3th day). I'm not twisting scripture, I state plainly where I don't agree with it. The false idol of scripture is twisted enough on it's own. Corinthians was just the writing of Paul's opinion, he never claimed to be writing “scripture” of for God. There is no question that the doctrine of original sin is a theme in the Bible, in fact there are multiple themes in the Bible. Jesus taught salvation by way of  spiritual transformation and faith is God, the gospel changed after his death and became a gospel about eh cross. Colter

Colter.

If Jesus was not crucified than what happened to him?
You say you belief in jesus,but you dont believe in his words.
But in some strangers word.

Paul was a great enemy of jesus;untill he was spoken to by jesus: ''Saul,saul,why persecutest thou me?
Who art thou Lord? ''I am Jesus of nazareth,whom thou persecutest.

Sual was on his wayto damascus with his men to go after the worshippers,when God opened up the earth to swollow up the flood ment to flood the followers of Christ.(rev.12:16.).

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU
You say
“Sual was on his wayto damascus with his men to go after the worshippers,when God opened up the earth to swollow up the flood ment to flood the followers of Christ.(rev.12:16.).”

Hardly a likely interpretation of prophecy.
Can you support it?

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