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- February 4, 2009 at 3:14 am#120248NickHassanParticipant
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 04 2009,13:27) Nick………Yes i have read acts and as you have been shown here clearly, that what happened there and took place was in transition and you fail to acknowledge it , But Paul and others grow to see it over time, and you should also. peace……………………….gene
GB,
In transition?
Between what and what?
Where is this transition written?February 5, 2009 at 3:57 pm#120405KangarooJackParticipantMarty said:
Quote Throughout the Acts of the Apostles, believers are baptized in water and the book of the Acts of the Apostles is the only book in the new testament which does not end in the words: “Amen” or so be it, therefore the Acts of the Apostles is an ongoing book because the gospel and the Acts of God will go on until the Lord comes for the church. Marty,
Hebrews chapter 10 identifies the blood of Jesus as the “pure water” that washed our bodies.Quote Therefore, having boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way, which He consecrated for us, through the veil that is, His flesh, and having a high priest over the house of God, let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water (Heb. 10:19-22) There it is Marty! Just as Christ's body is called the “veil” through which we have access to God so His blood is called the “PURE WATER” that washed our bodies and makes us clean before God! Baptism with physical water was needed only during that interim period when Christ was sprinkling His blood in the heavenly sanctuary. Upon the completion of that intercession water baptism came to it end. It's no longer necessary. You were cleansed the very moment Christ completed that intercession!
The first saints had to be baptized with water to wash their bodies UNTIL Christ finished His heavenly intercession of washing them with His blood.
Quote The blood of Jesus Christ His Son CLEANSES us from all sin (1 John 1:9-10) You are adding to the finished atonement of Christ!
yours,
thinkerFebruary 5, 2009 at 5:43 pm#120416NickHassanParticipantHi TT,
Heb 10
Therefore, having boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of jesus, by a new and living way, which He consecrated for us, theough the veil that is, His flesh, and having a high priest over the house of God, let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled form an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water (Heb. 10:19-22)So tell us again how washed bodies are the same as sprinkled hearts ??
'AND' is not an irrelevant word
We need the washing by the blood.
Heb9
Hebrews 9:14
how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?1 John 5:6
This is the One who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ; not with the water only, but with the water and with the blood It is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth.Revelation 1:5
and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood–But it is through repentance and water baptism such forgiveness and inner washing of the conscience is obtained.
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21Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you–not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience–through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,February 6, 2009 at 12:19 am#120464KangarooJackParticipantNick asked:
Quote So tell us again how washed bodies are the same as sprinkled hearts ?? Who said that washed bodies and sprinkled hearts are the same? I said only that the blood of Christ effected both. It says that Christ's body was the “veil” through which we gain access to God. So His blood is the “pure water” that makes us enter before God with clean consciences and clean bodies.
Therefore, we do not need to be baptized with unpure, that is physical water today. No degree in rocket science is needed to know these marvelous things.
In Christ,
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