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Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,01:39) Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,01:23) Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,00:56) Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,00:14) Quote (Ed J @ June 03 2013,23:59) Quote (Colter @ June 03 2013,22:52)
Its fine that you do not like my definition of God being jealous. You are free to disagree with me and thats ok. It's aood that this is such an important issue for you???Colter
Hi Colter,I see you personalized my question to you, but that's OK.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Oh, I did not realize that was a group question that required a plural answer. I apologize to all who may have been offended.Colter
HA Ha ha ha ha!Hi Colter,
Well, can you name some people that agree with your definition of the word “Jealousy”?Quote (Colter @ May 20 2013,04:06) I think jealousy is about the one who is jealous, not the focus. It's like a toxic cocktail
of fear-pride-anger-revenge-possessiveness-self doubt-low self image all mixed together.
Or if we were to ask the members here to define the word “Jealousy”, do you think any would define it as you have?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
I would think that the average man on the street would see jealousy as a negative human characteristic, my definition is simply mine, others may certainly disagree. I see God as being mature and perfect.Why do you quibble over these trivialities?
Colter
Hi Colter,Sorry Colter, but I don't consider the definitions of words to be trivial!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
The triviality isn't the definition of the word jealousy (as if the Bible comes with an official guide of working definitions) it's that you have such a problem with our difference of opinion.Colter
Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,01:46) Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,01:39) Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,01:23)
Why do you quibble over these trivialities?Sorry Colter, but I don't consider the definitions of words to be trivial!
The triviality isn't the definition of the word jealousy (as if the Bible comes with an official guide of working definitions) it's that you have such a problem with our difference of opinion.
Colter
Hi Colter,I feel where truth is concerned, an agreement can always be reached; sorry if you feel differently.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,02:52) Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,01:46) Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,01:39) Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,01:23)
Why do you quibble over these trivialities?Sorry Colter, but I don't consider the definitions of words to be trivial!
The triviality isn't the definition of the word jealousy (as if the Bible comes with an official guide of working definitions) it's that you have such a problem with our difference of opinion.
Colter
Hi Colter,I feel where truth is concerned, an agreement can always be reached; sorry if you feel differently.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Colter,Here's Mr. Webster's definition:
JEALOUS: vigilant in guarding a possession
This is the same definition I have given to you:Quote (Ed J @ May 19 2013,14:13) Hi Colter, People argue over misconceptions all the time, that's why it's good
to define the words we use. And here are the definitions I use…Jealousy: is a concern for what belongs to you
Envy: is a concern for what belongs to othersGod bless
Ed J
Sorry, but I will not argue with you over misconceptions.
When “I” use the words Jealous and envious,
IT WILL BE CLEAR TO YOU WHAT “I” MEAN!
Even if it is unclear to you what God means.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Colter,
I guess you don't believe the authoritative words of the Apostle Paul either…
“I'm jealous over you with godly jealousy:
for I have espoused you to one husband, that I
may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.” (2 Cor 11:2)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,03:42) Hi Colter, I guess you don't believe the authoritative words of the Apostle Paul either…
“I'm jealous over you with godly jealousy:
for I have espoused you to one husband, that I
may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.” (2 Cor 11:2)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Paul was human, untaught by Jesus. I don't regard him as an authority, more a corrupter.I see God as love.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,04:30) Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,03:42) Hi Colter, I guess you don't believe the authoritative words of the Apostle Paul either…
“I'm jealous over you with godly jealousy:
for I have espoused you to one husband, that I
may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.” (2 Cor 11:2)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Paul was human, untaught by Jesus. I don't regard him as an authority, more a corrupter.I see God as love.
Colter
Colter.You are even against the apostle Paul.
Paul is agreat teacher;he was responsible to spread the gospel to the gentiles.
Without his hard work,we would still be pagans today.Not that it is any different to you.
Worshipping angels is also a pagan ritual.
You worship Michael. Not jeshuah ha masiach.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,12:34) Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,04:30) Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,03:42) Hi Colter, I guess you don't believe the authoritative words of the Apostle Paul either…
“I'm jealous over you with godly jealousy:
for I have espoused you to one husband, that I
may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.” (2 Cor 11:2)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Paul was human, untaught by Jesus. I don't regard him as an authority, more a corrupter.I see God as love.
Colter
Colter.You are even against the apostle Paul.
Paul is agreat teacher;he was responsible to spread the gospel to the gentiles.
Without his hard work,we would still be pagans today.Not that it is any different to you.
Worshipping angels is also a pagan ritual.
You worship Michael. Not jeshuah ha masiach.wakeup.
The original gospel was to be spread to the 4 corners of the earth.Paul's charismatic personality greatly overshadowed the movement and nearly all of the NT books.
Paul was raised in Paganism, he contaminated Christianity with his own baggage. Paul was anti women and anti gay.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,13:01) Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,12:34) Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,04:30) Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,03:42) Hi Colter, I guess you don't believe the authoritative words of the Apostle Paul either…
“I'm jealous over you with godly jealousy:
for I have espoused you to one husband, that I
may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.” (2 Cor 11:2)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Paul was human, untaught by Jesus. I don't regard him as an authority, more a corrupter.I see God as love.
Colter
Colter.You are even against the apostle Paul.
Paul is agreat teacher;he was responsible to spread the gospel to the gentiles.
Without his hard work,we would still be pagans today.Not that it is any different to you.
Worshipping angels is also a pagan ritual.
You worship Michael. Not jeshuah ha masiach.wakeup.
The original gospel was to be spread to the 4 corners of the earth.Paul's charismatic personality greatly overshadowed the movement and nearly all of the NT books.
Paul was raised in Paganism, he contaminated Christianity with his own baggage. Paul was anti women and anti gay.
Colter
Colter.Of course Paul is against Gays.And paul was also babtised by the Holy spirit.
Do you think God is not against gays?
You must be drinking too much takila.What about sodom, they even wanted to have the angels.
Gays may look nice and kind,but if allowed to practise
freely they will destroy the whole society.Children will get confused and after a few generations,they will all see it as normal.
God created them male and female,that is how it should be.Satan has changed things around,because he is the author of confusion.
There can not be any compromise in that.
wakeup.
Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,13:01) Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,12:34) Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,04:30) Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,03:42) Hi Colter, I guess you don't believe the authoritative words of the Apostle Paul either…
“I'm jealous over you with godly jealousy:
for I have espoused you to one husband, that I
may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.” (2 Cor 11:2)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Paul was human, untaught by Jesus. I don't regard him as an authority, more a corrupter.I see God as love.
Colter
Colter.You are even against the apostle Paul.
Paul is agreat teacher;he was responsible to spread the gospel to the gentiles.
Without his hard work,we would still be pagans today.Not that it is any different to you.
Worshipping angels is also a pagan ritual.
You worship Michael. Not jeshuah ha masiach.wakeup.
The original gospel was to be spread to the 4 corners of the earth.Paul's charismatic personality greatly overshadowed the movement and nearly all of the NT books.
Paul was raised in Paganism, he contaminated Christianity with his own baggage. Paul was anti women and anti gay.
Colter
Colter,What are you talking about the Apostle Paul studied under Gamaiel.
“I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up
in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of
the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.” (Acts 22:3)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org…. “Mithraism was the dominant religion of Tarsus during his adolescence. Paul little dreamed that his well-intentioned letters to his converts would someday be regarded by still later Christians as the “word of God.” Such well-meaning teachers must not be held accountable for the use made of their writings by later-day successors.
(977.1) 89:3.6 It was only natural that the cult of renunciation and humiliation should have paid attention to sexual gratification. The continence cult originated as a ritual among soldiers prior to engaging in battle; in later days it became the practice of “saints.” This cult tolerated marriage only as an evil lesser than fornication. Many of the world’s great religions have been adversely influenced by this ancient cult, but none more markedly than Christianity. The Apostle Paul was a devotee of this cult, and his personal views are reflected in the teachings which he fastened onto Christian theology: “It is good for a man not to touch a woman.” “I would that all men were even as I myself.” “I say, therefore, to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them to abide even as I.” Paul well knew that such teachings were not a part of Jesus’ gospel, and his acknowledgment of this is illustrated by his statement, “I speak this by permission and not by commandment.” But this cult led Paul to look down upon women. And the pity of it all is that his personal opinions have long influenced the teachings of a great world religion. If the advice of the tentmaker-teacher were to be literally and universally obeyed, then would the human race come to a sudden and inglorious end. Furthermore, the involvement of a religion with the ancient continence cult leads directly to a war against marriage and the home, society’s veritable foundation and the basic institution of human progress. And it is not to be wondered at that all such beliefs fostered the formation of celibate priesthoods in the many religions of various peoples.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,22:15) …. “Mithraism was the dominant religion of Tarsus during his adolescence. Paul little dreamed that his well-intentioned letters to his converts would someday be regarded by still later Christians as the “word of God.” Such well-meaning teachers must not be held accountable for the use made of their writings by later-day successors. (977.1) 89:3.6 It was only natural that the cult of renunciation and humiliation should have paid attention to sexual gratification. The continence cult originated as a ritual among soldiers prior to engaging in battle; in later days it became the practice of “saints.” This cult tolerated marriage only as an evil lesser than fornication. Many of the world’s great religions have been adversely influenced by this ancient cult, but none more markedly than Christianity. The Apostle Paul was a devotee of this cult, and his personal views are reflected in the teachings which he fastened onto Christian theology: “It is good for a man not to touch a woman.” “I would that all men were even as I myself.” “I say, therefore, to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them to abide even as I.” Paul well knew that such teachings were not a part of Jesus’ gospel, and his acknowledgment of this is illustrated by his statement, “I speak this by permission and not by commandment.” But this cult led Paul to look down upon women. And the pity of it all is that his personal opinions have long influenced the teachings of a great world religion. If the advice of the tentmaker-teacher were to be literally and universally obeyed, then would the human race come to a sudden and inglorious end. Furthermore, the involvement of a religion with the ancient continence cult leads directly to a war against marriage and the home, society’s veritable foundation and the basic institution of human progress. And it is not to be wondered at that all such beliefs fostered the formation of celibate priesthoods in the many religions of various peoples.
Colter
The fact is Colter;that you are in the twilight zone.
Swayed by the winds of strange doctrines.
Have no foundation to stand on.
The Rock ; the true strong foundation you have dismissed.Satan believes in the true God and Jesus, but he also rejected God, and went alone following his own heart.
Not every one saying Lord,Lord, will enter in the kingdom.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 05 2013,00:31) Quote (Colter @ June 04 2013,22:15) …. “Mithraism was the dominant religion of Tarsus during his adolescence. Paul little dreamed that his well-intentioned letters to his converts would someday be regarded by still later Christians as the “word of God.” Such well-meaning teachers must not be held accountable for the use made of their writings by later-day successors. (977.1) 89:3.6 It was only natural that the cult of renunciation and humiliation should have paid attention to sexual gratification. The continence cult originated as a ritual among soldiers prior to engaging in battle; in later days it became the practice of “saints.” This cult tolerated marriage only as an evil lesser than fornication. Many of the world’s great religions have been adversely influenced by this ancient cult, but none more markedly than Christianity. The Apostle Paul was a devotee of this cult, and his personal views are reflected in the teachings which he fastened onto Christian theology: “It is good for a man not to touch a woman.” “I would that all men were even as I myself.” “I say, therefore, to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them to abide even as I.” Paul well knew that such teachings were not a part of Jesus’ gospel, and his acknowledgment of this is illustrated by his statement, “I speak this by permission and not by commandment.” But this cult led Paul to look down upon women. And the pity of it all is that his personal opinions have long influenced the teachings of a great world religion. If the advice of the tentmaker-teacher were to be literally and universally obeyed, then would the human race come to a sudden and inglorious end. Furthermore, the involvement of a religion with the ancient continence cult leads directly to a war against marriage and the home, society’s veritable foundation and the basic institution of human progress. And it is not to be wondered at that all such beliefs fostered the formation of celibate priesthoods in the many religions of various peoples.
Colter
The fact is Colter;that you are in the twilight zone.
Swayed by the winds of strange doctrines.
Have no foundation to stand on.
The Rock ; the true strong foundation you have dismissed.Satan believes in the true God and Jesus, but he also rejected God, and went alone following his own heart.
Not every one saying Lord,Lord, will enter in the kingdom.
wakeup.
Fortunately for me you aren’t the judge. And the average man with common sense would also think you are in the twilight zone with belief in young earth, a frustrated, self doubting deity who killed all the earth and began again (except for the 500 year Hebrew man and his boat of all living things) twin Gods of conflicting wills, who could only forgive after an innocent man was killed, by his Chosen People, who will soon return, to dip people in a lake of fire, complete with bugs and plagues, and only those who believe that silliness will live on earth forever!
I will take my alien book any day; laugh at me to your hearts content.
Colter
Colter;do you believe in the mark of the beast?
Revelation 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the *wrath of her fornication*.
Revelation 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and *receive his mark in his forehead*, *or in his hand*,
Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the *wrath of God*, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and **he shall be tormented** with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and **in the presence of the Lamb**:
Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their *torment* ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep *the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus*.
Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
Revelation 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
Revelation 14:15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
Revelation 14:16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.
Revelation 14:17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.
Revelation 14:18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.
Revelation 14:19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
Revelation 14:20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and *blood came out of the winepress*, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.****
The majotity can not understand prophesies, why so?
If it is indeed them who wrote this, you call barbage.Colter: All symbols have a meaning,and I dont find it hard
to interpret them.wakeup.
The “mark of the beast” is the mark of our evolutionary animal inheritance; human instincts, certain emotions of fear, anger etc.
What John saw in his “vision” was the 7th mansion world where the final mark of the beast will be overcome.
The Seventh Mansion World
(538.6) 47:9.1 The experience on this sphere is the crowning achievement of the immediate postmortal career. During your sojourn here you will receive the instruction of many teachers, all of whom will co-operate in the task of preparing you for residence on Jerusem. Any discernible differences between those mortals hailing from the isolated and retarded worlds and those survivors from the more advanced and enlightened spheres are virtually obliterated during the sojourn on the seventh mansion world. Here you will be purged of all the remnants of unfortunate heredity, unwholesome environment, and unspiritual planetary tendencies. The last remnants of the “mark of the beast” are here eradicated.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ June 05 2013,03:15) The “mark of the beast” is the mark of our evolutionary animal inheritance; human instincts, certain emotions of fear, anger etc. What John saw in his “vision” was the 7th mansion world where the final mark of the beast will be overcome.
The Seventh Mansion World
(538.6) 47:9.1 The experience on this sphere is the crowning achievement of the immediate postmortal career. During your sojourn here you will receive the instruction of many teachers, all of whom will co-operate in the task of preparing you for residence on Jerusem. Any discernible differences between those mortals hailing from the isolated and retarded worlds and those survivors from the more advanced and enlightened spheres are virtually obliterated during the sojourn on the seventh mansion world. Here you will be purged of all the remnants of unfortunate heredity, unwholesome environment, and unspiritual planetary tendencies. The last remnants of the “mark of the beast” are here eradicated.
Colter
Colter.Revelation 13:16 ***And he causeth all***, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark *in* their right hand, or *in* their foreheads:
Revelation 13:17 And that no man **might buy or sell**, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of *his name*.
the mark of the beast has something to do with *buying* and *selling*;trade,business,shopping,work pay.
Its a new type of barcode that they will put on humans instead of on Goods. Its called the rfid chip;or bio chip.
To take this chip means being in obedience to the son of perdition. He will force all to take it,or you will be killed.
And here are Christs words:
***He who saves his life will loose it; and he who loses his life for my sake will find life***.This new system is here now, many have already voluntarily received it. But when the false prophet is in charge;he will make it compulsory. And he is ready to come on stage.
wakeup.
(1109.6) 101:4.5 Truth may be but relatively inspired, even though revelation is invariably a spiritual phenomenon. While statements with reference to cosmology are never inspired, such revelations are of immense value in that they at least transiently clarify knowledge by:
(1109.7) 101:4.6 1. The reduction of confusion by the authoritative elimination of error.
(1109.8) 101:4.7 2. The co-ordination of known or about-to-be-known facts and observations.
(1110.1) 101:4.8 3. The restoration of important bits of lost knowledge concerning epochal transactions in the distant past.
(1110.2) 101:4.9 4. The supplying of information which will fill in vital missing gaps in otherwise earned knowledge.
(1110.3) 101:4.10 5. Presenting cosmic data in such a manner as to illuminate the spiritual teachings contained in the accompanying revelation.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ June 05 2013,12:38) (1109.6) 101:4.5 Truth may be but relatively inspired, even though revelation is invariably a spiritual phenomenon. While statements with reference to cosmology are never inspired, such revelations are of immense value in that they at least transiently clarify knowledge by: (1109.7) 101:4.6 1. The reduction of confusion by the authoritative elimination of error.
(1109.8) 101:4.7 2. The co-ordination of known or about-to-be-known facts and observations.
(1110.1) 101:4.8 3. The restoration of important bits of lost knowledge concerning epochal transactions in the distant past.
(1110.2) 101:4.9 4. The supplying of information which will fill in vital missing gaps in otherwise earned knowledge.
(1110.3) 101:4.10 5. Presenting cosmic data in such a manner as to illuminate the spiritual teachings contained in the accompanying revelation.
Colter
Colter.Nothing but colourful empty words to confuse the humble.
To make the humble feel stupid, and very small.wakeup.
(1731.4) 155:6.6 Shame on those false religious teachers who would drag hungry souls back into the dim and distant past and there leave them! And so are these unfortunate persons doomed to become frightened by every new discovery, while they are discomfited by every new revelation of truth. The prophet who said, “He will be kept in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on God,” was not a mere intellectual believer in authoritative theology. This truth-knowing human had discovered God; he was not merely talking about God.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ June 05 2013,21:40) (1731.4) 155:6.6 Shame on those false religious teachers who would drag hungry souls back into the dim and distant past and there leave them! And so are these unfortunate persons doomed to become frightened by every new discovery, while they are discomfited by every new revelation of truth. The prophet who said, “He will be kept in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on God,” was not a mere intellectual believer in authoritative theology. This truth-knowing human had discovered God; he was not merely talking about God. Colter
Luke 12:7 But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. *FEAR NOT* therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows.Luke 12:32 *FEAR NOT*, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.
THERE IS NO FEAR IN LOVE.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 05 2013,22:57) Quote (Colter @ June 05 2013,21:40) (1731.4) 155:6.6 Shame on those false religious teachers who would drag hungry souls back into the dim and distant past and there leave them! And so are these unfortunate persons doomed to become frightened by every new discovery, while they are discomfited by every new revelation of truth. The prophet who said, “He will be kept in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on God,” was not a mere intellectual believer in authoritative theology. This truth-knowing human had discovered God; he was not merely talking about God. Colter
Luke 12:7 But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. *FEAR NOT* therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows.Luke 12:32 *FEAR NOT*, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.
THERE IS NO FEAR IN LOVE.
wakeup.
But you fear your Gods evil twin who you claim is God of this world.You live in fear of the tricks you believe your God plays on you.
Colter
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