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    Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,23:49)
    Colter.

    You have **rejected** the greatest gift from God to mankind.

    John 3:16   *For God so loved the world*, that ***he gave his only begotten Son***, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    Therefore you have rejected life.
    Satan is very pleased with you;keep on praising God with your lips,and deny him the same time; may God have mercy on your soul.

    wakeup.


    You are a liar! You continually misrepresent what I have said because you are no different then the dishonest Pharisees!

    I only reject the Pagan interpretation of human sacrifice. Secondary opinions about Jesus from sacrifice minded people mean nothing to me.

    However, in order to justify your doctrine, you need the unjust trial, you need the crowd that called for a guilty man to be set free, you need the unjust murder of Jesus, you need an innocent man to die because you are to lazy to own, confess and repent of your sins.

    Face your own sins instead of murdering Jesus as a substitute for your spiritually lazy butt!

    #354287
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,00:23)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,23:49)
    Colter.

    You have **rejected** the greatest gift from God to mankind.

    John 3:16   *For God so loved the world*, that ***he gave his only begotten Son***, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    Therefore you have rejected life.
    Satan is very pleased with you;keep on praising God with your lips,and deny him the same time; may God have mercy on your soul.

    wakeup.


    You are a liar! You continually misrepresent what I have said because you are no different then the dishonest Pharisees!

    I only reject the Pagan interpretation of human sacrifice. Secondary opinions about Jesus from sacrifice minded people mean nothing to me.  

    However, in order to justify your doctrine,  you need the unjust trial, you need the crowd that called for a guilty man to be set free, you need the unjust murder of Jesus, you need an innocent man to die because you are to lazy to own, confess and repent of your sins.

    Face your own sins instead of murdering Jesus as a substitute for your spiritually lazy butt!


    Things are not looking too good for you Colter.

    Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that ***God hath raised him from the dead***, *thou shalt be saved*.

    Colter;you deny the cricifixion and the resurrection.
    How can you claim to be born again?

    wakeup.

    #354288
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,01:24)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,00:23)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,23:49)
    Colter.

    You have **rejected** the greatest gift from God to mankind.

    John 3:16   *For God so loved the world*, that ***he gave his only begotten Son***, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    Therefore you have rejected life.
    Satan is very pleased with you;keep on praising God with your lips,and deny him the same time; may God have mercy on your soul.

    wakeup.


    You are a liar! You continually misrepresent what I have said because you are no different then the dishonest Pharisees!

    I only reject the Pagan interpretation of human sacrifice. Secondary opinions about Jesus from sacrifice minded people mean nothing to me.  

    However, in order to justify your doctrine,  you need the unjust trial, you need the crowd that called for a guilty man to be set free, you need the unjust murder of Jesus, you need an innocent man to die because you are to lazy to own, confess and repent of your sins.

    Face your own sins instead of murdering Jesus as a substitute for your spiritually lazy butt!


    Things are not looking too good for you Colter.

    Romans 10:9   That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that ***God hath raised him from the dead***, *thou shalt be saved*.

    Colter;you deny the cricifixion and the resurrection.
    How can you claim to be born again?

    wakeup.


    I do not deny the resurrection liar! Jesus resurrected himself from the dead just as he said he would and I have said that over and over!

    You bear false witness and constantly lie, what a phony Christian you are!

    Colter

    #354289
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,04:29)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,01:24)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,00:23)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,23:49)
    Colter.

    You have **rejected** the greatest gift from God to mankind.

    John 3:16   *For God so loved the world*, that ***he gave his only begotten Son***, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    Therefore you have rejected life.
    Satan is very pleased with you;keep on praising God with your lips,and deny him the same time; may God have mercy on your soul.

    wakeup.


    You are a liar! You continually misrepresent what I have said because you are no different then the dishonest Pharisees!

    I only reject the Pagan interpretation of human sacrifice. Secondary opinions about Jesus from sacrifice minded people mean nothing to me.  

    However, in order to justify your doctrine,  you need the unjust trial, you need the crowd that called for a guilty man to be set free, you need the unjust murder of Jesus, you need an innocent man to die because you are to lazy to own, confess and repent of your sins.

    Face your own sins instead of murdering Jesus as a substitute for your spiritually lazy butt!


    Things are not looking too good for you Colter.

    Romans 10:9   That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that ***God hath raised him from the dead***, *thou shalt be saved*.

    Colter;you deny the cricifixion and the resurrection.
    How can you claim to be born again?

    wakeup.


    I do not deny the resurrection liar! Jesus resurrected himself from the dead just as he said he would and I have said that over and over!

    You bear false witness and constantly lie, what a phony Christian you are!

    Colter


    Colter.

    You dont belief in the crucicixion.
    So how did Jesus die?
    Is it of old age?

    wakeup.

    #354290
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    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,06:45)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,04:29)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,01:24)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,00:23)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,23:49)
    Colter.

    You have **rejected** the greatest gift from God to mankind.

    John 3:16   *For God so loved the world*, that ***he gave his only begotten Son***, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    Therefore you have rejected life.
    Satan is very pleased with you;keep on praising God with your lips,and deny him the same time; may God have mercy on your soul.

    wakeup.


    You are a liar! You continually misrepresent what I have said because you are no different then the dishonest Pharisees!

    I only reject the Pagan interpretation of human sacrifice. Secondary opinions about Jesus from sacrifice minded people mean nothing to me.  

    However, in order to justify your doctrine,  you need the unjust trial, you need the crowd that called for a guilty man to be set free, you need the unjust murder of Jesus, you need an innocent man to die because you are to lazy to own, confess and repent of your sins.

    Face your own sins instead of murdering Jesus as a substitute for your spiritually lazy butt!


    Things are not looking too good for you Colter.

    Romans 10:9   That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that ***God hath raised him from the dead***, *thou shalt be saved*.

    Colter;you deny the cricifixion and the resurrection.
    How can you claim to be born again?

    wakeup.


    I do not deny the resurrection liar! Jesus resurrected himself from the dead just as he said he would and I have said that over and over!

    You bear false witness and constantly lie, what a phony Christian you are!

    Colter


    Colter.

    You dont belief in the crucicixion.
    So how did Jesus die?
    Is it of old age?

    wakeup.


    There you go again liar,Jesus was killed by religious a-holes like you and they used their mam made scripture to justify it!

    Colter

    #354291
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,13:25)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,06:45)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,04:29)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,01:24)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,00:23)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,23:49)
    Colter.

    You have **rejected** the greatest gift from God to mankind.

    John 3:16   *For God so loved the world*, that ***he gave his only begotten Son***, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    Therefore you have rejected life.
    Satan is very pleased with you;keep on praising God with your lips,and deny him the same time; may God have mercy on your soul.

    wakeup.


    You are a liar! You continually misrepresent what I have said because you are no different then the dishonest Pharisees!

    I only reject the Pagan interpretation of human sacrifice. Secondary opinions about Jesus from sacrifice minded people mean nothing to me.  

    However, in order to justify your doctrine,  you need the unjust trial, you need the crowd that called for a guilty man to be set free, you need the unjust murder of Jesus, you need an innocent man to die because you are to lazy to own, confess and repent of your sins.

    Face your own sins instead of murdering Jesus as a substitute for your spiritually lazy butt!


    Things are not looking too good for you Colter.

    Romans 10:9   That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that ***God hath raised him from the dead***, *thou shalt be saved*.

    Colter;you deny the cricifixion and the resurrection.
    How can you claim to be born again?

    wakeup.


    I do not deny the resurrection liar! Jesus resurrected himself from the dead just as he said he would and I have said that over and over!

    You bear false witness and constantly lie, what a phony Christian you are!

    Colter


    Colter.

    You dont belief in the crucicixion.
    So how did Jesus die?
    Is it of old age?

    wakeup.


    There you go again liar,Jesus was killed by religious a-holes like you and they used their mam made scripture to justify it!

    Colter


    Colter.

    Thats was the crucifiction,he was hanged on the cross for the sins of the world.
    That was prophesied hundreds of years before.
    He could have called many angels to protect him.

    That was Gods will,Gods gift to us to show his love to us.
    luke 22:42.–Father if thou be willing REMOVE THIS CUP FROM ME: NEVERTHELESS,*NOT MY WILL*,*BUT THINE,BE DONE*.

    You are insinuating that men is stronger than God.

    wakeup.

    #354292
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,17:03)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,13:25)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,06:45)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,04:29)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,01:24)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,00:23)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,23:49)
    Colter.

    You have **rejected** the greatest gift from God to mankind.

    John 3:16   *For God so loved the world*, that ***he gave his only begotten Son***, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    Therefore you have rejected life.
    Satan is very pleased with you;keep on praising God with your lips,and deny him the same time; may God have mercy on your soul.

    wakeup.


    You are a liar! You continually misrepresent what I have said because you are no different then the dishonest Pharisees!

    I only reject the Pagan interpretation of human sacrifice. Secondary opinions about Jesus from sacrifice minded people mean nothing to me.  

    However, in order to justify your doctrine,  you need the unjust trial, you need the crowd that called for a guilty man to be set free, you need the unjust murder of Jesus, you need an innocent man to die because you are to lazy to own, confess and repent of your sins.

    Face your own sins instead of murdering Jesus as a substitute for your spiritually lazy butt!


    Things are not looking too good for you Colter.

    Romans 10:9   That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that ***God hath raised him from the dead***, *thou shalt be saved*.

    Colter;you deny the cricifixion and the resurrection.
    How can you claim to be born again?

    wakeup.


    I do not deny the resurrection liar! Jesus resurrected himself from the dead just as he said he would and I have said that over and over!

    You bear false witness and constantly lie, what a phony Christian you are!

    Colter


    Colter.

    You dont belief in the crucicixion.
    So how did Jesus die?
    Is it of old age?

    wakeup.


    There you go again liar,Jesus was killed by religious a-holes like you and they used their mam made scripture to justify it!

    Colter


    Colter.

    Thats was the crucifiction,he was hanged on the cross for the sins of the world.
    That was prophesied hundreds of years before.
    He could have called many angels to protect him.

    That was Gods will,Gods gift to us to show his love to us.
    luke 22:42.–Father if thou be willing REMOVE THIS CUP FROM ME: NEVERTHELESS,*NOT MY WILL*,*BUT THINE,BE DONE*.

    You are insinuating that men is stronger than God.

    wakeup.


    No, Jesus never said he would die as a sacrifice, the Pagan Christians added that.

    From the beginning of the gospel of Jesus he taught that God was already a loving and forgiving Father, you and the Jews don't like that, you don't know how to confess and repent, so you substitute and Innocent man for your laziness.

    Yours is the religion of darkness and death.

    Colter

    #354293
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,22:01)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,17:03)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,13:25)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,06:45)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,04:29)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,01:24)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,00:23)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,23:49)
    Colter.

    You have **rejected** the greatest gift from God to mankind.

    John 3:16   *For God so loved the world*, that ***he gave his only begotten Son***, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    Therefore you have rejected life.
    Satan is very pleased with you;keep on praising God with your lips,and deny him the same time; may God have mercy on your soul.

    wakeup.


    You are a liar! You continually misrepresent what I have said because you are no different then the dishonest Pharisees!

    I only reject the Pagan interpretation of human sacrifice. Secondary opinions about Jesus from sacrifice minded people mean nothing to me.  

    However, in order to justify your doctrine,  you need the unjust trial, you need the crowd that called for a guilty man to be set free, you need the unjust murder of Jesus, you need an innocent man to die because you are to lazy to own, confess and repent of your sins.

    Face your own sins instead of murdering Jesus as a substitute for your spiritually lazy butt!


    Things are not looking too good for you Colter.

    Romans 10:9   That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that ***God hath raised him from the dead***, *thou shalt be saved*.

    Colter;you deny the cricifixion and the resurrection.
    How can you claim to be born again?

    wakeup.


    I do not deny the resurrection liar! Jesus resurrected himself from the dead just as he said he would and I have said that over and over!

    You bear false witness and constantly lie, what a phony Christian you are!

    Colter


    Colter.

    You dont belief in the crucicixion.
    So how did Jesus die?
    Is it of old age?

    wakeup.


    There you go again liar,Jesus was killed by religious a-holes like you and they used their mam made scripture to justify it!

    Colter


    Colter.

    Thats was the crucifiction,he was hanged on the cross for the sins of the world.
    That was prophesied hundreds of years before.
    He could have called many angels to protect him.

    That was Gods will,Gods gift to us to show his love to us.
    luke 22:42.–Father if thou be willing REMOVE THIS CUP FROM ME: NEVERTHELESS,*NOT MY WILL*,*BUT THINE,BE DONE*.

    You are insinuating that men is stronger than God.

    wakeup.


    No, Jesus never said he would die as a sacrifice, the Pagan Christians added that.

    From the beginning of the gospel of Jesus he taught that God was already a loving and forgiving Father, you and the Jews don't like that, you don't know how to confess and repent, so you substitute and Innocent man for your laziness.

    Yours is the religion of darkness and death.

    Colter


    Colter.

    You seem so sure about your understanding.
    Where does it say that Jesus was not sacrficed for our sins.

    But he was just assassinated by the jews,and he could not defend himself ,because they are stronger than God.
    The king of the jews could not defend himself;he has no army to defend himself.

    Gods only begotten Son was taken in the prime of his life,
    and nothing could be done about it.
    You are picturing Jehovah God as a lame God,but dont realise it. Thats what they have done to you.

    wakeup.

    #354294
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,23:47)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,22:01)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,17:03)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,13:25)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,06:45)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,04:29)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,01:24)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,00:23)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,23:49)
    Colter.

    You have **rejected** the greatest gift from God to mankind.

    John 3:16   *For God so loved the world*, that ***he gave his only begotten Son***, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    Therefore you have rejected life.
    Satan is very pleased with you;keep on praising God with your lips,and deny him the same time; may God have mercy on your soul.

    wakeup.


    You are a liar! You continually misrepresent what I have said because you are no different then the dishonest Pharisees!

    I only reject the Pagan interpretation of human sacrifice. Secondary opinions about Jesus from sacrifice minded people mean nothing to me.  

    However, in order to justify your doctrine,  you need the unjust trial, you need the crowd that called for a guilty man to be set free, you need the unjust murder of Jesus, you need an innocent man to die because you are to lazy to own, confess and repent of your sins.

    Face your own sins instead of murdering Jesus as a substitute for your spiritually lazy butt!


    Things are not looking too good for you Colter.

    Romans 10:9   That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that ***God hath raised him from the dead***, *thou shalt be saved*.

    Colter;you deny the cricifixion and the resurrection.
    How can you claim to be born again?

    wakeup.


    I do not deny the resurrection liar! Jesus resurrected himself from the dead just as he said he would and I have said that over and over!

    You bear false witness and constantly lie, what a phony Christian you are!

    Colter


    Colter.

    You dont belief in the crucicixion.
    So how did Jesus die?
    Is it of old age?

    wakeup.


    There you go again liar,Jesus was killed by religious a-holes like you and they used their mam made scripture to justify it!

    Colter


    Colter.

    Thats was the crucifiction,he was hanged on the cross for the sins of the world.
    That was prophesied hundreds of years before.
    He could have called many angels to protect him.

    That was Gods will,Gods gift to us to show his love to us.
    luke 22:42.–Father if thou be willing REMOVE THIS CUP FROM ME: NEVERTHELESS,*NOT MY WILL*,*BUT THINE,BE DONE*.

    You are insinuating that men is stronger than God.

    wakeup.


    No, Jesus never said he would die as a sacrifice, the Pagan Christians added that.

    From the beginning of the gospel of Jesus he taught that God was already a loving and forgiving Father, you and the Jews don't like that, you don't know how to confess and repent, so you substitute and Innocent man for your laziness.

    Yours is the religion of darkness and death.

    Colter


    Colter.

    You seem so sure about your understanding.
    Where does it say that Jesus was not sacrficed for our sins.

    But he was just assassinated by the jews,and he could not defend himself ,because they are stronger than God.
    The king of the jews could not defend himself;he has no army to defend himself.

    Gods only begotten Son was taken in the prime of his life,
    and nothing could be done about it.
    You are picturing Jehovah God as a lame God,but dont realise it. Thats what they have done to you.

    wakeup.


    Jesus told us the meaning of his death, that he would resurrect himself to prove his authority, plus it was the will of the Father for him to experience all that his co-created children experience….and he succeeded. It was an act of love.

    Colter

    #354295
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ May 19 2013,01:43)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,23:47)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,22:01)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,17:03)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,13:25)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,06:45)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,04:29)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,01:24)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,00:23)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,23:49)
    Colter.

    You have **rejected** the greatest gift from God to mankind.

    John 3:16   *For God so loved the world*, that ***he gave his only begotten Son***, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    Therefore you have rejected life.
    Satan is very pleased with you;keep on praising God with your lips,and deny him the same time; may God have mercy on your soul.

    wakeup.


    You are a liar! You continually misrepresent what I have said because you are no different then the dishonest Pharisees!

    I only reject the Pagan interpretation of human sacrifice. Secondary opinions about Jesus from sacrifice minded people mean nothing to me.  

    However, in order to justify your doctrine,  you need the unjust trial, you need the crowd that called for a guilty man to be set free, you need the unjust murder of Jesus, you need an innocent man to die because you are to lazy to own, confess and repent of your sins.

    Face your own sins instead of murdering Jesus as a substitute for your spiritually lazy butt!


    Things are not looking too good for you Colter.

    Romans 10:9   That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that ***God hath raised him from the dead***, *thou shalt be saved*.

    Colter;you deny the cricifixion and the resurrection.
    How can you claim to be born again?

    wakeup.


    I do not deny the resurrection liar! Jesus resurrected himself from the dead just as he said he would and I have said that over and over!

    You bear false witness and constantly lie, what a phony Christian you are!

    Colter


    Colter.

    You dont belief in the crucicixion.
    So how did Jesus die?
    Is it of old age?

    wakeup.


    There you go again liar,Jesus was killed by religious a-holes like you and they used their mam made scripture to justify it!

    Colter


    Colter.

    Thats was the crucifiction,he was hanged on the cross for the sins of the world.
    That was prophesied hundreds of years before.
    He could have called many angels to protect him.

    That was Gods will,Gods gift to us to show his love to us.
    luke 22:42.–Father if thou be willing REMOVE THIS CUP FROM ME: NEVERTHELESS,*NOT MY WILL*,*BUT THINE,BE DONE*.

    You are insinuating that men is stronger than God.

    wakeup.


    No, Jesus never said he would die as a sacrifice, the Pagan Christians added that.

    From the beginning of the gospel of Jesus he taught that God was already a loving and forgiving Father, you and the Jews don't like that, you don't know how to confess and repent, so you substitute and Innocent man for your laziness.

    Yours is the religion of darkness and death.

    Colter


    Colter.

    You seem so sure about your understanding.
    Where does it say that Jesus was not sacrficed for our sins.

    But he was just assassinated by the jews,and he could not defend himself ,because they are stronger than God.
    The king of the jews could not defend himself;he has no army to defend himself.

    Gods only begotten Son was taken in the prime of his life,
    and nothing could be done about it.
    You are picturing Jehovah God as a lame God,but dont realise it. Thats what they have done to you.

    wakeup.


    Jesus told us the meaning of his death, that he would resurrect himself to prove his authority, plus it was the will of the Father for him to experience all that his co-created children experience….and he succeeded. It was an act of love.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Stop and think for a moment.

    If Jesus could resurrect himself;then he was not really dead.
    Therfore a faked death. Therefore death is not really death.
    Therefore God was lying when he said that the dead knows nothing that is under the sun.

    It was his redeemer, the Lord of host that resurrected him.
    Destroy this temple,and in three days I will restore it.
    That was God the father speaking through Jesus.

    wakeup.

    #354296
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 19 2013,02:03)

    Quote (Colter @ May 19 2013,01:43)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,23:47)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,22:01)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,17:03)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,13:25)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,06:45)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,04:29)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,01:24)

    Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,00:23)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,23:49)
    Colter.

    You have **rejected** the greatest gift from God to mankind.

    John 3:16   *For God so loved the world*, that ***he gave his only begotten Son***, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    Therefore you have rejected life.
    Satan is very pleased with you;keep on praising God with your lips,and deny him the same time; may God have mercy on your soul.

    wakeup.


    You are a liar! You continually misrepresent what I have said because you are no different then the dishonest Pharisees!

    I only reject the Pagan interpretation of human sacrifice. Secondary opinions about Jesus from sacrifice minded people mean nothing to me.  

    However, in order to justify your doctrine,  you need the unjust trial, you need the crowd that called for a guilty man to be set free, you need the unjust murder of Jesus, you need an innocent man to die because you are to lazy to own, confess and repent of your sins.

    Face your own sins instead of murdering Jesus as a substitute for your spiritually lazy butt!


    Things are not looking too good for you Colter.

    Romans 10:9   That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that ***God hath raised him from the dead***, *thou shalt be saved*.

    Colter;you deny the cricifixion and the resurrection.
    How can you claim to be born again?

    wakeup.


    I do not deny the resurrection liar! Jesus resurrected himself from the dead just as he said he would and I have said that over and over!

    You bear false witness and constantly lie, what a phony Christian you are!

    Colter


    Colter.

    You dont belief in the crucicixion.
    So how did Jesus die?
    Is it of old age?

    wakeup.


    There you go again liar,Jesus was killed by religious a-holes like you and they used their mam made scripture to justify it!

    Colter


    Colter.

    Thats was the crucifiction,he was hanged on the cross for the sins of the world.
    That was prophesied hundreds of years before.
    He could have called many angels to protect him.

    That was Gods will,Gods gift to us to show his love to us.
    luke 22:42.–Father if thou be willing REMOVE THIS CUP FROM ME: NEVERTHELESS,*NOT MY WILL*,*BUT THINE,BE DONE*.

    You are insinuating that men is stronger than God.

    wakeup.


    No, Jesus never said he would die as a sacrifice, the Pagan Christians added that.

    From the beginning of the gospel of Jesus he taught that God was already a loving and forgiving Father, you and the Jews don't like that, you don't know how to confess and repent, so you substitute and Innocent man for your laziness.

    Yours is the religion of darkness and death.

    Colter


    Colter.

    You seem so sure about your understanding.
    Where does it say that Jesus was not sacrficed for our sins.

    But he was just assassinated by the jews,and he could not defend himself ,because they are stronger than God.
    The king of the jews could not defend himself;he has no army to defend himself.

    Gods only begotten Son was taken in the prime of his life,
    and nothing could be done about it.
    You are picturing Jehovah God as a lame God,but dont realise it. Thats what they have done to you.

    wakeup.


    Jesus told us the meaning of his death, that he would resurrect himself to prove his authority, plus it was the will of the Father for him to experience all that his co-created children experience….and he succeeded. It was an act of love.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Stop and think for a moment.

    If Jesus could resurrect himself;then he was not really dead.
    Therfore a faked death. Therefore death is not really death.
    Therefore God was lying when he said that the dead knows nothing that is under the sun.

    It was his redeemer, the Lord of host that resurrected him.
    Destroy this temple,and in three days I will restore it.
    That was God the father speaking through Jesus.

    wakeup.


    I thought about it, I do understand the point you were trying to make, however Wakeup, Jesus' resurrected a likeness of his former tabernacle, one that would appear and disappear.

    It was the mortal flesh that died, not the eternal Son of God.

    When Jesus came down from heaven, a fleshly human form was added to his person in a miraculous way. It was the flesh that died, not the person of the incarnate Son.

    John 2:19-21

    Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? But he spake of the temple of his body.

    Jesus did raise his body up just like he said he would.

    Colter

    #354297
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Colter.

    The fact is that God was speaking through Jesus,always.
    Everything what I hear my Father say,that I speak.
    Everything what I see my Father do, that I do.
    I myself can not do anything.

    So far you have rejected all scriptures,therefore you are preaching another Jesus.
    Not the Jesus of the bible, but of the ub.

    wakeup.

    #354298
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 19 2013,07:55)
    Colter.

    The fact is that God was speaking through Jesus,always.
    Everything what I hear my Father say,that I speak.
    Everything what I see my Father do, that I do.
    I myself can not do anything.

    So far you have rejected all scriptures,therefore you are preaching another Jesus.
    Not the Jesus of the bible, but of the ub.

    wakeup.


    Oh, so God and Jesus both died, that's rich!

    The incarnate spirit of the Son-Word resurrected a likeness of the human Jesus in order to prove his authority just like he said he would.

    You should concentrate more on the word of Jesus and not the secondary opinions added in the book about him.

    Colter

    #354299
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ May 19 2013,08:00)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 19 2013,07:55)
    Colter.

    The fact is that God was speaking through Jesus,always.
    Everything what I hear my Father say,that I speak.
    Everything what I see my Father do, that I do.
    I myself can not do anything.

    So far you have rejected all scriptures,therefore you are preaching another Jesus.
    Not the Jesus of the bible, but of the ub.

    wakeup.


    Oh, so God and Jesus both died, that's rich!

    The incarnate spirit of the Son-Word resurrected a likeness of the human Jesus in order to prove his authority just like he said he would.

    You should concentrate more on the word of Jesus and not the secondary opinions added in the book about him.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Incline thine ear, God was speaking THROUGH JESUS.
    GOD THE FATHER IS NOT JESUS.
    JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS, NOT THE FATHER.
    ELI, ELI, LAMA, SABACHTANI. JESUS CRYING TO HIS FATHER.

    wakeup.

    #354300
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ May 17 2013,21:54)

    Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2013,17:51)

    Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2013,05:39)

    Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2013,01:33)
    Jealousy:  is a concern for what belongs to you
    Envy:  is a concern for what belongs to others


    Hi Colter,

    Do you agree with these definitions?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Colter?


    No Ed


    Why not?

    #354301
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 19 2013,08:56)

    Quote (Colter @ May 19 2013,08:00)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 19 2013,07:55)
    Colter.

    The fact is that God was speaking through Jesus,always.
    Everything what I hear my Father say,that I speak.
    Everything what I see my Father do, that I do.
    I myself can not do anything.

    So far you have rejected all scriptures,therefore you are preaching another Jesus.
    Not the Jesus of the bible, but of the ub.

    wakeup.


    Oh, so God and Jesus both died, that's rich!

    The incarnate spirit of the Son-Word resurrected a likeness of the human Jesus in order to prove his authority just like he said he would.

    You should concentrate more on the word of Jesus and not the secondary opinions added in the book about him.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Incline thine ear, God was speaking THROUGH JESUS.
    GOD THE FATHER IS NOT JESUS.
    JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS, NOT THE FATHER.
    ELI, ELI, LAMA, SABACHTANI. JESUS CRYING TO HIS FATHER.

    wakeup.


    Kinda, Jesus is a personification of the Father, but it was Jesus talking and Jesus who resurrected himself. You just don't believe him. Jesus (Christ Michael) is the eternal creator Son of this and many other inhabited worlds.

    The creator Sons are the Fathers of the local universes.

    Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? But he spake of the temple of his body.

    Colter

    #354302
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ May 19 2013,08:57)

    Quote (Colter @ May 17 2013,21:54)

    Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2013,17:51)

    Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2013,05:39)

    Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2013,01:33)
    Jealousy:  is a concern for what belongs to you
    Envy:  is a concern for what belongs to others


    Hi Colter,

    Do you agree with these definitions?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Colter?


    No Ed


    Why not?


    Sometimes Edj you are just strange, I answered your question, but you clipped out two words from my large answer and asked again. Are you deliberately being a #####?

    Here is the answer AGAIN to your question:

    No Ed, In this context I don't. I think you are soft peddling a negative emotional characteristic because it has been erroneously applied to deity. God doesn't have the character flaws of his immature children. This is just another example of forcing a square peg into a round hole, rationalizing something that is not true just because it is in a so called “holy book.”

    Jealousy is not a characteristic of God, it is indicative of insecurity. Jealousy is not Love.

    (2017.3) 188:4.8 When once you grasp the idea of God as a true and loving Father, the only concept which Jesus ever taught, you must forthwith, in all consistency, utterly abandon all those primitive notions about God as an offended monarch, a stern and all-powerful ruler whose chief delight is to detect his subjects in wrongdoing and to see that they are adequately punished, unless some being almost equal to himself should volunteer to suffer for them, to die as a substitute and in their stead. The whole idea of ransom and atonement is incompatible with the concept of God as it was taught and exemplified by Jesus of Nazareth. The infinite love of God is not secondary to anything in the divine nature.

    Colter

    #354303
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Colter,

    How do you define the word “Jealousy” if it is not a concern for what belongs to you?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #354304
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ May 19 2013,13:04)
    Hi Colter,

    How do you define the word “Jealousy” if it is not a concern for what belongs to you?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Emotionally insecure.

    God is Love “Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast”

    Colter

    #354305
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ May 19 2013,13:33)

    Quote (Ed J @ May 19 2013,13:04)
    Hi Colter,

    How do you define the word “Jealousy” if it is not a concern for what belongs to you?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Emotionally insecure.

    God is Love   “Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast”

    Colter


    Hi Colter,

    So Jealousy means emotionally insecure?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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