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God’s Unchanging Character
(57.6) 4:3.1 All too long has man thought of God as one like himself. God is not, never was, and never will be jealous of man or any other being in the universe of universes. Knowing that the Creator Son intended man to be the masterpiece of the planetary creation, to be the ruler of all the earth, the sight of his being dominated by his own baser passions, the spectacle of his bowing down before idols of wood, stone, gold, and selfish ambition — these sordid scenes stir God and his Sons to be jealous for man, but never of him.
(57.7) 4:3.2 The eternal God is incapable of wrath and anger in the sense of these human emotions and as man understands such reactions. These sentiments are mean and despicable; they are hardly worthy of being called human, much less divine; and such attitudes are utterly foreign to the perfect nature and gracious character of the Universal Father.
(58.1) 4:3.3 Much, very much, of the difficulty which Urantia mortals have in understanding God is due to the far-reaching consequences of the Lucifer rebellion and the Caligastia betrayal. On worlds not segregated by sin, the evolutionary races are able to formulate far better ideas of the Universal Father; they suffer less from confusion, distortion, and perversion of concept.
(58.2) 4:3.4 God repents of nothing he has ever done, now does, or ever will do. He is all-wise as well as all-powerful. Man’s wisdom grows out of the trials and errors of human experience; God’s wisdom consists in the unqualified perfection of his infinite universe insight, and this divine foreknowledge effectively directs the creative free will.
(58.3) 4:3.5 The Universal Father never does anything that causes subsequent sorrow or regret, but the will creatures of the planning and making of his Creator personalities in the outlying universes, by their unfortunate choosing, sometimes occasion emotions of divine sorrow in the personalities of their Creator parents. But though the Father neither makes mistakes, harbors regrets, nor experiences sorrows, he is a being with a father’s affection, and his heart is undoubtedly grieved when his children fail to attain the spiritual levels they are capable of reaching with the assistance which has been so freely provided by the spiritual-attainment plans and the mortal-ascension policies of the universes.
(58.4) 4:3.6 The infinite goodness of the Father is beyond the comprehension of the finite mind of time; hence must there always be afforded a contrast with comparative evil (not sin) for the effective exhibition of all phases of relative goodness. Perfection of divine goodness can be discerned by mortal imperfection of insight only because it stands in contrastive association with relative imperfection in the relationships of time and matter in the motions of space.
(58.5) 4:3.7 The character of God is infinitely superhuman; therefore must such a nature of divinity be personalized, as in the divine Sons, before it can even be faith-grasped by the finite mind of man. The Urantia Book 1955
Colter
Quote (Colter @ May 15 2013,21:53) God’s Unchanging Character (57.6) 4:3.1 All too long has man thought of God as one like himself. God is not, never was, and never will be jealous of man or any other being in the universe of universes. Knowing that the Creator Son intended man to be the masterpiece of the planetary creation, to be the ruler of all the earth, the sight of his being dominated by his own baser passions, the spectacle of his bowing down before idols of wood, stone, gold, and selfish ambition — these sordid scenes stir God and his Sons to be jealous for man, but never of him.
(57.7) 4:3.2 The eternal God is incapable of wrath and anger in the sense of these human emotions and as man understands such reactions. These sentiments are mean and despicable; they are hardly worthy of being called human, much less divine; and such attitudes are utterly foreign to the perfect nature and gracious character of the Universal Father.
(58.1) 4:3.3 Much, very much, of the difficulty which Urantia mortals have in understanding God is due to the far-reaching consequences of the Lucifer rebellion and the Caligastia betrayal. On worlds not segregated by sin, the evolutionary races are able to formulate far better ideas of the Universal Father; they suffer less from confusion, distortion, and perversion of concept.
(58.2) 4:3.4 God repents of nothing he has ever done, now does, or ever will do. He is all-wise as well as all-powerful. Man’s wisdom grows out of the trials and errors of human experience; God’s wisdom consists in the unqualified perfection of his infinite universe insight, and this divine foreknowledge effectively directs the creative free will.
(58.3) 4:3.5 The Universal Father never does anything that causes subsequent sorrow or regret, but the will creatures of the planning and making of his Creator personalities in the outlying universes, by their unfortunate choosing, sometimes occasion emotions of divine sorrow in the personalities of their Creator parents. But though the Father neither makes mistakes, harbors regrets, nor experiences sorrows, he is a being with a father’s affection, and his heart is undoubtedly grieved when his children fail to attain the spiritual levels they are capable of reaching with the assistance which has been so freely provided by the spiritual-attainment plans and the mortal-ascension policies of the universes.
(58.4) 4:3.6 The infinite goodness of the Father is beyond the comprehension of the finite mind of time; hence must there always be afforded a contrast with comparative evil (not sin) for the effective exhibition of all phases of relative goodness. Perfection of divine goodness can be discerned by mortal imperfection of insight only because it stands in contrastive association with relative imperfection in the relationships of time and matter in the motions of space.
(58.5) 4:3.7 The character of God is infinitely superhuman; therefore must such a nature of divinity be personalized, as in the divine Sons, before it can even be faith-grasped by the finite mind of man. The Urantia Book 1955
Colter
Colter.All great and tickling words about God.
But God can not be mesmerised by mens sweet words.
The proof must be in the pudding.Gods love for us is true love,and there is no true love without jealousy.
wakeup.
Quote Colter. All great and tickling words about God.
But God can not be mesmerised by mens sweet words.
The proof must be in the pudding.Gods love for us is true love,and there is no true love without jealousy.
wakeup.
Wakeup,
This is a good opportunity for me to make a point.
It is the God within your heart that recognizes “sweet words”, that is the Rock that Jesus founded the kingdom on, the witness of the “pure spirit” within you that recognizes “truth”. We are called to leave the retarding security of institutional religion, dogma, doctrine and creeds for a real faith based relationship with the living God.
Jealousy is a form of emotional insecurity, God is secure, you are not if you are jealous of others. The religious men who wrote much of the scripture just assume that God thinks like man thinks.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ May 16 2013,01:55) Quote Colter. All great and tickling words about God.
But God can not be mesmerised by mens sweet words.
The proof must be in the pudding.Gods love for us is true love,and there is no true love without jealousy.
wakeup.
Wakeup,
This is a good opportunity for me to make a point.
It is the God within your heart that recognizes “sweet words”, that is the Rock that Jesus founded the kingdom on, the witness of the “pure spirit” within you that recognizes “truth”. We are called to leave the retarding security of institutional religion, dogma, doctrine and creeds for a real faith based relationship with the living God.
Jealousy is a form of emotional insecurity, God is secure, you are not if you are jealous of others. The religious men who wrote much of the scripture just assume that God thinks like man thinks.
Colter
Colter.Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for **I the LORD thy God am a jealous God**, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, **whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God**:
Deuteronomy 4:24 For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, *even a jealous God*.
Deuteronomy 5:9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for **I the LORD thy God am a jealous God**, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
Deuteronomy 6:15 **(For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you)** lest the anger of the LORD thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth.
Joshua 24:19 And Joshua said unto the people, Ye cannot serve the LORD: for he is an holy God; **he is a jealous God**; he will not forgive your transgressions nor your sins.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ May 16 2013,04:04) Quote (Colter @ May 16 2013,01:55) Quote Colter. All great and tickling words about God.
But God can not be mesmerised by mens sweet words.
The proof must be in the pudding.Gods love for us is true love,and there is no true love without jealousy.
wakeup.
Wakeup,
This is a good opportunity for me to make a point.
It is the God within your heart that recognizes “sweet words”, that is the Rock that Jesus founded the kingdom on, the witness of the “pure spirit” within you that recognizes “truth”. We are called to leave the retarding security of institutional religion, dogma, doctrine and creeds for a real faith based relationship with the living God.
Jealousy is a form of emotional insecurity, God is secure, you are not if you are jealous of others. The religious men who wrote much of the scripture just assume that God thinks like man thinks.
Colter
Colter.Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for **I the LORD thy God am a jealous God**, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, **whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God**:
Deuteronomy 4:24 For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, *even a jealous God*.
Deuteronomy 5:9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for **I the LORD thy God am a jealous God**, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
Deuteronomy 6:15 **(For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you)** lest the anger of the LORD thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth.
Joshua 24:19 And Joshua said unto the people, Ye cannot serve the LORD: for he is an holy God; **he is a jealous God**; he will not forgive your transgressions nor your sins.
wakeup.
Written by men in a less enlightened age, Jesus proved them wrong.Colter
Quote (Colter @ May 16 2013,04:25) Quote (Wakeup @ May 16 2013,04:04) Quote (Colter @ May 16 2013,01:55) Quote Colter. All great and tickling words about God.
But God can not be mesmerised by mens sweet words.
The proof must be in the pudding.Gods love for us is true love,and there is no true love without jealousy.
wakeup.
Wakeup,
This is a good opportunity for me to make a point.
It is the God within your heart that recognizes “sweet words”, that is the Rock that Jesus founded the kingdom on, the witness of the “pure spirit” within you that recognizes “truth”. We are called to leave the retarding security of institutional religion, dogma, doctrine and creeds for a real faith based relationship with the living God.
Jealousy is a form of emotional insecurity, God is secure, you are not if you are jealous of others. The religious men who wrote much of the scripture just assume that God thinks like man thinks.
Colter
Colter.Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for **I the LORD thy God am a jealous God**, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, **whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God**:
Deuteronomy 4:24 For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, *even a jealous God*.
Deuteronomy 5:9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for **I the LORD thy God am a jealous God**, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
Deuteronomy 6:15 **(For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you)** lest the anger of the LORD thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth.
Joshua 24:19 And Joshua said unto the people, Ye cannot serve the LORD: for he is an holy God; **he is a jealous God**; he will not forgive your transgressions nor your sins.
wakeup.
Written by men in a less enlightened age, Jesus proved them wrong.Colter
Colter.So just about the whole bible, is written by men,except some scriptures that can support your doctrine.
AND THE U.B IS WRITTEN BY THE HAND OF YOUR GOD.
WHY WOULD THE U.B STILL NEED SOME SCRIPTURES FOR SUPPORT? IS IT A LAME BOOK, WITHOUT SUPPORT?
JUST LIKE THE QUR'AN,IT NEEDS THE SCRIPTURES FOR SUPPORT.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ May 16 2013,21:38) Quote (Colter @ May 16 2013,04:25) Quote (Wakeup @ May 16 2013,04:04) Quote (Colter @ May 16 2013,01:55) Quote Colter. All great and tickling words about God.
But God can not be mesmerised by mens sweet words.
The proof must be in the pudding.Gods love for us is true love,and there is no true love without jealousy.
wakeup.
Wakeup,
This is a good opportunity for me to make a point.
It is the God within your heart that recognizes “sweet words”, that is the Rock that Jesus founded the kingdom on, the witness of the “pure spirit” within you that recognizes “truth”. We are called to leave the retarding security of institutional religion, dogma, doctrine and creeds for a real faith based relationship with the living God.
Jealousy is a form of emotional insecurity, God is secure, you are not if you are jealous of others. The religious men who wrote much of the scripture just assume that God thinks like man thinks.
Colter
Colter.Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for **I the LORD thy God am a jealous God**, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, **whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God**:
Deuteronomy 4:24 For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, *even a jealous God*.
Deuteronomy 5:9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for **I the LORD thy God am a jealous God**, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
Deuteronomy 6:15 **(For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you)** lest the anger of the LORD thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth.
Joshua 24:19 And Joshua said unto the people, Ye cannot serve the LORD: for he is an holy God; **he is a jealous God**; he will not forgive your transgressions nor your sins.
wakeup.
Written by men in a less enlightened age, Jesus proved them wrong.Colter
Colter.So just about the whole bible, is written by men,except some scriptures that can support your doctrine.
AND THE U.B IS WRITTEN BY THE HAND OF YOUR GOD.
WHY WOULD THE U.B STILL NEED SOME SCRIPTURES FOR SUPPORT? IS IT A LAME BOOK, WITHOUT SUPPORT?
JUST LIKE THE QUR'AN,IT NEEDS THE SCRIPTURES FOR SUPPORT.wakeup.
Neither the Bible or the UB was written by GodThe UB stands on it's own as it is the 5th epochal revelation written by angel like beings who existed before the earth. I just use the Bible for your benefit.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ May 16 2013,22:19) Quote (Wakeup @ May 16 2013,21:38) Quote (Colter @ May 16 2013,04:25) Quote (Wakeup @ May 16 2013,04:04) Quote (Colter @ May 16 2013,01:55) Quote Colter. All great and tickling words about God.
But God can not be mesmerised by mens sweet words.
The proof must be in the pudding.Gods love for us is true love,and there is no true love without jealousy.
wakeup.
Wakeup,
This is a good opportunity for me to make a point.
It is the God within your heart that recognizes “sweet words”, that is the Rock that Jesus founded the kingdom on, the witness of the “pure spirit” within you that recognizes “truth”. We are called to leave the retarding security of institutional religion, dogma, doctrine and creeds for a real faith based relationship with the living God.
Jealousy is a form of emotional insecurity, God is secure, you are not if you are jealous of others. The religious men who wrote much of the scripture just assume that God thinks like man thinks.
Colter
Colter.Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for **I the LORD thy God am a jealous God**, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, **whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God**:
Deuteronomy 4:24 For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, *even a jealous God*.
Deuteronomy 5:9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for **I the LORD thy God am a jealous God**, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
Deuteronomy 6:15 **(For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you)** lest the anger of the LORD thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth.
Joshua 24:19 And Joshua said unto the people, Ye cannot serve the LORD: for he is an holy God; **he is a jealous God**; he will not forgive your transgressions nor your sins.
wakeup.
Written by men in a less enlightened age, Jesus proved them wrong.Colter
Colter.So just about the whole bible, is written by men,except some scriptures that can support your doctrine.
AND THE U.B IS WRITTEN BY THE HAND OF YOUR GOD.
WHY WOULD THE U.B STILL NEED SOME SCRIPTURES FOR SUPPORT? IS IT A LAME BOOK, WITHOUT SUPPORT?
JUST LIKE THE QUR'AN,IT NEEDS THE SCRIPTURES FOR SUPPORT.wakeup.
Neither the Bible or the UB was written by GodThe UB stands on it's own as it is the 5th epochal revelation written by angel like beings who existed before the earth. I just use the Bible for your benefit.
Colter
Colter.So you claim that the ub is written by some angel being.
And so you place all your faith on it.
The Holy bible is not reliable,but the ub is? is that it?You dont seem to understand the whole concept.
Jesus said: The words that I speak to you they are spirit.
It is the spirit that quickens.
The scriptures are the words spoken in print;so we also can enjoy from it. Those words are spirit,for it gives us knowledge and faith.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ May 16 2013,04:04) Quote (Colter @ May 16 2013,01:55) Quote Colter. All great and tickling words about God.
But God can not be mesmerised by mens sweet words.
The proof must be in the pudding.Gods love for us is true love, and there is no true love without jealousy.
wakeup.
Wakeup,
This is a good opportunity for me to make a point.
It is the God within your heart that recognizes “sweet words”, that is the Rock that Jesus founded the kingdom on, the witness of the “pure spirit” within you that recognizes “truth”. We are called to leave the retarding security of institutional religion, dogma, doctrine and creeds for a real faith based relationship with the living God.
Jealousy is a form of emotional insecurity, God is secure, you are not if you are jealous of others. The religious men who wrote much of the scripture just assume that God thinks like man thinks.
Colter
Colter.Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for **I the LORD thy God am a jealous God**, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, **whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God**:
Deuteronomy 4:24 For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, *even a jealous God*.
Deuteronomy 5:9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for **I the LORD thy God am a jealous God**, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
Deuteronomy 6:15 **(For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you)** lest the anger of the LORD thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth.
Joshua 24:19 And Joshua said unto the people, Ye cannot serve the LORD: for he is an holy God; **he is a jealous God**; he will not forgive your transgressions nor your sins.
wakeup.
Hi Colter,Perhaps you don't know the difference between jealousy and envy.
Jealousy: is a concern for what belongs to you
Envy: is a concern for what belongs to othersHope you know the difference now.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ May 17 2013,01:33) Quote (Wakeup @ May 16 2013,04:04) Quote (Colter @ May 16 2013,01:55) Quote Colter. All great and tickling words about God.
But God can not be mesmerised by mens sweet words.
The proof must be in the pudding.Gods love for us is true love, and there is no true love without jealousy.
wakeup.
Wakeup,
This is a good opportunity for me to make a point.
It is the God within your heart that recognizes “sweet words”, that is the Rock that Jesus founded the kingdom on, the witness of the “pure spirit” within you that recognizes “truth”. We are called to leave the retarding security of institutional religion, dogma, doctrine and creeds for a real faith based relationship with the living God.
Jealousy is a form of emotional insecurity, God is secure, you are not if you are jealous of others. The religious men who wrote much of the scripture just assume that God thinks like man thinks.
Colter
Colter.Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for **I the LORD thy God am a jealous God**, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, **whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God**:
Deuteronomy 4:24 For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, *even a jealous God*.
Deuteronomy 5:9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for **I the LORD thy God am a jealous God**, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
Deuteronomy 6:15 **(For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you)** lest the anger of the LORD thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth.
Joshua 24:19 And Joshua said unto the people, Ye cannot serve the LORD: for he is an holy God; **he is a jealous God**; he will not forgive your transgressions nor your sins.
wakeup.
Hi Colter,Perhaps you don't know the difference between jealousy and envy.
Jealousy: is a concern for what belongs to you
Envy: is a concern for what belongs to othersHope you know the difference now.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Edj,Man tends to create God in mans own image, hence this is reflected in the thinking of the authors of scripture. An Eye for an Eye, stoning people to death etc. Jesus reveled the real God, comparing Jesus to the dim view of the God portrayed by the OT should help you understand now.
Colter
Quote Colter. So you claim that the ub is written by some angel being.
And so you place all your faith on it.
The Holy bible is not reliable,but the ub is? is that it?You dont seem to understand the whole concept.
Jesus said: The words that I speak to you they are spirit.
It is the spirit that quickens.
The scriptures are the words spoken in print;so we also can enjoy from it. Those words are spirit,for it gives us knowledge and faith.wakeup.
Right, the Bible is ABOUT the Word of God, but that does not make it all similarly inspired. Much of the Bible is human.
Colter
Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2013,01:33) Jealousy: is a concern for what belongs to you
Envy: is a concern for what belongs to others
Hi Colter,Do you agree with these definitions?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Colter @ May 17 2013,03:31) Quote Colter. So you claim that the ub is written by some angel being.
And so you place all your faith on it.
The Holy bible is not reliable,but the ub is? is that it?You dont seem to understand the whole concept.
Jesus said: The words that I speak to you they are spirit.
It is the spirit that quickens.
The scriptures are the words spoken in print;so we also can enjoy from it. Those words are spirit,for it gives us knowledge and faith.wakeup.
Right, the Bible is ABOUT the Word of God, but that does not make it all similarly inspired. Much of the Bible is human.
Colter
Colter.2Tim.3:16. **All scripture** is given by *inspiration
of God*,and profitable for doctrine,for reproof,
for correction,for instruction in righteousness.Not just part of the bilble ,but *all*.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,06:11) Quote (Colter @ May 17 2013,03:31) Quote Colter. So you claim that the ub is written by some angel being.
And so you place all your faith on it.
The Holy bible is not reliable,but the ub is? is that it?You dont seem to understand the whole concept.
Jesus said: The words that I speak to you they are spirit.
It is the spirit that quickens.
The scriptures are the words spoken in print;so we also can enjoy from it. Those words are spirit,for it gives us knowledge and faith.wakeup.
Right, the Bible is ABOUT the Word of God, but that does not make it all similarly inspired. Much of the Bible is human.
Colter
Colter.2Tim.3:16. **All scripture** is given by *inspiration
of God*,and profitable for doctrine,for reproof,
for correction,for instruction in righteousness.Not just part of the bilble ,but *all*.
wakeup.
That wasn't scripture when it was written.The evil church uses authorty to control thinking, the authors of the Bible didn't even claim to be writing Gods word.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ May 17 2013,06:56) Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,06:11) Quote (Colter @ May 17 2013,03:31) Quote Colter. So you claim that the ub is written by some angel being.
And so you place all your faith on it.
The Holy bible is not reliable,but the ub is? is that it?You dont seem to understand the whole concept.
Jesus said: The words that I speak to you they are spirit.
It is the spirit that quickens.
The scriptures are the words spoken in print;so we also can enjoy from it. Those words are spirit,for it gives us knowledge and faith.wakeup.
Right, the Bible is ABOUT the Word of God, but that does not make it all similarly inspired. Much of the Bible is human.
Colter
Colter.2Tim.3:16. **All scripture** is given by *inspiration
of God*,and profitable for doctrine,for reproof,
for correction,for instruction in righteousness.Not just part of the bilble ,but *all*.
wakeup.
That wasn't scripture when it was written.The evil church uses authorty to control thinking, the authors of the Bible didn't even claim to be writing Gods word.
Colter
Colter.Where is the evidence of your information?
Dont just believe what they tell you.(remember satan, and his lies)
Believe in Gods information.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,08:18) Quote (Colter @ May 17 2013,06:56) Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,06:11) Quote (Colter @ May 17 2013,03:31) Quote Colter. So you claim that the ub is written by some angel being.
And so you place all your faith on it.
The Holy bible is not reliable,but the ub is? is that it?You dont seem to understand the whole concept.
Jesus said: The words that I speak to you they are spirit.
It is the spirit that quickens.
The scriptures are the words spoken in print;so we also can enjoy from it. Those words are spirit,for it gives us knowledge and faith.wakeup.
Right, the Bible is ABOUT the Word of God, but that does not make it all similarly inspired. Much of the Bible is human.
Colter
Colter.2Tim.3:16. **All scripture** is given by *inspiration
of God*,and profitable for doctrine,for reproof,
for correction,for instruction in righteousness.Not just part of the bilble ,but *all*.
wakeup.
That wasn't scripture when it was written.The evil church uses authorty to control thinking, the authors of the Bible didn't even claim to be writing Gods word.
Colter
Colter.Where is the evidence of your information?
Dont just believe what they tell you.(remember satan, and his lies)
Believe in Gods information.wakeup.
I don't believe in Satan.You will know the truth and the truth will make you free.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ May 17 2013,13:26) Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,08:18) Quote (Colter @ May 17 2013,06:56) Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,06:11) Quote (Colter @ May 17 2013,03:31) Quote Colter. So you claim that the ub is written by some angel being.
And so you place all your faith on it.
The Holy bible is not reliable,but the ub is? is that it?You dont seem to understand the whole concept.
Jesus said: The words that I speak to you they are spirit.
It is the spirit that quickens.
The scriptures are the words spoken in print;so we also can enjoy from it. Those words are spirit,for it gives us knowledge and faith.wakeup.
Right, the Bible is ABOUT the Word of God, but that does not make it all similarly inspired. Much of the Bible is human.
Colter
Colter.2Tim.3:16. **All scripture** is given by *inspiration
of God*,and profitable for doctrine,for reproof,
for correction,for instruction in righteousness.Not just part of the bilble ,but *all*.
wakeup.
That wasn't scripture when it was written.The evil church uses authorty to control thinking, the authors of the Bible didn't even claim to be writing Gods word.
Colter
Colter.Where is the evidence of your information?
Dont just believe what they tell you.(remember satan, and his lies)
Believe in Gods information.wakeup.
I don't believe in Satan.You will know the truth and the truth will make you free.
Colter
Colter.And the truth can only be found in scripture,
not some other means.wakeup.
Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2013,05:39) Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2013,01:33) Jealousy: is a concern for what belongs to you
Envy: is a concern for what belongs to others
Hi Colter,Do you agree with these definitions?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Colter?Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2013,17:51) Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2013,05:39) Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2013,01:33) Jealousy: is a concern for what belongs to you
Envy: is a concern for what belongs to others
Hi Colter,Do you agree with these definitions?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Colter?
No Ed, In this context I don't. I think you are soft peddling a negative emotional characteristic because it has been erroneously applied to deity. God doesn't have the character flaws of his immature children. This is just another example of forcing a square peg into a round hole, rationalizing something that is not true just because it is in a so called “holy book.”Jealousy is not a characteristic of God, it is indicative of insecurity. Jealousy is not Love.
(2017.3) 188:4.8 When once you grasp the idea of God as a true and loving Father, the only concept which Jesus ever taught, you must forthwith, in all consistency, utterly abandon all those primitive notions about God as an offended monarch, a stern and all-powerful ruler whose chief delight is to detect his subjects in wrongdoing and to see that they are adequately punished, unless some being almost equal to himself should volunteer to suffer for them, to die as a substitute and in their stead. The whole idea of ransom and atonement is incompatible with the concept of God as it was taught and exemplified by Jesus of Nazareth. The infinite love of God is not secondary to anything in the divine nature.
Colter
Colter.
You have **rejected** the greatest gift from God to mankind.
John 3:16 *For God so loved the world*, that ***he gave his only begotten Son***, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Therefore you have rejected life.
Satan is very pleased with you;keep on praising God with your lips,and deny him the same time; may God have mercy on your soul.wakeup.
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