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Quote (t8 @ Aug. 06 2011,11:40) Is climate change being used to set up a world government?
The hot air coming out of Fox News is enough to fry the planet.Stuart
I am not on either side of the fence here. It is good to hear the views on the other side. Some people are so status quo that they cannot think for themselves. This goes for the existence of God too.
Quote (Stu @ Aug. 06 2011,13:09) Quote (t8 @ Aug. 06 2011,11:40) Is climate change being used to set up a world government?
The hot air coming out of Fox News is enough to fry the planet.Stuart
Read the Climategate papers. It is in there.A global carbon credit system needs a global government to implement it. Getting all countries to sign up is probably a harder approach.
The preceding links to an article that has the following quote at the end:
“CERN, and the Danes, have in all likelihood found the path to the Holy Grail of climate science. But the religion of climate science won’t yet permit a celebration of the find.”
Science is great, when it is actually practiced, but in many scientific institutions, science is secondary to politics. It's human nature, and scientists are not immune.
Interesting link.
So the sun that heats up the earth is the cause of the earth heating up. Well who would have guessed.
I remember reading back in 2006 (or thereabouts), the explanation of the extra red spot on Jupiter was the result of the sun. The argument was, if the sun is affecting Jupiter which is further from us, then what about the Earth.
I still remain open minded on this subject, especially since scientists have probably been wrong more times than they have been right.
In case the page is moved, I will scrape the content and post here:
====================================================New, convincing evidence indicates global warming is caused by cosmic rays and the sun — not humans
The science is now all-but-settled on global warming, convincing new evidence demonstrates, but Al Gore, the IPCC and other global warming doomsayers won’t be celebrating. The new findings point to cosmic rays and the sun — not human activities — as the dominant controller of climate on Earth.
The research, published with little fanfare this week in the prestigious journal Nature, comes from über-prestigious CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, one of the world’s largest centres for scientific research involving 60 countries and 8,000 scientists at more than 600 universities and national laboratories. CERN is the organization that invented the World Wide Web, that built the multi-billion dollar Large Hadron Collider, and that has now built a pristinely clean stainless steel chamber that precisely recreated the Earth’s atmosphere.
In this chamber, 63 CERN scientists from 17 European and American institutes have done what global warming doomsayers said could never be done — demonstrate that cosmic rays promote the formation of molecules that in Earth’s atmosphere can grow and seed clouds, the cloudier and thus cooler it will be. Because the sun’s magnetic field controls how many cosmic rays reach Earth’s atmosphere (the stronger the sun’s magnetic field, the more it shields Earth from incoming cosmic rays from space), the sun determines the temperature on Earth.
The hypothesis that cosmic rays and the sun hold the key to the global warming debate has been Enemy No. 1 to the global warming establishment ever since it was first proposed by two scientists from the Danish Space Research Institute, at a 1996 scientific conference in the U.K. Within one day, the chairman of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Bert Bolin, denounced the theory, saying, “I find the move from this pair scientifically extremely naive and irresponsible.” He then set about discrediting the theory, any journalist that gave the theory cre dence, and most of all the Danes presenting the theory — they soon found themselves vilified, marginalized and starved of funding, despite their impeccable scientific credentials.
The mobilization to rally the press against the Danes worked brilliantly, with one notable exception. Nigel Calder, a former editor of The New Scientist who attended that 1996 conference, would not be cowed. Himself a physicist, Mr. Calder became convinced of the merits of the argument and a year later, following a lecture he gave at a CERN conference, so too did Jasper Kirkby, a CERN scientist in attendance. Mr. Kirkby then convinced the CERN bureaucracy of the theory’s importance and developed a plan to create a cloud chamber — he called it CLOUD, for “Cosmics Leaving OUtdoor Droplets.”
But Mr. Kirkby made the same tactical error that the Danes had — not realizing how politicized the global warming issue was, he candidly shared his views with the scientific community.
“The theory will probably be able to account for somewhere between a half and the whole of the increase in the Earth’s temperature that we have seen in the last century,” Mr. Kirkby told the scientific press in 1998, explaining that global warming may be part of a natural cycle in the Earth’s temperature.
The global warming establishment sprang into action, pressured the Western governments that control CERN, and almost immediately succeeded in suspending CLOUD. It took Mr. Kirkby almost a decade of negotiation with his superiors, and who knows how many compromises and unspoken commitments, to convince the CERN bureaucracy to allow the project to proceed. And years more to create the cloud chamber and convincingly validate the Danes’ groundbreaking theory.
Yet this spectacular success will be largely unrecognized by the general public for years — this column will be the first that most readers have heard of it — because CERN remains too afraid of offending its government masters to admit its success. Weeks ago, CERN formerly decided to muzzle Mr. Kirby and other members of his team to avoid “the highly political arena of the climate change debate,” telling them “to present the results clearly but not interpret them” and to downplay the results by “mak[ing] clear that cosmic radiation is only one of many parameters.” The CERN study and press release is written in bureaucratese and the version of Mr. Kirkby’s study that appears in the print edition of Nature censored the most eye-popping graph — only those who know where to look in an online supplement will see the striking potency of cosmic rays in creating the conditions for seeding clouds.
CERN, and the Danes, have in all likelihood found the path to the Holy Grail of climate science. But the religion of climate science won’t yet permit a celebration of the find.
Quote (Stu @ Aug. 06 2011,12:41) I never claimed any evidence for no god, although I could if you wanted. You would have to tell me what a god is, first.
At least you admit this now.Case closed. You have no proof that there is no God.
That is what I have said all along.I also said that Atheists pose no intellectual threat to the existence of God. You affirm this.
I will say this politely. Put up or shut up as they say.
Quote (t8 @ Sep. 07 2011,10:53) Quote (Stu @ Aug. 06 2011,12:41) I never claimed any evidence for no god, although I could if you wanted. You would have to tell me what a god is, first.
At least you admit this now.Case closed. You have no proof that there is no God.
That is what I have said all along.I also said that Atheists pose no intellectual threat to the existence of God. You affirm this.
I will say this politely. Put up or shut up as they say.
Hi T8,I have provided Stuart with much evidence for God's existence,
but unfortunately evidence is not what Stuart seeks.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgit seems that every so often there is a need to unite in a big project,we had two previous ones called first and second wold war,we have fund that at this point it would not pay to make another one ,but for good business practices we (the politicians of this world)need to come up with a good world project,of cause it as to be better than localizing the cost to special parties,so what is best for all parties is what is now on the agenda or almost all,SO LET THE COMMERCIAL AND FINANCE TAKE OVER BUT LETS MAKE MONEY WITH THE SHOVEL,PEOPLE ARE DUMMY AND FOLLOW A GOOD PRESENTATION EVENT WHEN IT IS FAULTY THEY ARE SO DUMMY THAT THEY FILL IN THE GAPS MISSING IN THE PRESENTATION AND ARGUE ABOUT IT FOR YEARS TO COME,AND THIS PROJECT IS A GOOD ONE CALLED WORLD WARMINGWHAT DOES IT REALLY MEANS
ANY ONE GUESS;
WELL WHAT IT REALLY MEAN IN PRACTICE
IS THIS ;CHANGES IN OUR HABITS OF DOING THING LIKE USING TRANSPORTATION,BANKING,BUILDING,UTILITIES,WORKING, ENTERTAINMENT, SOCIALIZING,ECT….THE COST OF ALL OF THIS OF CAUSE HAS TO BE GIVEN BY THE PEOPLE , THERE IS NO WAY THAT WE COULD EXPECT POLITICIAN LEADERS TO PAY FOR IT ,
THIS IS THE BIGGEST SALE EVER ,BECAUSE IT IS THE LAST .IF THIS FAILS WERE ARE WE GOING NEXT
THIS IS IT ,CAN NOT GO TO THE MOON OR MARSSO THIS IS PEACE TALK IN ALL DIRECTION ,IT IS NO TO WAR , ANY ONE REMEMBER WHAT PAUL SAID THE END WILL ONLY COME WEN ALL WILL CRY OUT PEACE ,PEACE ,
I LOVE YOU ALL
i FORGOT SOME THING ,THEY WILL TRY TO DO GOOD ,BUT CAN THEY
IT SEEMS LIKE A ;A LIAR,MURDERER, THIEF, CORRUPT MIND,A VIOLENT BEHAVIOR , SUDDENLY WANT TO CHANGE TO DO GOOD ;;CAN HE
CAN HE CHANGE THE PAST no,THIS IS THE PROBLEM THAT WILL DESTROY ALL THE GOOD WILL OF MEN .Quote (terraricca @ June 26 2012,13:08) WELL WHAT IT REALLY MEAN IN PRACTICE IS THIS ;CHANGES IN OUR HABITS OF DOING THING LIKE USING TRANSPORTATION,BANKING,BUILDING,UTILITIES,WORKING, ENTERTAINMENT, SOCIALIZING,ECT….
It isn't going to not happen just because you don't want it to be real.Stuart
Quote (Stu @ June 28 2012,00:21) Quote (terraricca @ June 26 2012,13:08) WELL WHAT IT REALLY MEAN IN PRACTICE IS THIS ;CHANGES IN OUR HABITS OF DOING THING LIKE USING TRANSPORTATION,BANKING,BUILDING,UTILITIES,WORKING, ENTERTAINMENT, SOCIALIZING,ECT….
It isn't going to not happen just because you don't want it to be real.Stuart
Stu.??? Please translate
stu
“Give me the control of the credit of a nation, and I care not who makes the laws.” The famous boastful statement of Nathaniel Meyer Rothschild, speaking to a group of international bankers, 1912: “The few who could understand the system (cheque, money, credits) will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.” The boastful statement by Rothschild Bros. of London.
Quote (t8 @ June 27 2012,17:52) Nice pic Stu. Must of shelled out a bit of cash for a photo shoot.
Well worth it though, I'm sure you'll agree.Stuart
Quote (terraricca @ June 28 2012,05:43) stu “Give me the control of the credit of a nation, and I care not who makes the laws.” The famous boastful statement of Nathaniel Meyer Rothschild, speaking to a group of international bankers, 1912: “The few who could understand the system (cheque, money, credits) will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.” The boastful statement by Rothschild Bros. of London.
And I have no doubt this is the cynical attitude of more than just one Rothschild.Stuart
Quote (Stu @ July 02 2012,04:29) Quote (terraricca @ June 28 2012,05:43) stu “Give me the control of the credit of a nation, and I care not who makes the laws.” The famous boastful statement of Nathaniel Meyer Rothschild, speaking to a group of international bankers, 1912: “The few who could understand the system (cheque, money, credits) will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.” The boastful statement by Rothschild Bros. of London.
And I have no doubt this is the cynical attitude of more than just one Rothschild.Stuart
stuthe fact that the masses still lives is because they are needed for the comfort of the powerfull ,I mean pay for their way of live .
they have a believe be on anyone
Quote (terraricca @ July 02 2012,00:57) Quote (Stu @ July 02 2012,04:29) Quote (terraricca @ June 28 2012,05:43) stu “Give me the control of the credit of a nation, and I care not who makes the laws.” The famous boastful statement of Nathaniel Meyer Rothschild, speaking to a group of international bankers, 1912: “The few who could understand the system (cheque, money, credits) will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.” The boastful statement by Rothschild Bros. of London.
And I have no doubt this is the cynical attitude of more than just one Rothschild.Stuart
stuthe fact that the masses still lives is because they are needed for the comfort of the powerfull ,I mean pay for their way of live .
they have a believe be on anyone
All the best in your push for a socialist revolution.Stuart
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