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Greetings Stu…..God hates war….It is the nature of man which is in enmity to God who chooses war,and God determines the outcome of war…In some cases he allows an enemy to prevail as a form of judgement on a nation,the same applies for natural disasters…This world is replete with evil and what ever good is evident….is under attack….Let us not take freedom for granted….and let us not think it just happens….If you enjoy your freedom,be advised that there forces in this world that hate you for it and are intent on taking it away….This is what neccesitates war…unless you are prepared to succumb to the agenda of those that hate you…
Quote (theodorej @ Jan. 10 2009,01:14) Greetings Stu…..God hates war….It is the nature of man which is in enmity to God who chooses war,and God determines the outcome of war…In some cases he allows an enemy to prevail as a form of judgement on a nation,the same applies for natural disasters…This world is replete with evil and what ever good is evident….is under attack….Let us not take freedom for granted….and let us not think it just happens….If you enjoy your freedom,be advised that there forces in this world that hate you for it and are intent on taking it away….This is what neccesitates war…unless you are prepared to succumb to the agenda of those that hate you…
Hi theodorejExodus 14, Numbers 31, Judges 3, Judges 7, Judges 20, 2 Chronicles 13 and 2 Chronicles 14 all document just how much this god hates war. In fact the bible does not say that god allows certain victories, he is actively involved, for example removing chariot wheels and delivering people into enemy hands. In World War Two he would have been considered a spy and liable to be shot if caught.
You seem to be suggesting that natural disasters are punishment for sin. In my opinion that is one of the nastiest philosophies anyone could have, perhaps along with sin causing infectious disease. To say as much is to wish for a return of the miserable mentality that gripped dark age and medieval Europe. There things are untrue and cause needless unhappiness in the world.
It is said that islam has bloody borders, and indeed one of the biggest threats is from militant islamists. By the rest of your post you would be classified as a fairly fundamentalist christian and it is exactly that attitude that we need less of in the world, for it gives comfort to those who justify their violence on their own fundamentalist religious interpretation. You, like they, are Abrahamic, 'of the book' as they say, and they see a parallel. So will you do your part? If the world turned its back on literalism today the islamic terrorists would be utterly isolated. There is far more you can do about it than I can.
Stuart
t8 I like to add to that, that God also protects His people even though we are surrounded by evil. Do let us stay all under the Blood of Christ. In unity I pray, Peace and Love Irene
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 10 2009,08:38) Quote (theodorej @ Jan. 10 2009,01:14) Greetings Stu…..God hates war….It is the nature of man which is in enmity to God who chooses war,and God determines the outcome of war…In some cases he allows an enemy to prevail as a form of judgement on a nation,the same applies for natural disasters…This world is replete with evil and what ever good is evident….is under attack….Let us not take freedom for granted….and let us not think it just happens….If you enjoy your freedom,be advised that there forces in this world that hate you for it and are intent on taking it away….This is what neccesitates war…unless you are prepared to succumb to the agenda of those that hate you…
Hi theodorejExodus 14, Numbers 31, Judges 3, Judges 7, Judges 20, 2 Chronicles 13 and 2 Chronicles 14 all document just how much this god hates war. In fact the bible does not say that god allows certain victories, he is actively involved, for example removing chariot wheels and delivering people into enemy hands. In World War Two he would have been considered a spy and liable to be shot if caught.
You seem to be suggesting that natural disasters are punishment for sin. In my opinion that is one of the nastiest philosophies anyone could have, perhaps along with sin causing infectious disease. To say as much is to wish for a return of the miserable mentality that gripped dark age and medieval Europe. There things are untrue and cause needless unhappiness in the world.
It is said that islam has bloody borders, and indeed one of the biggest threats is from militant islamists. By the rest of your post you would be classified as a fairly fundamentalist christian and it is exactly that attitude that we need less of in the world, for it gives comfort to those who justify their violence on their own fundamentalist religious interpretation. You, like they, are Abrahamic, 'of the book' as they say, and they see a parallel. So will you do your part? If the world turned its back on literalism today the islamic terrorists would be utterly isolated. There is far more you can do about it than I can.
Stuart
Greetings Stu…..Sometimes truth can be nasty….In my previous post ..I fail to see how you came to the conclusion that I would long for the days of midevil oppression….God is the same today as yesterday and will be the same in the future…The biggest threat to us is our selves…Islam may very well be the means by which God executes judgement on this nation….It will be the result of our rejecting his statutes and the pursuit of wickedness and perverscity….With respect to natural disasters…one only has to know that this world is his creation and the forces of nature are subject to the creator….T8 This is Irene users name Tiffany. I do not know what happed again I lost that users name, for the 4th time. To start we had IM4Truth, then Irene, then Tiffany and now Cindy. I have no idea what happens. Would aprecaite if you would look into this. Thank you Irene
You mean IM4Truth, then Irene, then Tiffany, were all the same person. This is confusing. What is your real name?
Irene,
You seem to be the only one with this problem. Therefore, it would be almost next to impossible for t8 to investigate your issue.
Are you simply forgetting your password and creating a new username when this happens? What browser (Internet Explorer, Firefox, etc) are you using? The problem is very likely on your end, and this will continue to happen until you solve it.
Quote You seem to be the only one with this problem. Therefore, it would be almost next to impossible for t8 to investigate your issue.
I was thinking the same–that it's odd that it's just you that is experiencing a problem like this–well, you, and Irene, and IM4truth.O.K. Guy's My Husband started this site with IM4Truth, for some reason we lost it and even tho we had the password and everything we could not use it again, don't ask me why!!! The same again with Irene, which is my real name, and if you look that is how I sign each post. I am not a computer geek so it just has to stay whatever comes along. We are using Road Runner which is not cheap. I am one person, Irene. Just 70 years old and don't know to much about this computer and no interest in learning this stuff either.
Peace and Love Irene
KJ is right. This is a usability issue,
Try signing in with any of your previous names. If the password is forgotten, then click the link on the sign in page worded as below:
Forgotten your password and/or log in details? Click here!That will take you to this page:
https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….CODE=00From there, enter the member name and a new password will then be emailed to the email address that is associated with the user name.
Once you are logged in, it might be a good idea to change your password to something you are likely to remember, but no one else will guess.
Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 22 2009,11:59) What happens when you try to sign in using one of the other usernames?
Ken I would have to log out first, and then log in under that name. Since I have it set up under Cincy, I do not want to take a chance of loosing it. Let well enough alone, if it happens again I will try.
Thank you for your reply
Peace and Love Irenet8 Thank you for your reply and like I told kejonn will keep this for awhile now. Sorry for all the trouble.
Peace and Love IreneQuote (theodorej @ Jan. 17 2009,01:04) Greetings Stu…..Sometimes truth can be nasty….In my previous post ..I fail to see how you came to the conclusion that I would long for the days of midevil oppression….God is the same today as yesterday and will be the same in the future…The biggest threat to us is our selves…Islam may very well be the means by which God executes judgement on this nation….It will be the result of our rejecting his statutes and the pursuit of wickedness and perverscity….With respect to natural disasters…one only has to know that this world is his creation and the forces of nature are subject to the creator….
Hi theodorejI would certainly agree that my truth that the universe is indifferent to us, and that the processes by which we came to be here have no intent of any kind behind them may seem nasty, however it is not what I would call evil because the universe does not specifically intend us any harm, it is just not able to 'care' for us in any particularly specific way. We are here because we fit it, not the other way round.
Your 'truth' adds intent to my 'truth'. What is that intent? Like a little kid this god of yours throws all the toys it made for itself out of its cot. It pulls the wings off the wasps it supposedly created for its own purposes that are unknowable to us but indistinguishable from the idle, unthinking cruel play of a child.
I like my truth better. Whether it really turns out to be a better model of the universe than yours, I find a pitiless universe that does not intent to judge and punish more palatable than a churlish one that seems to intent to make life miserable for some, not discriminating between believer and heathen except in the special little invented unexplorable fantasy word that keeps the believers psychologically in the right zone for the convenience of other believers.
This god strikes me as more evil than any other mythological being.
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 22 2009,20:29) This god strikes me as more evil than any other mythological being.
Acknowledging evil leads to understanding that good exists also, for one is the lack of the other. This leads onto the question, where does good and evil come from.Everything has an origin Stu.
If you thought through your own thought processes without bias, you might be able to see.
Quote (t8 @ Jan. 22 2009,21:11) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 22 2009,20:29) This god strikes me as more evil than any other mythological being.
Acknowledging evil leads to understanding that good exists also, for one is the lack of the other. This leads onto the question, where does good and evil come from.Everything has an origin Stu.
If you thought through your own thought processes without bias, you might be able to see.
You seem happy that evil has originated with your god, the one that ultimately brought the universe into existence and therefore has the power to overcome what it sees as evil.Perhaps what you see as good and evil are confused because you do not really know exactly what your god wants from you. You certainly don't know why he wants it. How do you know that 'true' evil does not actually lie in the delusion of this god?
Stuart
T8…………A new member named Paladin, Keep getting His posting rights canceled , what wrong here? Can you look into it His posts are very good , appreciate your Help brother.
peace and love to you and yours…………………gene
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