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- March 24, 2008 at 6:36 pm#84694kejonnParticipant
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2008,13:29) Do you really think it is all about man?
Is it all about God? Do you believe that the One who created the Universe really gets any benefit from our servitude? Again, you are reducing God to the level of a selfish dictator who requires obedience so He can bask in worship and praise.March 24, 2008 at 6:36 pm#84695NickHassanParticipantHi KJ,
No not enough sorry.
He also created that bug you just stood on.March 24, 2008 at 6:36 pm#84696StuParticipantQuote (Cato @ Mar. 25 2008,06:26) …we try and climb our way back into grace, facing death and limitations inherent with being in material form. God is patient and wants us to grow and learn so we are born into situations individualized for the growth of our individual souls. We live and hopefully learn, sins are not punished per se, but result in karmic debts that must be payed off. We live many lives in different circumstances until we pay off our debts and learn what our souls need to learn to pass on to the next level of being, hopefully closer to the divine then we are now. Occasionally a superior soul who has already graduated from the school of material life comes back and teaches others what is possible if they would break from sin and look toward God and their fellow man.
Hi CatoAre we all looking to get to the level of Operating Thetan?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology#Beliefs
Stuart
March 24, 2008 at 6:39 pm#84697NickHassanParticipantHi KJ,
You serve Him?
Folk naturally serve themselves.
You will have to believe in Him and obey His teachings.March 24, 2008 at 6:40 pm#84698StuParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2008,06:36) Hi KJ,
No not enough sorry.
He also created that bug you just stood on.
Having shared an ancestor in common many millions of years ago, that bug is a cousin!Stuart
March 24, 2008 at 6:41 pm#84699kejonnParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2008,13:33) The scriptures show us how patheically ignorant and incapable of goodness we are.
Gotta love this view of humanity. Keep people feeling they are worthless and indeed they fell the need for some type of redemption. It is a ploy that continues to work on many who already have a poor opinion of themselves.March 24, 2008 at 6:41 pm#84700NickHassanParticipantHi cato,
Is this the better plan?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma_in_HinduismMarch 24, 2008 at 6:42 pm#84701NickHassanParticipantHi KJ,
The crowing rooster still meets the block.March 24, 2008 at 6:42 pm#84702kejonnParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2008,13:36) Hi KJ,
No not enough sorry.
He also created that bug you just stood on.
Do you think bugs have a “bug Jesus” that will redeem them? Maybe a “bug bible” with bug versions of Abraham, Moses, etc.?March 24, 2008 at 6:42 pm#84703StuParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2008,06:35) Hi Stu,
You just have to become as a child.
They can come to the arms of the loving Master.
Unconfused by philosophy and unsullied by sin it is easy for them.
Hi NickUnconfused by reality I think is the truth.
You may have missed your true calling as a scriptwriter for the Hammer House of Horrors.
Stuart
March 24, 2008 at 6:43 pm#84704NickHassanParticipantHi KJ,
They have equal rights to you.
The rest is vanity.March 24, 2008 at 6:44 pm#84705kejonnParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2008,13:39) Hi KJ,
You serve Him?
Folk naturally serve themselves.
You will have to believe in Him and obey His teachings.
Since you have never told me what worship was in your opinion, tell me how you serve Him, and why. I think if you got to the bottom of it, you serve Him because of the benefit you receive from it, thereby also serving yourself.March 24, 2008 at 6:46 pm#84706kejonnParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2008,13:42) Hi KJ,
The crowing rooster still meets the block.
Yes, and a child will be killed by a drunk driver. An infant will die in her sleep. Another child will fall in a pool and drown. All humans, all who may never hear of or understand Jesus. What of those poor souls? Headed for the lake of fire?March 24, 2008 at 6:48 pm#84707kejonnParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2008,13:43) Hi KJ,
They have equal rights to you.
The rest is vanity.
So we need to preach to bugs too? Rabbits? Squirrels? Sharks?March 24, 2008 at 6:48 pm#84708StuParticipantQuote (kejonn @ Mar. 25 2008,06:46) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2008,13:42) Hi KJ,
The crowing rooster still meets the block.
Yes, and a child will be killed by a drunk driver. An infant will die in her sleep. Another child will fall in a pool and drown. All humans, all who may never hear of or understand Jesus. What of those poor souls? Headed for the lake of fire?
And of course all the humans who lived in the 180,000 years before christianity was invented and all those who will live after it dies out completely.Stuart
March 24, 2008 at 6:51 pm#84709StuParticipantHi kejonn
White Eagle flys at dawn. Red squirrel is envy. Beware.
Am I making more sense than the fundies?
Stuart
March 24, 2008 at 6:59 pm#84710NickHassanParticipantHi KJ,
Do not take your contempt for God to also impugn His mercy.
You may need it some day.March 24, 2008 at 7:00 pm#84711NickHassanParticipantHi KJ,
Stuff happens.
But eternal life gives it all another perspective.March 24, 2008 at 7:09 pm#84713kejonnParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2008,13:59) Hi KJ,
Do not take your contempt for God to also impugn His mercy.
You may need it some day.
You still have a disconnect going on somewhere. You still think that a book written by primitive humans is directly the words of God. Thus, if anyone brings out the many fallacies of such a book, you automatically believe they have contempt for God.Wrong.
I merely do not believe that God can accurately be described in human terms, certainly not by men who lived in tents thousands of years ago.
March 24, 2008 at 7:10 pm#84714kejonnParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2008,14:00) Hi KJ,
Stuff happens.
But eternal life gives it all another perspective.
Stuff happens and we can experience that stuff. Know anyone who has come back from the other side to verify this eternal life? - AuthorPosts
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