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I suppose to you, all but the four gospels are all that is really needed in your bible, if, as you say, “the same gospel for all”, is the only one needed, then why bother with the rest of scripture?Hi brother Jerry,
Jesus was commissioned for (The lost tribes of Israel)the nation of Israel but St Paul was commissioned for the Gentiles like us.
Am I correct ?Hi GM,
Same mission.
Same Spirit empowering.
The Body of Jesus continuing to function.
Same work-to preach the one gospel of the one kingdom of God.Quote (gollamudi @ Nov. 16 2008,20:57) Hi brother Jerry,
Jesus was commissioned for (The lost tribes of Israel)the nation of Israel but St Paul was commissioned for the Gentiles like us.
Am I correct ?
Hi Adam:Would you rather listen to Jerry or to Jesus?
Quote Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen.
Quote (gollamudi @ Nov. 16 2008,20:57) Hi brother Jerry,
Jesus was commissioned for (The lost tribes of Israel)the nation of Israel but St Paul was commissioned for the Gentiles like us.
Am I correct ?
Hi Adam.
In my opinion, you are correct. The following scriptures are:Matt.15:24 …Now He (Jesus), answering, said, “I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
Ro.15:8 … For I am saying that Christ has become the Servant of the Circumcision, for the sake of the truth of God, to confirm the patriarchal promises.
Ro.15:15-16 …15 Yet more daringly do I write to you, in part, as prompting you, because of the grace being given to me from God,
16 for me to be the minister of Christ Jesus for the nations,But may I add, that now that we (gentiles) are (and never were) under the law, we are now under grace, both Jew and gentile. God has justified all through Jesus' sacrifice, and sees our sin no more. See the following scripture:
Ro.10:11-13 … 11 For the scripture is saying: Everyone who is believing on Him shall not be disgraced.
12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same One is Lord of all, being rich for all who are invoking Him.
13 For everyone, whoever should be invoking the name of the Lord, shall be saved.At the consummation, God will bw “ALL IN ALL”.
1Cor.15:25-28 …25 For He (Jesus) must be reigning until He should be placing all His enemies under His feet.
26 The last enemy is being abolished: death.
27 For He subjects all under His feet. Now whenever He may be saying that all is subject, it is evident that it is outside of Him Who subjects all to Him.
28 Now, whenever all may be subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also shall be subjected to Him Who subjects all to Him, that God may be All in all.)God Bless.
CO.
Grace came through Jesus Christ.
It is accessible to all men through him.
Of course we must repent and go through that door.Wow CO,
Back to the basics for you it seems so perhaps some private study may help you.
Jesus is the only foundation stone that can be laid.Quote (chosenone @ Nov. 17 2008,08:11) Quote (gollamudi @ Nov. 16 2008,20:57) Hi brother Jerry,
Jesus was commissioned for (The lost tribes of Israel)the nation of Israel but St Paul was commissioned for the Gentiles like us.
Am I correct ?
Hi Adam.
In my opinion, you are correct. The following scriptures are:Matt.15:24 …Now He (Jesus), answering, said, “I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
Ro.15:8 … For I am saying that Christ has become the Servant of the Circumcision, for the sake of the truth of God, to confirm the patriarchal promises.
Ro.15:15-16 …15 Yet more daringly do I write to you, in part, as prompting you, because of the grace being given to me from God,
16 for me to be the minister of Christ Jesus for the nations,But may I add, that now that we (gentiles) are (and never were) under the law, we are now under grace, both Jew and gentile. God has justified all through Jesus' sacrifice, and sees our sin no more. See the following scripture:
Ro.10:11-13 … 11 For the scripture is saying: Everyone who is believing on Him shall not be disgraced.
12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same One is Lord of all, being rich for all who are invoking Him.
13 For everyone, whoever should be invoking the name of the Lord, shall be saved.At the consummation, God will bw “ALL IN ALL”.
1Cor.15:25-28 …25 For He (Jesus) must be reigning until He should be placing all His enemies under His feet.
26 The last enemy is being abolished: death.
27 For He subjects all under His feet. Now whenever He may be saying that all is subject, it is evident that it is outside of Him Who subjects all to Him.
28 Now, whenever all may be subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also shall be subjected to Him Who subjects all to Him, that God may be All in all.)God Bless.
Hi brother Jerry,
Thanks for such clarification. Paul says in Eph 3:3 (namely, that) the mystery was made known to me by revelation, as I have written briefly earlier.
4 When you read this you can understand my insight into the mystery of Christ,
5 which was not made known to human beings in other generations as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit,
6 that the Gentiles are coheirs, members of the same body, and copartners in the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel.
7 Of this I became a minister by the gift of God's grace that was granted me in accord with the exercise of his power.
8 To me, the very least of all the holy ones, this grace was given, to preach to the Gentiles the inscrutable riches of Christ,
9 and to bring to light [for all] what is the plan of the mystery hidden from ages past in God who created all things,
10 so that the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known through the church to the principalities and authorities in the heavens.
11 This was according to the eternal purpose that he accomplished in Christ Jesus our Lord,The above verses clarifiy that this mystery was not revealed through anybody else prior to Paul. Therefore you are right in saying Jesus was commissioned only for the lost tribes of Israel.
Thanks and love to you
AdamHI GM,
Yes.
So if the same gospel of the kingdom was taken to the gentiles by those in the body of Christ why is this detail so important?Mi Adam.
Thanks for your reply, the truth is in you. You understand more than many who claim to be scholars of scripture, but understand little, God bless.Your brother in Christ, Jerry.
Quote (gollamudi @ Nov. 17 2008,16:48) Quote (chosenone @ Nov. 17 2008,08:11) Quote (gollamudi @ Nov. 16 2008,20:57) Hi brother Jerry,
Jesus was commissioned for (The lost tribes of Israel)the nation of Israel but St Paul was commissioned for the Gentiles like us.
Am I correct ?
Hi Adam.
In my opinion, you are correct. The following scriptures are:Matt.15:24 …Now He (Jesus), answering, said, “I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
Ro.15:8 … For I am saying that Christ has become the Servant of the Circumcision, for the sake of the truth of God, to confirm the patriarchal promises.
Ro.15:15-16 …15 Yet more daringly do I write to you, in part, as prompting you, because of the grace being given to me from God,
16 for me to be the minister of Christ Jesus for the nations,But may I add, that now that we (gentiles) are (and never were) under the law, we are now under grace, both Jew and gentile. God has justified all through Jesus' sacrifice, and sees our sin no more. See the following scripture:
Ro.10:11-13 … 11 For the scripture is saying: Everyone who is believing on Him shall not be disgraced.
12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same One is Lord of all, being rich for all who are invoking Him.
13 For everyone, whoever should be invoking the name of the Lord, shall be saved.At the consummation, God will bw “ALL IN ALL”.
1Cor.15:25-28 …25 For He (Jesus) must be reigning until He should be placing all His enemies under His feet.
26 The last enemy is being abolished: death.
27 For He subjects all under His feet. Now whenever He may be saying that all is subject, it is evident that it is outside of Him Who subjects all to Him.
28 Now, whenever all may be subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also shall be subjected to Him Who subjects all to Him, that God may be All in all.)God Bless.
Hi brother Jerry,
Thanks for such clarification. Paul says in Eph 3:3 (namely, that) the mystery was made known to me by revelation, as I have written briefly earlier.
4 When you read this you can understand my insight into the mystery of Christ,
5 which was not made known to human beings in other generations as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit,
6 that the Gentiles are coheirs, members of the same body, and copartners in the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel.
7 Of this I became a minister by the gift of God's grace that was granted me in accord with the exercise of his power.
8 To me, the very least of all the holy ones, this grace was given, to preach to the Gentiles the inscrutable riches of Christ,
9 and to bring to light [for all] what is the plan of the mystery hidden from ages past in God who created all things,
10 so that the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known through the church to the principalities and authorities in the heavens.
11 This was according to the eternal purpose that he accomplished in Christ Jesus our Lord,The above verses clarifiy that this mystery was not revealed through anybody else prior to Paul. Therefore you are right in saying Jesus was commissioned only for the lost tribes of Israel.
Thanks and love to you
Adam
Hi Adam:The Lord saved Cornelius through the Apostle Peter.
Quote (gollamudi @ Nov. 18 2008,20:07) Hi brother 942767,
What do you mean by that with respect to my post ?
Hi Adam:You say:
Quote The above verses clarifiy that this mystery was not revealed through anybody else prior to Paul. Therefore you are right in saying Jesus was commissioned only for the lost tribes of Israel. The above is not a true statement:
Cornelius was a gentile who was saved through the Apostle Peter, and if you read carefully what the Apostle Paul stated in the scriptures that brother Jerry quoted you will see that the Apostle Paul did not say that he was not the first to whom the mystery was first made. The scriptures that have been quoted say:
Quote 5 which(referring to the mystery) was not made known to human beings in other generations as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit, God Bless
Col.1:25 …of which I became a dispenser, in accord with the administration of God, which is granted to me for you, to complete the word of God —
26 the secret which has been concealed from the eons and from the generations, yet now was made manifest to His saints,CO,
Col1
25Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;26Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
27To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
28Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
The secret is Christ in us as Spirit, our hope of glory.
That Spirit was only given when Christ returned to heaven.[jn7]
Paul is privileged to dispense this long hidden mystery to the gentiles.
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