For us but not about us?

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  • #111630
    NickHassan
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    Hi CO,
    Writing to the saved the Spirit of Christ in Paul opens up to them the wondrous secret that all blessings are found in and through Jesus in whom they are now found. The Spirit of Christ is the key that unlocks all these mysteries and they are urged to seek the graces offered now they have obeyed the simple demands of the gospel of God. Now they are one in Christ they are on a faith journey of blessing upon blessing according to the receiving of the rain that falls from heaven.

    Eph 3
    1For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,

    2If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:

    3How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,

    4Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

    5Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

    6That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

    7Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.

    8Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;

    9And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

    10To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

    11According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:

    12In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.

    13Wherefore I desire that ye faint not at my tribulations for you, which is your glory.

    14For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,

    15Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,

    16That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;

    17That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,

    18May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;

    19And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

    20Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,

    21Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.

    #111632
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    We must first of all hear and receive in faith the message of the gospel of the kingdom.
    We must obey the message and enter the door of Christ by repentance and rebirth from above.
    We do these things by faith and not by sight but unless we obey we remain outside it and also ignorant.
    Outside of the kingdom gate we are reliant only on hope in the mercy of God and this is limited in the Word.
    Seeking just understanding from the teachings of Paul without salvation is frustrated by lack of God's Spiritual help.

    It is just another vanity alike to the vanity of salvation for all.

    #111650
    chosenone
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 11 2008,06:57)
    Hi CO,
    We must first of all hear and receive in faith the message of the gospel of the kingdom.
    We must obey the message and enter the door of Christ by repentance and rebirth from above.
    We do these things by faith and not by sight but unless we obey we remain outside it and also ignorant.
    Outside of the kingdom gate we are reliant only on hope in the mercy of God and this is limited in the Word.
    Seeking just understanding from the teachings of Paul without salvation is frustrated by lack of God's Spiritual help.

    It is just another vanity alike to the vanity of salvation for all.


    Nick.
    The “Gospel of the kingdom” was for the Jews, by Jesus. It was never reached.
    The “Gospel of the Grace of God” is present now. “There is therefore now no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus.”
    One must “correctly cut the word of truth”.

    Blessings.

    PS. Repent? Was Christs' sacrifice not good enough for you? It was for me!

    #111653
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    There is only one gospel.
    That is basic to faith in Jesus Christ.

    All are not and all have never been in Christ.
    You must be reborn from above to eneter the kingdom of God.
    The door has yet to close but the kingdom is entered through that precious door.

    #111655
    chosenone
    Participant

    Nick.
    One gospel for you? Thats ok with me. For me, The gospel of “the grace of God”, follows the “gospel of the kingdom”, which was for the Jews.

    #111658
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    You should keep additional gospels to yourself lest you risk causing offense to the little ones.

    #111660
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    Which of your gospels are alluded to in these verses?
    They speak only of THE gospel

    Acts 8:25
    And they, when they had testified and preached the word of the Lord, returned to Jerusalem, and preached the gospel in many villages of the Samaritans.

    Acts 14:7
    And there they preached the gospel.

    Acts 14:21
    And when they had preached the gospel to that city, and had taught many, they returned again to Lystra, and to Iconium, and Antioch,

    Acts 15:7
    And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

    Acts 16:10
    And after he had seen the vision, immediately we endeavoured to go into Macedonia, assuredly gathering that the Lord had called us for to preach the gospel unto them.

    Acts 20:24
    But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.

    Romans 1:1
    Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

    Romans 1:9
    For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers;

    Romans 1:15
    So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also.

    #111673
    chosenone
    Participant

    Nick.
    Jesus taught “the gospel of the kingdom of God”, Paul taught “the gospel of the Grace of God”. You must “correctly cut the word of truth”. I'll give you some examples:

    Matt.15:24 …Now He, answering, said, “I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

    Ro.15:8 …For I am saying that Christ has become the Servant of the Circumcision, for the sake of the truth of God, to confirm the patriarchal promises.

    Ro.15: …for me (Paul) to be the minister of Christ Jesus for the nations, acting as a priest of the evangel of God, that the approach present of the nations may be becoming well received, having been hallowed by holy spirit.

    If you have trouble understanding Gods word, then how can one know truth?

    #111674
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Co,
    Same message.
    Same Spirit uniting all in Christ.
    Different vessels and different target groups.

    One kingdom of God.
    One people made of many.

    Why would you imagine God wants a divided kingdom?

    #111676
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    Any kingdom divided against itself will fail.
    Did you not think God was just in offering the gospel of the kingdom first to the chosen people?

    #111677
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (chosenone @ Nov. 11 2008,13:23)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 11 2008,06:57)
    Hi CO,
    We must first of all hear and receive in faith the message of the gospel of the kingdom.
    We must obey the message and enter the door of Christ by repentance and rebirth from above.
    We do these things by faith and not by sight but unless we obey we remain outside it and also ignorant.
    Outside of the kingdom gate we are reliant only on hope in the mercy of God and this is limited in the Word.
    Seeking just understanding from the teachings of Paul without salvation is frustrated by lack of God's Spiritual help.

    It is just another vanity alike to the vanity of salvation for all.


    Nick.
        The “Gospel of the kingdom” was for the Jews, by Jesus.  It was never reached.
        The “Gospel of the Grace of God” is present now.  “There is therefore now no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus.”
        One must “correctly cut the word of truth”.

    Blessings.

    PS.  Repent?  Was Christs' sacrifice not good enough for you?  It was for me!


    Hi CO,
    THIS GOSPEL, Jesus's gospel of the kingdom is to be preached all over the world as a witness unto ALL NATIONS and not just to the Jews. It was not a separate and failed one just for Jews. God does not fail.

    Matthew 24:14
    And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

    Grace and peace came through Jesus Christ unto all who receive him.

    1 Timothy 1:2
    Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.

    Revelation 1:4
    John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

    #111678
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    Repent?
    Yep ALL MEN EVERYWHERE [acts 17]

    But you may prefer other gospels.

    #111679
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    Yes the sacrifice of the Saviour is enough for all men.
    God wants all to be saved.

    John 1:12
    But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

    #111705
    chosenone
    Participant

    Nick.
    Acts11:18 …Now, on hearing these things, they are quiet, and glorify God, saying, “Consequently, to the nations also God gives repentance unto life!”

    Why ask for something (repentance), when God has already granted it to us? Did Jesus die for nothing? What an insult to God, still asking for something Jesus accomplished at such a great cost. Very ungratefull of you, shame.

    #111709
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    When did every man receive repentance?

    The group being blessed with the words of God who responded did show that evidence.

    #111712
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    The message of Pentecost has not changed. All must repent.
    God has granted the grace to do so in response to the word of God.

    #111742
    chosenone
    Participant

    1Cor.15:22 …For even as, in Adam, all are dying, thus also, in Christ, shall all be vivified.

    1Tim.4:9-11 … Faithful is the saying and worthy of all welcome
    10 (for for this are we toiling and being reproached), that we rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind,
    11 especially of believers. These things be charging and teaching.

    Nick, notice “These things be charging and teaching”. Why resist scripture meant for you?

    1Tim.2:3-4 … for this is ideal and welcome in the sight of our Saviour, God,
    4 Who wills that all mankind be saved and come into a realization of the truth. Gods will just a “wish”? I'm sure YOU think so!

    AND FINALLY!
    2Cor.5:18-19 …18 Yet all is of God, Who conciliates us to Himself through Christ, and is giving us the dispensation of the conciliation,
    19 how that God was in Christ, conciliating the world to Himself, not reckoning their offenses to them, and placing in us the word of the conciliation.
    Of course YOU do not believe this scripture that God says, “…not reckoning their offences (sins) to them,
    Again, (YOU) will still be repenting, ignoring Jesus' sacifice as a non-event. Shame on you.

    #111751
    NickHassan
    Participant

    CO,
    I prefer the teachings of Jesus.
    Thanks

    #111780
    chosenone
    Participant

    Nick.
    How about the teaching of His Father, God? Looks like you don't accept His!

    #111781
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Co,
    It is the will of the Father that you listen to the Son.
    You should not rather concoct a new gospel from the misconstrued teachings of the apostles.

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