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[jammin]

Quote (terraricca @ June 20 2012,16:37)

Quote (jammin @ June 20 2012,23:26) Quote (Ed J @ June 20 2012,04:29) Quote (jammin @ June 19 2012,12:14) Quote (Ed J @ June 19 2012,11:36) Hi Mike, It is very clear from the context that Manoah literally thought he saw “GOD”, rather than merely calling an Angel 'a god' as you seem to be suggesting. God bless Ed J you said: thought he saw “GOD”, give me translation that says that HE THOUGHT  HE SAW GOD ill wait boy. Hi Jammin, Judges 13:22 And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org yes, he saw GOD good boy nick, it was you J This is ridicule,no one can say he saw God, no one ever saw God so how could he know that it was God??? Assuming is not a true statement ,you have no argument to prove what you say ,scriptures does support your view, You just LIKE to believe it ,so do it ,but don,t think that others are as blind as you are on this.

Judges 13:22 And Manoah said unto his wife,
We shall surely die, because we have seen God.

believe it or not T

the bible says that they saw GOD

now, your problem is who is that GOD

that is the son
and not the father boy

bec Christ said in john that no one has ever seen GOD!

jos 5.14
Geneva Study Bible

And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and {g} did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant?

(g) In that Joshua worships him, he acknowledges him to be God: and in that he calls himself the Lord's captain he declares himself to be Christ.

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ June 20 2012,18:17)

edj, LOL did the verse say HE THOUGHT HE SAW GOD?? or HE SAW GOD??? ill wait for your answer boy

Jammin, you obviously
need a lesson in English:

Stan says: 'I saw a ghost'

Ed J says: “Stan thought he saw a ghost”

Ed J's English is correct.

[Ed J]

Hi Jammin, here are some additional facts you may be overlooking or are discounting!

God said: “There shall no man see me, and live.” (Ex0dus 33:20-21)

Manoah said: “We shall surely die, because we have seen God.” (Judges 13:22)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[jammin]

that is true ed boy

but read the whole verse boy LOL

do not just cut and paste!
read it boy!

let me post the verse
Judges 13:22-25

New International Reader's Version (NIRV)

22 “We're going to die!” he said to his wife. “We've seen God!”

23 But his wife answered, “The Lord doesn't want to kill us. If he did, he wouldn't have accepted a burnt offering and a grain offering from us. He wouldn't have shown us all of those things. He wouldn't have told us we're going to have a son.”

GOD did not kill them bec he wants them to live!
it depends on the will of GOD boy!

[Ed J]

Hi Jammin, the answer to your dilemma is found within the context:

“Then Manoah knew that  he was  an angel  of the LORD.” (Judges 13:21)

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Here are additional facts:
you at best may be overlooking
or at worse are certainly discounting!

“That by two immutable things, in which
it was impossible for God to lie,
we might have a strong consolation” (Heb 6:18)         …he was  an angel

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Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

God said: “There shall no man see me, and live.” (Ex-0-dus 33:20-21)

[Ed J]

Hi Jammin,

God is not a liar, certainly you are not suggesting he is?  

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[jammin]

God is not a liar
truly. but if GOD wants you to live, you will live.
are you smarter than GOD? why are you insisting your useless argument.

let the bible speak

Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

And Manoah said unto his wife,…. Being risen from the ground, where they fell on their faces:

we shall surely die, because we have seen God; by which it appears that he not only believed him to be an angel, and not a man, but a divine Person;

Judges 13:18-28

Common English Bible (CEB)

18 The Lord’s messenger responded to him, “Why do you ask my name? You couldn’t understand it.”

19 So Manoah took a young goat and a grain offering and offered them on a rock to the Lord. While Manoah and his wife were looking, an amazing thing happened: 20 as the flame from the altar went up toward the sky, the Lord’s messenger went up in the altar’s flame. When Manoah and his wife saw this, they fell facedown on the ground. 21 The Lord’s messenger didn’t reappear to Manoah or his wife, and Manoah then realized that it had been the Lord’s messenger. 22 Manoah said to his wife, “We are certainly going to die, because we’ve seen God!”

23 But his wife replied to him, “If the Lord wanted to kill us, he wouldn’t have accepted the entirely burned offering and grain offering from our hands. He wouldn’t have shown us all these things or told us all of this now.”

24 The woman gave birth to a son and named him Samson. The boy grew up, and the Lord blessed him. 25 The Lord’s spirit began to move him when he was in Mahaneh-dan, between Zorah and Eshtaol.

now,
if you know how to read then you will understand the whole context.
manoah saw the angel (messenger) of the LORD. manoah knows that this ANGEL OF THE LORD IS GOD HIMSELF!

that is why manoah said in verse 22

22 Manoah said to his wife, “We are certainly going to die, because we’ve seen God!”

do not put your own opinion in the bible. let the bible speak boy

wear eyeglasses LOL

[Ed J]

Jammin, YOU most certainly are changing this verse to mean the opposite.

I YHVH, I change not, therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Can you not see that?

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ June 20 2012,21:04)

Jammin, YOU most certainly are changing this verse to mean the opposite. I YHVH, I change not, therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.       God bless Ed J

People speak in opposites.

I'm not a girl.
I'm not black.
I'm not young.
And I ain't rich.

Jammin says (in essence): 'I change, therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed?    …this is the opposite of what the bible says?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Can you not see that?

[jammin]

ill repeat
if you know how to read then you will understand the whole context.
manoah saw the angel (messenger) of the LORD. manoah knows that this ANGEL OF THE LORD IS GOD HIMSELF!

that is why manoah said in verse 22

22 Manoah said to his wife, “We are certainly going to die, because we’ve seen God!”

do not put your own opinion in the bible. let the bible speak boy

wear eyeglasses LOL

that is the will of GOD. do not put your own opinion in the bible.
the wife of manoah said that.

she said
23But his wife replied to him, “If the Lord wanted to kill us, he wouldn’t have accepted the entirely burned offering and grain offering from our hands. He wouldn’t have shown us all these things or told us all of this now.”

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ June 20 2012,22:06)

manoah knows that this ANGEL OF THE LORD IS GOD HIMSELF!

Hi Jamminm, these “3” VERSES taken together suggest my interpretation is correct. (Rev.3:18)

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1. God said: “There shall no man see me, and live.” (Exodus 33:20-21)

2. “I YHVH, I change not, therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.” (Mal.3:6)

3. “That by two immutable things, in which
        it was impossible for God to lie,
        we might have a strong consolation” (Heb 6:18)          …Manoah saw  an angel, Jammin !

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“At the mouth of three witnesses,
  shall the matter be established.” (Deut 19:15)

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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

The defense rests

[Ed J]

Hi Jammin, is what I see you suggesting…

1. (Jammin suggests) He does change.
2. (Jammin suggests) He doesn't mean what he says.
3. “There shall no man see me, and live.” (Jammin suggests is false)

The prosecution also rests.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[jammin]

edj,

i have questions for you

1. what did verse 22 says? 22 Manoah said to his wife, “We are certainly going to die, because we’ve seen God!”
manoah saw GOD, yes or no?

next question will be given after you answer my first question

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ June 20 2012,23:49)

edj, manoah saw GOD, yes or no? next question will be given after you answer my first question

No

[jammin]

Quote (Ed J @ June 20 2012,23:55)

Quote (jammin @ June 20 2012,23:49) edj, manoah saw GOD, yes or no? next question will be given after you answer my first question No

let the bible answer you

jud 3.22

22 Manoah said to his wife, “We are certainly going to die, because we’ve seen God!”

i believe what the bible says boy LOL
study hard

[Ed J]

The bible does not teach these…

1. (Jammin suggests) He does change.
2. (Jammin suggests) He doesn't mean what he says.
3. “There shall no man see me, and live.” (Jammin suggests is false)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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