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Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 15 2012,12:25) Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,19:17) 18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and[a] is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known. The Greek says “only begotten god”.
Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,19:17) now, do you believe that the God of the OT has seen by men? yes or no?
Moses was allowed to see His back as His glory passed by. But God told Moses that no man could see His face and live.
you do not know greek mike. i think you should study greek first.the greek word monogenes means begotten or only son!
monogenes theos means begotten God or God the only son!
do not explain mike .i just want you to answer my question
now, do you believe that the God of the OT has seen by men? yes or no?HiMB, Do you think the invisible God is small enough to be seen walking on earth? Perhaps He was in heaven and one of his angelic vessels was seen?
Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,20:11) Quote (Ed J @ May 14 2012,14:48) Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,14:09) Quote (942767 @ May 14 2012,13:51)
Hi Jammin:Is Mary the mother of “God the Son”?
the son is GOD.. yes! mary is the mother of the LORD> Christ is Lord and God!thomas said that in john 20.28
my Lord and my God
Hi Jammin,Remember at the mount of transfiguration Jesus
was assured of his resurrection by Moses and Elijah.
Thomas said: unless I see and touch I will not believe.Afterward Thomas believed: and said
unto him, My Lord and my God. (John 20:28)
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself” (2 Cor 5:19)
2 Cor 5:19 spells out clearly why Thomas said what he said; there is no hidden messages in his words, Jammin.Jesus said to Philip: (John 14:11) Believe me that I in the Father,
and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works sake.
Thomas believed for the very works sake!God bless
Ed J
what did thomas say to jesus?is Jesus God and Lord or not?
yes or no
the question is categorical
Hi Jammin, yes and my post explains exactly why Thomas said that:
he finally believed the works of God!“The Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.” (John 14:10)
Jesus said to Philip: (John 14:11) Believe me that I in the Father,
and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works sake.
Thomas believed for the very works sake!“If the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ
from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. (Rom.8:11)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (jammin @ May 14 2012,20:44) Quote (Ed J @ May 14 2012,14:31) Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,13:32) Quote (Ed J @ May 14 2012,10:14) Quote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,19:07) Hi Jammin, Question #2: First you claim my question is not specific enough, (First post on page)
and now you're claiming you answered; (last post you made)
but NEITHER are really true!(Jammin) GOD: means supreme being
(Ed J,) GOD: the creator of the universe.
For reference, Here is the definitions of “GOD”.You answered a different question, one that I didn't ask?
I didn't ask… 'do you believed the son is GOD by nature.'What I instead asked is:
are you suggesting that Mary is(?) the mother of God?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Jammin?
the father is God
the son is Godjohn 20.28 – thomas said to jesus , my Lord and my God!
are you referring to the father or son?
Hi Jammin,By your response, your answer is both yes and no;
why will you not accept the reality of what you believe?
Is it because the sound of truth troubles you; Yes? Jammin?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
that is just your opinion boy LOLi said are you referring to the father or son?
the father is God
the son is God
Hi Jammin,It is clear to all form your response that your answer is both yea and no; do you deny this fact?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ May 14 2012,05:10) Hi Jammin, Rev 4:2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold,
a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.Who does John see sitting on the throne?
1. GOD
2. JesusPlease answer 1 or 2
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Jammin?Quote (Ed J @ May 16 2012,02:00)
what did thomas say to jesus?is Jesus God and Lord or not?
yes or no
the question is categorical
Quote
edj:
Hi Jammin, yesthnks for your answer. i thought u do not believe that Christ is God but now you are changing your prev answer. you do believe that he is God.
thnks LOL
Quote (Ed J @ May 16 2012,02:03) Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,20:44) Quote (Ed J @ May 14 2012,14:31) Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,13:32) Quote (Ed J @ May 14 2012,10:14) Quote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,19:07) Hi Jammin, Question #2: First you claim my question is not specific enough, (First post on page)
and now you're claiming you answered; (last post you made)
but NEITHER are really true!(Jammin) GOD: means supreme being
(Ed J,) GOD: the creator of the universe.
For reference, Here is the definitions of “GOD”.You answered a different question, one that I didn't ask?
I didn't ask… 'do you believed the son is GOD by nature.'What I instead asked is:
are you suggesting that Mary is(?) the mother of God?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Jammin?
the father is God
the son is Godjohn 20.28 – thomas said to jesus , my Lord and my God!
are you referring to the father or son?
Hi Jammin,By your response, your answer is both yes and no;
why will you not accept the reality of what you believe?
Is it because the sound of truth troubles you; Yes? Jammin?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
that is just your opinion boy LOLi said are you referring to the father or son?
the father is God
the son is God
Hi Jammin,It is clear to all form your response that your answer is both yea and no; do you deny this fact?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
i said the father is GOD
the son is GOD
are you referrng to the father or son?Quote (Ed J @ May 16 2012,02:00) Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,20:11) Quote (Ed J @ May 14 2012,14:48) Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,14:09) Quote (942767 @ May 14 2012,13:51)
Hi Jammin:Is Mary the mother of “God the Son”?
the son is GOD.. yes! mary is the mother of the LORD> Christ is Lord and God!thomas said that in john 20.28
my Lord and my God
Hi Jammin,Remember at the mount of transfiguration Jesus
was assured of his resurrection by Moses and Elijah.
Thomas said: unless I see and touch I will not believe.Afterward Thomas believed: and said
unto him, My Lord and my God. (John 20:28)
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself” (2 Cor 5:19)
2 Cor 5:19 spells out clearly why Thomas said what he said; there is no hidden messages in his words, Jammin.Jesus said to Philip: (John 14:11) Believe me that I in the Father,
and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works sake.
Thomas believed for the very works sake!God bless
Ed J
what did thomas say to jesus?is Jesus God and Lord or not?
yes or no
the question is categorical
Hi Jammin, yes and my post explains exactly why Thomas said that:
he finally believed the works of God!“The Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.” (John 14:10)
Jesus said to Philip: (John 14:11) Believe me that I in the Father,
and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works sake.
Thomas believed for the very works sake!“If the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ
from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. (Rom.8:11)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Did you somehow miss this post?Hi Jammin,
Christ is the son of God (John 11:27), meaning “GOD” is his father.
Christ is not his own father? – I have not agreed to this fallacy?Here is what Thomas came to understand that you still have not…
“God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself,” (2 Cor 5:19)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (jammin @ May 14 2012,20:27) you do not know greek mike. i think you should study greek first. the greek word monogenes means begotten or only son!
jammin, the Greek word “monogenes” comes from the Greek word “mono”, meaning “only”, and the Greek word “ginomai”, meaning “generated”.The word literally means “only generated”.
Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,20:27) do not explain mike .i just want you to answer my question
now, do you believe that the God of the OT has seen by men? yes or no?
No.Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2012,20:30) HiMB, Do you think the invisible God is small enough to be seen walking on earth? Perhaps He was in heaven and one of his angelic vessels was seen?
Hi Nick,Some commentators believe that Moses seeing God's “back” means that Moses was allowed to see His “afterglow”.
This is what God told Moses:
Exodus 33
18 Then Moses said, “Now show me your glory.”19 And the LORD said, “I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you…………….
20 But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.”
21 Then the LORD said, “There is a place near me where you may stand on a rock. 22 When my glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft in the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by. 23 Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen.”
I don't have a SOLID understanding of what Moses actually was allowed to see, and so won't argue against your opinion.
Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,20:26) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 15 2012,12:27)
You have inadvertently admitted that “GOD” is one, and “JESUS” is another.
so what's wrong?
jammin, if “GOD” is one, and “JESUS” is another, then you are saying that Jesus is someone OTHER THAN “GOD”. That's why I told you, “Good job!”.
Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,20:26) he saiD I WILL COME AGAIN HE IS ALMIGHTY! HE IS GOD!
The Greek doesn't say “COME AGAIN”, jammin. It says, “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.Take note of the title “Lord God” that John gives this One he is speaking about. Can you find the title “Lord God” anywhere in Revelation that refers to Jesus?
Also, take note of the title “Almighty”. Do you know what that word means? It means the MIGHTIEST OF ALL – as in, NONE MIGHTIER.
But Jesus has one who IS mightier than he is. He calls that one “my God”. Does the ALMIGHTY have a God of His own, jammin?
Man, you just need to think some of these things out, dude. You have been told lies and have believed them to the core of your very heart and soul, brother. But it's not too late to open your eyes, recognize you've been mislead, and get back on the right path.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 16 2012,11:58) Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,20:27) you do not know greek mike. i think you should study greek first. the greek word monogenes means begotten or only son!
jammin, the Greek word “monogenes” comes from the Greek word “mono”, meaning “only”, and the Greek word “ginomai”, meaning “generated”.The word literally means “only generated”.
Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,20:27) do not explain mike .i just want you to answer my question
now, do you believe that the God of the OT has seen by men? yes or no?
No.
monogenes also means only son..study greek mike. you cant understand me bec you do not have any formal studies in greeki suggest you study greek
Quote (Ed J @ May 16 2012,03:12) Hi Jammin, Christ is the son of God (John 11:27), meaning “GOD” is his father.
Christ is not his own father? – I have not agreed to this fallacy?Here is what Thomas came to understand that you still have not…
“God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself,” (2 Cor 5:19)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
the son of is God is also GOD by nature.you are a son of your father. your father is MAN by nature. you are MAN by nature unless you do not accept your human nature a. are you an animal ?
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 16 2012,11:58) Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,20:27) you do not know greek mike. i think you should study greek first. the greek word monogenes means begotten or only son!
jammin, the Greek word “monogenes” comes from the Greek word “mono”, meaning “only”, and the Greek word “ginomai”, meaning “generated”.The word literally means “only generated”.
Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,20:27) do not explain mike .i just want you to answer my question
now, do you believe that the God of the OT has seen by men? yes or no?
No.
you dont believe that the GOD of the OT has seen by men.
if i showed you a verse that the GOD of OT has seen by men, will you accept that you do not know the true GOD?Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 16 2012,12:22) Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,20:26) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 15 2012,12:27)
You have inadvertently admitted that “GOD” is one, and “JESUS” is another.
so what's wrong?
jammin, if “GOD” is one, and “JESUS” is another, then you are saying that Jesus is someone OTHER THAN “GOD”. That's why I told you, “Good job!”.Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,20:26) he saiD I WILL COME AGAIN HE IS ALMIGHTY! HE IS GOD!
The Greek doesn't say “COME AGAIN”, jammin. It says, “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.Take note of the title “Lord God” that John gives this One he is speaking about. Can you find the title “Lord God” anywhere in Revelation that refers to Jesus?
Also, take note of the title “Almighty”. Do you know what that word means? It means the MIGHTIEST OF ALL – as in, NONE MIGHTIER.
But Jesus has one who IS mightier than he is. He calls that one “my God”. Does the ALMIGHTY have a God of His own, jammin?
Man, you just need to think some of these things out, dude. You have been told lies and have believed them to the core of your very heart and soul, brother. But it's not too late to open your eyes, recognize you've been mislead, and get back on the right path.
read the context mike.the bible says that Christ is LORD and GOD
john 20.28now, if you read the context of rev 1.8-18 it refers to christ.
i will come again says the bible.
you do not know greek mike.
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