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Just deal with Micah 5:4 for now, jammin. Tell me why someone who is all powerful would:
A. Have a God of his own
B. Have to rule in the strength of his God instead of in his own strength.

i have already answered your question

God said to his son – your throne O God

also, micah 5.4 did not say that christ is not all powerful.
In the strength of the Lord – He, who feedeth them with divine tenderness, shall also have divine might, His Father's and His own, to protect them; as He saith, “My sheep hear My Voice, and I know them and they follow Me, neither shall any man pluck them out of My Hand. My Father Which gave them Me is greater than all, and no man is able to pluck them out of My Father's Hand. I and My Father are One” John 10:27-30. With authority, it is said, “He commandeth even the unclean spirits and they come out” Luke 4:36. His feeding or teaching also was “with authority, and not as the scribes” Matthew 7:29

Not only have you not already answered my questions, but this most recent post doesn't answer them either.

Try again with DIRECT answers please.

May 13, 2012 at 6:17 pm#297860

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Quote (Ed J @ May 13 2012,12:10)

Hi Jammin,

Rev 4:2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold,
a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

Who does John see sitting on the throne?

1. GOD
2. Jesus

Please answer 1 or 2

Now that's what I'm talking about, Ed! That is how it is done.

May 13, 2012 at 6:22 pm#297861

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you are not all powerful………..

Nor is Jesus:

4 He will stand and shepherd his flock
in the strength of………….the LORD his God.

If Jesus was all-powerful, he would not be ruling in the strength of his God, but in his OWN strength.

Nor does God Most High have a God of his own.

jammin, your unscriptural doctrine seems to be based in nonsense.

let the bible speak
Revelation 1:8

8 The Lord God says, `I am the First and the Last. I am the beginning and the ending. I live now. I always have lived, and I will come again. I have all power.'

Hebrews 1:8

8 But here is what God says about his Son: `O God, you will sit and rule for ever. You will rule in the right way.

micah 5.4 did not say that Christ is not all powerful. that is just your imagination LOL

Don't be a grasshopper, jammin.

The verse is Micah 5:4. And the verse says that Jesus will rule in the strength of Jehovah, HIS GOD.

Would someone who is all powerful have the need to rule in the strength of HIS OWN GOD?

(Rev 1:8 is about Jehovah, and Heb 1:8 – even translated the way you posted it – only teaches that Jesus is called a god. But Jesus' own God already foretold that would happen in Is 9:6 anyway, right?)

Just deal with Micah 5:4 for now, jammin. Tell me why someone who is all powerful would:
A. Have a God of his own
B. Have to rule in the strength of his God instead of in his own strength.

i have already answered your question

God said to his son – your throne O God

Hi Jammin,

Rev 4:2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold,
a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

Who does John see sitting on the throne?

1. GOD
2. Jesus

Please answer 1 or 2

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

what is the purpose of this question?

May 13, 2012 at 6:24 pm#297863

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 14 2012,04:47)

Just deal with Micah 5:4 for now, jammin. Tell me why someone who is all powerful would:
A. Have a God of his own
B. Have to rule in the strength of his God instead of in his own strength.

i have already answered your question

God said to his son – your throne O God

Not only have you not already answered my questions, but this most recent post doesn't answer them either.

Try again with DIRECT answers please.

micah 5.4 did not say christ is not all powerful.

rev 1.8 says he is all powerful.
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May 13, 2012 at 6:39 pm#297869

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 14 2012,05:17)

Quote (Ed J @ May 13 2012,12:10)

Hi Jammin,

Rev 4:2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold,
a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

Who does John see sitting on the throne?

1. GOD
2. Jesus

Please answer 1 or 2

Now that's what I'm talking about, Ed! That is how it is done.

Hi Mike,

I only do things to others that they do.
But I know that he won't answer.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

May 13, 2012 at 6:40 pm#297870

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the son is GOD by nature

Hi Jammin,

Your use of foreign terminology is unclear?
What does 'GOD by nature' even mean?

You have said the “Son of GOD” is GOD?

Quote (jammin @ May 12 2012,01:46)

GOD is the son of GOD.

And we know through biblical record that Mary is Jesus' mother.

1. Are you suggesting that Mary is “Mother Nature”? Or
2. Are you suggesting that Mary is the “Mother of GOD”?

Choose 1 or 2

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

He didn't answer this one either.

May 13, 2012 at 6:44 pm#297871

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Quote (Ed J @ May 14 2012,05:10)

Hi Jammin,

Rev 4:2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold,
a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

Who does John see sitting on the throne?

1. GOD
2. Jesus

Please answer 1 or 2

God bless
Ed J

what is the purpose of this question?

Hi Jammin,

In the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
Now John said he saw one sitting on the throne, which one? …do you know?

1. GOD
2. Jesus

Please answer 1 or 2

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

May 13, 2012 at 6:44 pm#297872

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Yeah Ed.

I saw where he was asking, “God the Son, or God the Father?”. But if there is truly only ONE God Almighty, then Mary couldn't be the mother of one and not the other, right?

May 13, 2012 at 6:47 pm#297874

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micah 5.4 did not say christ is not all powerful.

rev 1.8 says he is all powerful.

I think that saying Jesus will rule in the strength of his own God is pretty much admitting that Jesus himself is not all powerful.

And Rev 1:8 is about Jehovah, not Jesus. If you answer Ed's latest question, you'll soon find that out.

May 13, 2012 at 6:49 pm#297875

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 14 2012,05:44)

Yeah Ed.

I saw where he was asking, “God the Son, or God the Father?”. But if there is truly only ONE God Almighty, then Mary couldn't be the mother of one and not the other, right?

Hi Mike,

I don't understand your question, there is no 'God the Son'?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

May 13, 2012 at 6:50 pm#297876

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 14 2012,05:47)

Quote (jammin @ May 13 2012,12:24)

micah 5.4 did not say christ is not all powerful.

rev 1.8 says he is all powerful.

I think that saying Jesus will rule in the strength of his own God is pretty much admitting that Jesus himself is not all powerful.

And Rev 1:8 is about Jehovah, not Jesus. If you answer Ed's latest question, you'll soon find that out.

Christ is that jehovah in rev 1.8

8 The Lord God says, `I am the First and the Last. I am the beginning and the ending. I live now. I always have lived, and I will come again. I have all power.'

May 13, 2012 at 6:51 pm#297877

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Quote (Ed J @ May 14 2012,05:10)

Hi Jammin,

Rev 4:2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold,
a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

Who does John see sitting on the throne?

1. GOD
2. Jesus

Please answer 1 or 2

God bless
Ed J

what is the purpose of this question?

Hi Jammin,

In the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
Now John said he saw one sitting on the throne, which one? …do you know?

1. GOD
2. Jesus

Please answer 1 or 2

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

what is the purpose of this question?

May 13, 2012 at 7:08 pm#297883

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Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,05:51)

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Quote (Ed J @ May 14 2012,05:10)

Hi Jammin,

Rev 4:2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold,
a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

Who does John see sitting on the throne?

1. GOD
2. Jesus

Please answer 1 or 2

God bless
Ed J

what is the purpose of this question?

Hi Jammin,

In the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
Now John said he saw one sitting on the throne, which one? …do you know?

1. GOD
2. Jesus

Please answer 1 or 2

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

what is the purpose of this question?

Hi Jammin,

Your question is not one of clarification purposes, but one of motivation purposes; here is your answer…

The reason I ask, is to establish truth.

Rev 4:2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold,
a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

Who does John see sitting on the throne?

1. GOD
2. Jesus

Please answer 1 or 2

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

May 13, 2012 at 11:12 pm#297930

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Quote (Ed J @ May 14 2012,04:05)

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By the divine nature he means not the substance of the Godhead, but the partaking of those qualities, by which the image of God is restored in us.

Quote (Ed J @ May 09 2012,16:51)

Divine nature: having the nature of the Godhead.

Hi Jammin,

It would seems you agree with my definition of “divine nature” then; correct?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Jammin?

May 13, 2012 at 11:14 pm#297931

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Quote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,19:07)

Hi Jammin, Question #2:

First you claim my question is not specific enough, (First post on page)
and now you're claiming you answered; (last post you made)
but NEITHER are really true!

(Jammin) GOD: means supreme being
(Ed J,) GOD: the creator of the universe.
For reference, Here is the definitions of “GOD”.

You answered a different question, one that I didn't ask?
I didn't ask… 'do you believed the son is GOD by nature.'

What I instead asked is:
are you suggesting that Mary is(?) the mother of God?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Jammin?

May 13, 2012 at 11:58 pm#297945

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Christ is that jehovah in rev 1.8

8 The Lord God says, `I am the First and the Last. I am the beginning and the ending. I live now. I always have lived, and I will come again. I have all power.'

jammin,

Compare the words in 1:8 with the words in 1:4-5……….
Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits before his throne, 5 and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness……..

It seems that He who “is, was, and is to come” in this passage refers to someone other than Jesus Christ. (Do you see the words “AND from Jesus Christ”? )

May 14, 2012 at 2:32 am#297972

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Quote (Ed J @ May 14 2012,10:14)

Quote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,19:07)

Hi Jammin, Question #2:

First you claim my question is not specific enough, (First post on page)
and now you're claiming you answered; (last post you made)
but NEITHER are really true!

(Jammin) GOD: means supreme being
(Ed J,) GOD: the creator of the universe.
For reference, Here is the definitions of “GOD”.

You answered a different question, one that I didn't ask?
I didn't ask… 'do you believed the son is GOD by nature.'

What I instead asked is:
are you suggesting that Mary is(?) the mother of God?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Jammin?

the father is God
the son is God

john 20.28 – thomas said to jesus , my Lord and my God!

are you referring to the father or son?

May 14, 2012 at 2:51 am#297974

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Quote (jammin @ April 07 2012,00:10)

i answered that alraedy. are you blind LOL

what answer do you want? a yes or no only?

1.no.
2.the bible says mother of the “LORD. “

that is my answer.

Hi Jammin:

Is Mary the mother of “God the Son”?

May 14, 2012 at 3:08 am#297978

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Christ is that jehovah in rev 1.8

8 The Lord God says, `I am the First and the Last. I am the beginning and the ending. I live now. I always have lived, and I will come again. I have all power.'

jammin,

It seems that He who “is, was, and is to come” in this passage refers to someone other than Jesus Christ. (Do you see the words “AND from Jesus Christ”? )

read the context mike.

verse 8 refers to christ

rev 1. 8 ,17
8 The Lord God says, `I am the First and the Last. I am the beginning and the ending. I live now. I always have lived, and I will come again. I have all power.'

17 When I saw Him, I fell down at His feet like a dead man. He laid His right hand on me and said, “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. 18 I am the Living One. I was dead, but look, I am alive forever. I have power over death and hell.

the bible says , i will come again. the father did not became flesh and dwelt among us but the son.

May 14, 2012 at 3:09 am#297979