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  • #296850
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ May 07 2012,14:43)

    Quote (jammin @ May 07 2012,04:17)
    edj,

    just pick your answer
    ill repeat

    wht did peter say in 2 pet 1.4

    1.do you exist in the form of God
    2. you might be partakers of divine nature.

    choose 1 or 2 for your answer

    nick let edj answer my question


    edj, how about answering his question with

  • 1)
  • 2)
  • Neither
  • I don't know.

    We are here to answer questions about what we believe and the Hot Seat requires that yoyu answer questions that you avoid. It is the purpose of this forum.


  • Hi T8,

    I have answered his question.
    It is Jammin who refuses to answer mine.
    Here's a list of the questions that “he” refuses to answer!

    Questions Jammin has answered (only one so far)…

    Quote (jammin @ April 07 2012,00:10)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 06 2012,21:03)
    Hi Jammin,

    Question #1:
    Do we become God when we have God's divine nature?

    God bless
    Ed J


    no.

    that is my answer.


    Questions Jammin still refuses to answer…

    Question #2:
    are you suggesting that Mary is(?) the mother of God?

    Question #3:
    Do you believe “The Word” (ο λογος  Hō Lōgôs) is your “God” or the son of your “God”?

    Question #4:
    When we read “The LORD” in the “AKJV Bible”, is it speaking of [יהוה] YÄ-hä-vā  or  [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă ?

    Question #5:
    Who do YOU say [יהוה] is?

    Quote (jammin @ April 24 2012,19:03)
    what did john said??

    did he say the word is the son of GOD or the holy spirit?


    Question #6

    He said: “The Word” was GOD.
    Do you deny that the “HolySpirit” is GOD?  

    Quote (jammin @ April 27 2012,00:39)
    read carefully your verse.

    “might be” partakers of divine nature is not the same as being in the nature of GOD


    Question #7:

    How do you define the term: “divine nature” Jammin?

    You have yet to answer these remaining six questions.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #296851
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ May 07 2012,14:43)

    Quote (jammin @ May 07 2012,04:17)
    edj,

    just pick your answer
    ill repeat

    wht did peter say in 2 pet 1.4

    1.do you exist in the form of God
    2. you might be partakers of divine nature.

    choose 1 or 2 for your answer

    nick let edj answer my question


    edj, how about answering his question with

  • 1)
  • 2)
  • Neither
  • I don't know.

    We are here to answer questions about what we believe and the Hot Seat requires that yoyu answer questions that you avoid. It is the purpose of this forum.


  • Hi T8,

    He's attempting to detach the pertinent connection of
    Phil. 2:5-6 from its associative counterpart of 2 Peter 1:3-4!
    We all can see plain as day what is in 2Peter 1:4 so don't play dumb.

    2) “According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness,
    through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: Whereby are given unto us exceeding
    great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature,
    having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.” (2 Peter 1:3-4)

    The Apostle Peter was saying the same thing the Apostle Paul was saying…

    1) 2:5 τουτο γαρ φρονεισθω εν υμιν ο και εν χριστω ιησου
    2:6 ος εν μορφη θεου υπαρχων ουχ αρπαγμον ηγησατο το ειναι ισα θεω

    (Phil 2:5-6) 2:5 This understanding is in you in Christ Jesus:
    2:6 In the form that God exists, think it not robbery to be considered equal.

    Here is something else the Apostle Peter said…

    “As our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
    As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard
    to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest,
    as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.” (2 Peter 3:15-16)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #296852
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ May 07 2012,15:37)

    Quote (Ed J @ May 05 2012,12:46)

    Quote (terraricca @ May 04 2012,15:52)
    edj

    (1)how can you put on the new men if you do not have the truth ???

    (2)you have established your own truth and follow it ,and so declare that you are a new man with a new nature is this it ????

    (3)you use bible words but do not produce the fruits their of ,


    PIERRE

    1) What are you, Pierre, calling “The Truth”?
    2) This is an accusation, not a question.
    3) This is yet another accusation.

    If you would ask real questions, I would surly answer them.
    Instead what you are calling questions is merely a foolish
    attempt to get others to agree with you that you are
    right and they are wrong. This is not wise Pierre.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    Quote
    If you would ask real questions, I would surly answer them.

    eddy,looking for answers from a person that believe that Christ has already return at the pentecost ,
    and the the WORD OF GOD  is the holy spirit ,and that hardly answers direct questions any way ,

    it scares me to hell ,

    I would not trust you for the world ,unless you come to the truth of scriptures and submit yourself to God 100 % then I would see that you are realy truthfull ,


    PIERRE,

    You are entitled to “your” opinion.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #296853
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Edj, if you have truly answered his question, then Jammin should stop asking the question. How about it Jammin?

    #296857
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 30 2012,16:59)
    Question #7:

    How do you define the term: “divine nature” Jammin?


    HI T8,

    I answered question #7 since he refused to…
    Divine nature: having the nature of the Godhead.
    You too can be a partaker of this divine nature as well?

    Put on the “New Man” Jammin, and you too can have God's divine nature. (Eph 4:24)
    “put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.”

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #296869
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ May 07 2012,23:08)

    Quote (terraricca @ May 07 2012,15:37)

    Quote (Ed J @ May 05 2012,12:46)

    Quote (terraricca @ May 04 2012,15:52)
    edj

    (1)how can you put on the new men if you do not have the truth ???

    (2)you have established your own truth and follow it ,and so declare that you are a new man with a new nature is this it ????

    (3)you use bible words but do not produce the fruits their of ,


    PIERRE

    1) What are you, Pierre, calling “The Truth”?
    2) This is an accusation, not a question.
    3) This is yet another accusation.

    If you would ask real questions, I would surly answer them.
    Instead what you are calling questions is merely a foolish
    attempt to get others to agree with you that you are
    right and they are wrong. This is not wise Pierre.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    Quote
    If you would ask real questions, I would surly answer them.

    eddy,looking for answers from a person that believe that Christ has already return at the pentecost ,
    and the the WORD OF GOD  is the holy spirit ,and that hardly answers direct questions any way ,

    it scares me to hell ,

    I would not trust you for the world ,unless you come to the truth of scriptures and submit yourself to God 100 % then I would see that you are realy truthfull ,


    PIERRE,

    You are entitled to “your” opinion.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    I did not know that for you the scriptures are all but OPINIONS,

    so what do you have left in you ???

    you are a teacher of OPINIONS

    #296875
    jammin
    Participant

    t8,

    edj is not asnwering my question that is why im repeating it. you can back track the conversation and you will see how this edj refused to answer my question so many times.

    i just want him to pick what peter said in 2 pet1.4 but he is giving me a different answer to my question over and over again.

    edj, why dont you face the truth and accept that you are really a teacher of opinions just like terrarica said LOL

    #296878
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Jammin,

    You need to understand the bible as a whole to understand God's word.
    That is why you're having trouble understanding GOD is his word.
    Furthermore God births us into his kingdom via his word.

    the glory as of the only begotten of the Father (John 1:14) com-
    pared
    with the glory which shall be revealed in us
    . (Romans 8:18)

    The Word of the oath, which was since the law,
    maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore. (Hebrews 7:28)

    1Pet.1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of
    incorruptible, by “The Word” of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

    The kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness,
    and peace, and joy in the HolySpirit.” (Rom. 14:17)

    Of his own will begat he us with “The Word” of truth,
    that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. (James 1:18)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #296879
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ May 08 2012,01:51)
    t8,

    edj is not asnwering my question that is why im repeating it. you can back track the conversation and you will see how this edj refused to answer my question so many times.

    i just want him to pick what peter said in 2 pet1.4 but he is giving me a different answer to my question over and over again.

    edj, why dont you face the truth and accept that you are really a teacher of opinions just like terrarica said LOL


    Hi Jammin,

    Not answering your questions within the confines
    of your restrictions does not constitute as a non-answer! (see link)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #296979
    jammin
    Participant

    edj,
    you are just making excuses LOL
    do not explain

    just pick your answer
    ill repeat

    wht did peter say in 2 pet 1.4

    1.do you exist in the form of God
    2. you might be partakers of divine nature.

    choose 1 or 2 for your answer

    #296987
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ May 08 2012,14:29)
    edj,
    you are just making excuses LOL
    do not explain

    just pick your answer
    ill repeat

    wht did peter say in 2 pet 1.4

    1.do you exist in the form of God
    2. you might be partakers of divine nature.

    choose 1 or 2 for your answer


    Hi Jammin, (1 Equal, 2 Of course because of 1.)

    1) 2:5 τουτο γαρ φρονεισθω εν υμιν ο και εν χριστω ιησου
    2:6 ος εν μορφη θεου υπαρχων ουχ αρπαγμον ηγησατο το ειναι ισα θεω

    (Phil 2:5-6) 2:5 This understanding is in you in Christ Jesus:
    2:6 In the form that God exists, think it not robbery to be considered equal.

    2) “According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness,
    through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: Whereby are given unto us exceeding
    great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature,
    having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.” (2 Peter 1:3-4)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #296998
    jammin
    Participant

    edj,

    do not explain

    just pick your answer
    ill repeat

    wht did peter say in 2 pet 1.4

    1.do you exist in the form of God
    2. you might be partakers of divine nature.

    choose 1 or 2 for your answer

    #297000
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Jammin,

    You can exclude yourself from understanding,
    but you cannot exclude others from understanding.
    You use this as an excuse to not answer my questions.

    Question #2:
    are you suggesting that Mary is(?) the mother of God?

    Question #3:
    Do you believe “The Word” (ο λογος  Hō Lōgôs) is your “God” or the son of your “God”?

    Question #4:
    When we read “The LORD” in the “AKJV Bible”, is it speaking of [יהוה] YÄ-hä-vā  or  [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă ?

    Question #5:
    Who do YOU say [יהוה] is?

    Quote (jammin @ April 24 2012,19:03)
    what did john said??

    did he say the word is the son of GOD or the holy spirit?


    Question #6

    He said: “The Word” was GOD.
    Do you deny that the “HolySpirit” is GOD?  

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #297001
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Jammin,

    Why not just answer my questions?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #297010
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    It is shameful conduct when Christians use deception to ignore a question.
    Being honest is a virtue that is expected of a believer.
    Being dishonest actually hurts oneself as well.

    I am not saying who is not answering questions here, but according to both of you, at least one of you is not.

    Where is your fruit?

    #297018
    jammin
    Participant

    i already answered your questions edj.

    but if you want to repeat my anwer then ill repeat it
    Question #2:
    are you suggesting that Mary is(?) the mother of God?
    answer: your question is not specific, bec in the bible the son is GOD by nature. the father is also GOD by nature. who is the GOD you are referring to? the father or the son?

    Question #3:
    Do you believe “The Word” (ο λογος Hō Lōgôs) is your “God” or the son of your “God”?
    answer: the WORD in john 1.1 is the son of God the father (verse14-18). the son is also GOD by nature
    phil 2.6
    For he, who had always been God by nature, did not cling to his prerogatives as God’s equal,

    Question #4:
    When we read “The LORD” in the “AKJV Bible”, is it speaking of [יהוה] YÄ-hä-vā or [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă ?
    answer: give me the exact verse and ill tell you who is that LORD

    Question #5:
    Who do YOU say [יהוה] is?
    answer: what verse? give me the verse and ill tell you who is that GOD

    Question #6

    He said: “The Word” was GOD.
    Do you deny that the “HolySpirit” is GOD?

    answer: the WORD was GOD! i do not deny that the HS is GOD by nature but in john 1.1, the WORD refers to the son and not to the HS!
    John 1:14-18

    New Living Translation (NLT)

    14 So the Word became human[a] and made his home among us. He was full of unfailing love and faithfulness. And we have seen his glory, the glory of the Father’s one and only Son.

    now answer my questions
    1.what did john said??

    did he say the word is the son of GOD or the holy spirit?

    2.just pick your answer
    ill repeat

    wht did peter say in 2 pet 1.4

    1.do you exist in the form of God
    2. you might be partakers of divine nature.

    choose 1 or 2 for your answer

    #297019
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ May 09 2012,01:32)
    Hi Jammin,

    You can exclude yourself from understanding,
    but you cannot exclude others from understanding.
    You use this as an excuse to not answer my questions.

    Question #2:
    are you suggesting that Mary is(?) the mother of God?

    Question #3:
    Do you believe “The Word” (ο λογος  Hō Lōgôs) is your “God” or the son of your “God”?

    Question #4:
    When we read “The LORD” in the “AKJV Bible”, is it speaking of [יהוה] YÄ-hä-vā  or  [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă ?

    Question #5:
    Who do YOU say [יהוה] is?

    Quote (jammin @ April 24 2012,19:03)
    what did john said??

    did he say the word is the son of GOD or the holy spirit?


    Question #6

    He said: “The Word” was GOD.
    Do you deny that the “HolySpirit” is GOD?  

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    Quote
    but you cannot exclude others from understanding.

    it should be;but you cannot exclude others from understanding WHAT THEY WANT TO BELIEVE :D

    #297099
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Jammin, (Question #7 define “divine nature”)
    do you accept this definition of “divine nature”?

    Divine nature: having the nature of the Godhead.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #297104
    jammin
    Participant

    so you are asking again another question but you are not answring mine.

    answer first my question. i already answered your questions above,

    1).what did john said??

    did he say the word is the son of GOD or the holy spirit?
    ————————————————

    2).just pick your answer

    wht did peter say in 2 pet 1.4

    1.do you exist in the form of God
    2. you might be partakers of divine nature.

    choose 1 or 2 for your answer

    #297105
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ May 09 2012,16:51)
    Hi Jammin, (Question #7 define “divine nature”)
    do you accept this definition of “divine nature”?

    Divine nature: having the nature of the Godhead.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    give me the verse and ill explain it to you

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