Food for thought

[Stu]

Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 18 2010,00:37)

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 07 2010,06:38) Quote “Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.” -the marvelous physicist Steven Weinberg Quote “We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another.” -Jonathan Swift Was he saying that MORE christianity would have helped things?? Quote “The tendency to turn human judgments into divine commands makes religion one of the most dangerous forces in the world.” -Georgia Harkness And indeed she has the problem as a theologian of demonstrating that humans are able to make any judgements about the thoughts of supernatural beings, which I am sure she herself would have done often. Quote “Religion consists of a set of things which the average man thinks he believes and wishes he was certain” -the superb Mark Twain Quote “If there is a God, atheism must seem to Him as less of an insult than religion.” -Edmond de Goncourt Valuable post, dirtyknections. Actual food for thought. Your point is about traditions versus scripture I guess, but why not take it to its logical conclusion?   God belief according to the Judeo-christian scriptures is an insult to human dignity.  We just have too much of that as well, more so when you consider creationists and other idiot literalists.  Claiming to know what god wants others to do should really be seen as the borderline personality disorder that it is.  Wishing religious dogmas to be true is surely a life half-lived.  Atheism is only an insult to those who confuse their own identity with the crazy ideas they carry in their heads. Stuart Greetings Stu…. A valid presentation in support of your argument about religion….and I actually agree with Edmon DeGoncourt….It is religion that creates atheism…and does so by empowering certain parotic individuals that mindlessly repeat and mis interpret scripture….It is through the power of God and the presense of his spirit that affords some folks who are chosen to understand and teach the message of the scriptures. Some of them are teachers,some are evanglists and some are healers….these folks are among us but you will never hear them exalting themselves they live exempletory lives….when you meet one of these individuals you will find they are not pompous,boistous or religous…

Obviously I cannot understand the attraction for teaching the scriptures, or listening to such a teacher; a teacher of Shakespeare would be worth listening to.

Is it religion that creates atheism? It certainly defines it, but the fact of believing in a god is the strange addition here: we are all born atheist, but we could also argue that we are all born normal, and infected later with the paranoias and obsessions of god memes.

This is the point at which I become uncomfortable with the word atheism, not because I do not identify with that position, but because it defines me in terms of the religious beliefs of others. It appears to place on me a burden of proof where none should rightly exist.

Good to see you avoiding red in this thread!!

Stuart

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William Shakespeare
A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool.

King David
The fool has said in his heart there is no God.

[Stu]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 18 2010,17:26)

William Shakespeare A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool. King David The fool has said in his heart there is no God.

I am happy to be the “fool” that demonstrates what an absurdity the book of Psalms is.

Stuart

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So long as you are happy to be that fool, then at least you have some temporal happiness, even if your conclusions are foolish.
Temporal happiness is better than no happiness at all.
But reality does has a way of waking people up from their dream world. But carry on dreaming that nothing did nothing and then exploded into everything and rearranged itself into galaxies, stars, planets, moons, and dinosaurs.
Good luck. BTW, buy a lotto ticket. Better odds.

[Stu]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 19 2010,12:46)

So long as you are happy to be that fool, then at least you have some temporal happiness, even if your conclusions are foolish. Temporal happiness is better than no happiness at all. But reality does has a way of waking people up from their dream world. But carry on dreaming that nothing did nothing and then exploded into everything and rearranged itself into galaxies, stars, planets, moons, and dinosaurs. Good luck. BTW, buy a lotto ticket. Better odds.

So first we have the religious platitude of “eternal”, and now “temporal happiness”. Another exercise in naming something undefined.

Stuart

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