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•Not having the sin nature of fallen man, Jesus Christ learned perfect obedience to God in the days of His flesh, paving the way for those who believe on Him to obtain like power of grace. In the state of Adam before the fall, He resisted temptation and overcame for us all. (Could Jesus Christ Have Sinned? & Grace – The Reality)
http://www.thepathoftruth.com/statementofdoctrine.htm
Problems with this statement of Doctrine is 1. Paul Cohen believes that Jesus is God but then says “Jesus learned obedience to God” Why would God need to “learn” how to obey Himself?
2. Paul Cohen says that the state of Adam before “The Fall” resisted temptation but does Paul Cohen realize that Adam was in the state of Adam when he commited his rebellion he did not acquire a new state it was the result of him making a choice in his initial state. If Adam was Made in a state where he could not have sinned then he could not have sinned.
•There is no single perfect Bible translation, and besides, men have tampered with some of the Biblical texts. The only way to know or understand the Bible is by the Spirit of God and by preachers sent by God who perceive and teach the Word in His Spirit. (How We View and Use the Scriptures & Is the KJV the Perfect Word of God?)
http://www.thepathoftruth.com/statementofdoctrine.htm
So, the Bible has been corrupted?
•Many are deceived into thinking they worship God, when in reality they worship the Bible. God is not contained within two leather covers. Those who think otherwise are Bibliolaters. The written Word of God is not the Word of God made flesh. (False Christianity Unmasked & Bible Worship Used by Men to Cover Evil)
http://www.thepathoftruth.com/statementofdoctrine.htm
Wouldn't this statement also mean that the Quran could be the word of God? You would have to be a Bibliolater to totally disagree.
bodhitharta,
The only one “tampering” with the written word of God is you. You twist what is said and call His very word into doubt (sounds familiar). You “use” Bible verses taken out of context to “prove your point” while rejecting the other 95% that prove you wrong, all along pushing your brand of islam.My opinion – Wm
Quote (seekingtruth @ Oct. 21 2010,13:01) bodhitharta,
The only one “tampering” with the written word of God is you. You twist what is said and call His very word into doubt (sounds familiar). You “use” Bible verses taken out of context to “prove your point” while rejecting the other 95% that prove you wrong, all along pushing your brand of islam.My opinion – Wm
•There is no single perfect Bible translation, and besides, men have tampered with some of the Biblical texts. The only way to know or understand the Bible is by the Spirit of God and by preachers sent by God who perceive and teach the Word in His Spirit. (How We View and Use the Scriptures & Is the KJV the Perfect Word of God?)Paul Cohen
Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 21 2010,06:20) •There is no single perfect Bible translation, and besides, men have tampered with some of the Biblical texts. The only way to know or understand the Bible is by the Spirit of God and by preachers sent by God who perceive and teach the Word in His Spirit. (How We View and Use the Scriptures & Is the KJV the Perfect Word of God?) http://www.thepathoftruth.com/statementofdoctrine.htm
So, the Bible has been corrupted?
Actually if you read their article you will see what they mean by that and also put the importance of having trust and faith in God.“It is the Spirit that makes alive, the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit and are life” (John 6:63).
The point made here is that nothing physical or of this physical realm can be wholly trusted because nothing in the physical realm is perfect…nothing at all, purposely so. This realm, the Bible says, is the realm of corruption and vanity. It is written:
Romans 8:20-25 KJV
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No, the Bible is not the Final Authority. The Final Authority is God.With this truth in mind, let us not place our highest trust in this realm at all, in the things which are seen, but in God, Who is above all, and Who alone is to be trusted and worshipped. We often have been attacked by Bibliolaters for declaring that the Bible, in whatever translation, is not the “final authority” but rather that God Himself is. They assume that because they heard of God and of the Gospel of Jesus Christ by the Scriptures, and because no other book is the “Word of God,” that therefore “the buck stops” with the Bible.
They do not allow that it is God Who sends the preachers and writers. It is God Who anoints them by His Spirit to speak and bear witness. It is God Who inspired the writers to record the Scriptures, and some of the translations. It is God Who opens the understanding of man to believe and to receive the truth in Scripture.
http://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/kjv.htm
Is the King James Authorized Version the Perfect Word of God?Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 21 2010,06:22) •Many are deceived into thinking they worship God, when in reality they worship the Bible. God is not contained within two leather covers. Those who think otherwise are Bibliolaters. The written Word of God is not the Word of God made flesh. (False Christianity Unmasked & Bible Worship Used by Men to Cover Evil) http://www.thepathoftruth.com/statementofdoctrine.htm
Wouldn't this statement also mean that the Quran could be the word of God? You would have to be a Bibliolater to totally disagree.
Bod,
Are you really willing to steep that low to promote the quran?
That makes no sense whats so ever….This is what i say your adding to what is not said, or making implications to what is not said.
There clear point is that the Bible is NOT God.
Yet you twist this to include the quran?
Quote (seekingtruth @ Oct. 21 2010,07:01) bodhitharta,
The only one “tampering” with the written word of God is you. You twist what is said and call His very word into doubt (sounds familiar). You “use” Bible verses taken out of context to “prove your point” while rejecting the other 95% that prove you wrong, all along pushing your brand of islam.My opinion – Wm
I second that,Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 21 2010,13:24) Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 21 2010,06:22) •Many are deceived into thinking they worship God, when in reality they worship the Bible. God is not contained within two leather covers. Those who think otherwise are Bibliolaters. The written Word of God is not the Word of God made flesh. (False Christianity Unmasked & Bible Worship Used by Men to Cover Evil) http://www.thepathoftruth.com/statementofdoctrine.htm
Wouldn't this statement also mean that the Quran could be the word of God? You would have to be a Bibliolater to totally disagree.
Bod,
Are you really willing to steep that low to promote the quran?
That makes no sense whats so ever….This is what i say your adding to what is not said, or making implications to what is not said.
There clear point is that the Bible is NOT God.
Yet you twist this to include the quran?
Actually, I am examining what they actually said they believe in which is “God is not contained within two leather covers”Are they wrong are or they right if they are right then how could you assume that something beyond the borders of those two leather covers is automatically untrue based on your view of what is between those two leather covers?
How We View and Use the Scriptures
The Book of Matthew Corrupted
The Book of Luke Corrupted: A Deathbed Conversion Tale
The Book and Letters of John CorruptedPaul and Victor
Quote (seekingtruth @ Oct. 21 2010,13:01) bodhitharta,
The only one “tampering” with the written word of God is you. You twist what is said and call His very word into doubt (sounds familiar). You “use” Bible verses taken out of context to “prove your point” while rejecting the other 95% that prove you wrong, all along pushing your brand of islam.My opinion – Wm
Hi Wm,HA Ha ha ha ha ha ! ! !
You are spot on about BD's use of The Bible!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 21 2010,14:15) Quote (seekingtruth @ Oct. 21 2010,13:01) bodhitharta,
The only one “tampering” with the written word of God is you. You twist what is said and call His very word into doubt (sounds familiar). You “use” Bible verses taken out of context to “prove your point” while rejecting the other 95% that prove you wrong, all along pushing your brand of islam.My opinion – Wm
Hi Wm,HA Ha ha ha ha ha ! ! !
You are spot on about BD's use of The Bible!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Actually he's notbodhitharta,
What part is untrue? Do you deny that if you apply a different meaning to parts of a book (the Bible) by superseding it from a different book (quran), that this is tampering. Do you deny that you believe that Jesus did not die, despite it being the major theme in the NT. Do you deny quoting scriptures, applying translations to it that would never work if you accepted that all scriptures were true? Do you deny that you believe the quran to be the true word of god?If I've wronged you I apologize but I believe I was accurate in my assessment.
My opinion – Wm
Quote (seekingtruth @ Oct. 22 2010,10:44) bodhitharta,
What part is untrue? Do you deny that if you apply a different meaning to parts of a book (the Bible) by superseding it from a different book (quran), that this is tampering. Do you deny that you believe that Jesus did not die, despite it being the major theme in the NT. Do you deny quoting scriptures, applying translations to it that would never work if you accepted that all scriptures were true? Do you deny that you believe the quran to be the true word of god?If I've wronged you I apologize but I believe I was accurate in my assessment.
My opinion – Wm
I accept your apology. I believe in progressive revelation if you believe in the OT and the NT you do too.I'm glad I was able to right a wrong, but you failed to inform me where it was that I had falsely accused you.
Yes I do believe in progressive revelation but it must be built on the scriptures, not conflict with them.
My opinion – Wm
Quote (seekingtruth @ Oct. 22 2010,13:59) I'm glad I was able to right a wrong, but you failed to inform me where it was that I had falsely accused you. Yes I do believe in progressive revelation but it must be built on the scriptures, not conflict with them.
My opinion – Wm
For something to be progressive it would automatically be conflicting. Jesus told those who were about to STONE the adulteress not to which is in direct conflict to the scriptures and what's more Jesus said let he who is without sin cast the first stone so if he qualified he should have thrown the first stone according to the scriptures, but he didn't and therein lies the conflict.Quote (seekingtruth @ Oct. 24 2010,04:57) He chose to show mercy, there was no conflict in teaching just further revelation.
You seem to miss the point, I'm not saying that conflict is bad but the fact is there were conflicts Moses allowed for divorce and Jesus said it should not be allowed except for sexual immorality.Jesus was circumcised and circumcision was made to be an everlasting covenant in the FLESH, Paul says no need for the gentiles to be circumcised that is a conflict. Also just to be clear about this matter:
And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.
Genesis 17:13-15
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