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Actually, go to the video I linked earlier with the big boat. The previous scene before the big boat I queued it to was a lighthouse that should have been below the curve.
Seriously, t8. If you were lost at sea, and woke up in the morning with your vessel resting on some land, could you tell whether you had landed on a tiny island, Australia, or America?
I would actually. I have photographed in Australia, America’s, Asia, Europe and they have distinct plants and animals that are dead giveaways. Add in climate and I could probably guess where I was.
And couldn’t a tiny island have the same flora? Sure. So now you see a pineapple palm tree. Have you sailed to Australia? North America? Chile? Or an unknown island that has pineapple palms?
Try to stay on point instead of diverting this time. You understand my point, and you know you can’t refute it. Just say so.
And couldn’t a tiny island have the same flora?
Islands have a sample of flora and fauna from the nearest continent. Mammals tend to be less represented due to the difficulty of getting to islands, but birds and plants give strong clues.
Also let it sink in that two different British ships trying to map the coast of the alleged continent of Antarctica (Captain Cook and then later the British ship Discovery) spent YEARS and traveled 35,000 miles without ever making it “around the continent”.
Um yeah. About that.
Tourism in Antarctica
You’re just not getting it. Yes, anyone can pay thousands of dollars and go on a GUIDED TOUR which takes you to THE EDGE of an ice shelf. Now please tell me how you could tell you were on a CONTINENT by standing within a couple miles of the ocean on the very edge of the alleged CONTINENT. Seriously, t8. If you were lost at sea, and woke up in the morning with your vessel resting on some land, could you tell whether you had landed on a tiny island, Australia, or America? Of course not! You’d have to explore INLAND to learn about the place you landed on, right? So can we get this one single thing straight once and for all?
Tourism in Antarctica started by the sea in the 1960s. Air overflights of Antarctica started in the 1970s with sightseeing flights by airliners from Australia and New Zealand, and were resumed in the 1990s. The (summer) tour season lasts from November to March. Most of the estimated 14,762 visitors to Antarctica from 1999–2000 were on sea cruises.[1] During the 2009 to 2010 tourist season, over 37,000 people visited Antarctica.Tourism companies are required by the Antarctic Treaty to have a permit to visit Antarctica.[2] Many sea cruises by cruise ships include a landing by RIB (Zodiac) or helicopter. Some land visits may include mountaineering, skiing or even a visit to the South Pole.
Most scenic flights to Antarctica have been organised from Australia and New Zealand, with airlines from both countries commencing flights in February 1977. The majority of the flights are simple return trips, and in no cases have they landed in Antarctica.
Air New Zealand’s first scenic flight took place on 15 February 1977 and was followed by five more that year, then four each in 1978 and 1979. The flights were operated with McDonnell-Douglas DC-10s and departed from Auckland, flying over Ross Island to McMurdo Sound before returning to Auckland with a fuel stop in Christchurch. Later flights flew down the middle of the Sound and over Scott Base rather than over Ross Island as the aircraft could descend to a low altitude to provide better visibility for passengers[note 1]. Many flights carried experienced Antarctic researchers as guides, including on at least one occasion Sir Edmund Hillary, and lasted roughly 12 hours with approximately four of them over or near the Antarctic mainland. Air New Zealand cancelled and never resumed their Antarctic flying programme in the aftermath of the TE901[note 2] disaster, where a route planning error lead to the aircraft crashing into Mount Erebus on 28 November 1979 with the loss of all 257 lives aboard.
Qantas operated its first Antarctic flight on 13 February 1977, a charter organised by Sydney entrepreneur Dick Smith. By 1979 twenty-seven flights had carried more than 7,000 passengers. Most used Boeing 747-200Bs and flew from Sydney, Melbourne or Perth on one of two “ice” routes. One went along the coast of George V Land to the French base in Adele Land then back over the South Magnetic Pole. The other went over Oates Land and northern Victoria Land to Cape Washington in the Ross Dependency. In 1977 one flight duplicated Air New Zealand’s routing and overflew McMurdo Sound and Mount Erebus. Some shorter flights from Melbourne were also operated by Boeing 707s.[6] Qantas also cancelled its Antarctic programme after the TE901 disaster but eventually resumed it in 1994, and continues to operate charter flights in summer from Sydney, Perth and Melbourne to this day with Boeing 747-400s.
There have also been earlier scenic overflights, including some from Chile in 1958.
There were private yacht voyages in the Southern Ocean from the late 1960s, with some circumnavigations of Antarctica e.g. by David Henry Lewis in 1972.[7]
There are now about 30 yachts each year visiting the Antarctic Peninsula, which is in the warmer “banana belt.”[clarify] Many four-day cruises leave from Tierra del Fuego in Argentina, others from Ushuaia or Stanley.
Only smaller vessels are allowed to bring their crew ashore. Sailing to Antarctica is the cleanest way to experience the place.
The Population of Antarctica
There are around 66 scientific bases in Antarctica, of which about 37 are occupied year round, the remainder are open during the summer and closed down for winter. There are about 4,000 people through the summer months and about 1,000 overwinter each year.
The US base at McMurdo Sound has up to 1,000 personnel at the peak time, this is the nearest there is to a town. With such a rapid turn-over of people, Antarctic bases are more like oil-rigs or military bases than towns.
The figures for the 2016-17 season show that there were 44,202 visitors. A little down on the figure of 47,225 in the peak season so far in 2007-08, though rising again after falling to 26,509 in 2011-12. The drop was due to the fact that large ships are no longer allowed to visit Antarctica due to fuel spillage dangers.
In terms of numbers, tourists greatly outnumber national programme personnel, though the personnel on scientific bases clock up more man-days. While tourists may only only spend a relatively small time ashore on landings (for the most part staying on their cruise ships), it is by its nature relatively “high-impact” time at the most picturesque and easily accessible areas, compare this to a scientist or support worker who spend most of their time working on a permanent or semi-permanent base.
Organising your own trip to Antarctica
Access to Antarctica is restricted by the Antarctic Treaty. If you want to organize your own trip or expedition there, you will have to request permission from the government of your own country. You will have to show that you will be completely self sufficient and have a very good reason for wanting to go which will have little or no environmental impact, you will have to show exactly how you will do this. If you can’t do these things, you will be denied permission and will be breaking the law (of your own country) if you just go anyway, you will also be breaking the law if you stay longer than you said you would or otherwise do anything against the Antarctic Treaty.
https://www.coolantarctica.com/Antarctica%20fact%20file/science/can_you_live_in_antarctica.php
Flat Earth Antarctica conspiracy theory debunked
Lack of proof, just wishful thinking from those who have an agenda to push.
I just totally ignored your huge copy and paste Antarctica info. None of it means anything unless you can show me a (proven) flight path that went directly over the “continent” (not just skimming the edge), a tour in which participants travel WAY inland for hundreds of miles, or a satellite photo that shows REAL land and features inland. Can you do ANY of those things? I say no. Prove me wrong.
Listen man, flat earthers believe the Antarctic is the crust of our pizza earth, right? So you and we are in agreement that there is a very high ice wall that extends away from the north pole at least a few miles.
Now in our view, this high land is not a continent, where one could travel from one edge heading south, pass the south pole, and head north to the other side, right? In your view, this COULD happen, right? So it’s time for logical thinking here.
In all your decades of watching nature adventure shows where people go to the most extreme places on earth (like to the bottom of the ocean and trekking across the Sahara or the outback), don’t you find it at least intriguing that NOBODY has ever done a Nat Geo or BBC show about trekking across Antarctica with sled dogs or something… with overhead views from balloons or helicopters or drones?
Secondly, if our view is correct and Google Earth (started by the CIA) is in on the scam, what would we expect to see? Probably REAL photos of the edges where the bases are, and then a bunch of fake CGI for the interior, where no real land even exists, right?
Isn’t it interesting that this is exactly what we DO see? Hmm…
I just totally ignored your huge copy and paste Antarctica info.
Of course because it is just lizard people propaganda.
Yes. But on the other hand, I’ve given you 3 clear non-lizard ways to prove your view on Antarctica, right? Which of the 3 will you begin with?
I also gave you 2 logical thinking points that match my view very well. What says such an honest man as you to those 2 points? Agree? Or refute?
A really good friend of mine has a dad who is a scientist. He has made the joke a few times that he has walked around the whole earth because he visited the South Pole and walked around it. Now there is always the chance that he is a lizard person who is lying. But I don’t think the chances are very high on that one.
But what do you have? Zero. You have Flat Earth videos of your view.
And how many pics or videos of the Flat Earth do you have? Again, you have zero. We have quite a lot.
Basically you have zero everything. Perhaps outstanding is the idea that some lighthouses and mountains should be able to be seen. But the examples I looked into added up quite nicely on a globe earth. So in my view you have zero proof of your Flat Earth.
Less empty talk and anecdotal “evidence”, and more of the actual proof I asked for, please. Thanks. 😉
Let’s start here…
In your view, wouldn’t we see actual photographic evidence of the entirety of Antarctica on Google Earth – instead of photographic evidence that the edges truly exist, but CGI for the interior?
In my view, where there is no interior, doesn’t Google Earth show exactly what we’d expect?
List of people who have walked across Australia
In all your decades of watching nature adventure shows where people go to the most extreme places on earth (like to the bottom of the ocean and trekking across the Sahara or the outback), don’t you find it at least intriguing that NOBODY has ever done a Nat Geo or BBC show about trekking across Antarctica with sled dogs or something… with overhead views from balloons or helicopters or drones?
Here is a list of people who have walked across Australia. Could these people be actors who are pretending that Australia exists? Can you prove that Australia exists? Australia is a fake continent to hide the fact that the British sailed their convicts out of England and drowned them in the sea. All those maps in classrooms with Australia on it has brainwashed nearly 100% of the population of Earth.
1 Robert Burke
2 William Wills
3 John King
4 Aidan De Brune
5 Bob and Bill Mossel, Sue Thompson, Annabel Douglas-Hill and Sharka Dolak
6 Dave Kunst
7 Dennis Bartell
8 Steven Newman
9 Roger Scott
10 Ffyona Campbell
11 Nobby Young
12 David Mason
13 Andrew Harper
14 Polly Letofsky
15 Jon Muir
16 Dave McKern
17 Deborah De Williams
18 John Olsen
19 Colin Ricketts
20 Jeff Johnson
21 Deanna Sorensen
22 Michael Mitchell
23 Gary Hause
24 Dave Leaning
25 Mike Pauly
26 Dave Phoenix
27 Mark Gibbens
28 Leigh Thomson-Mathews
29 Sam Thomson-Mathews
30 Mike Pauly
31 Jeff Johnson
32 Jacob French
33 Andrew Cadigan
34 Matt Napier
35 Steve Quirk
36 Brendon Alsop
37 Jimmy Harrington
38 Scott Loxley
39 Gary Wilmot
40 Veronica Hegarty
41 John Olsen
42 Arjun Bhogal
43 Ove Rasmussen Kjaer
44 Ashok Alexander
45 Tristan Harris
46 Terra Roam
47 Alwyn Dolan
48 Bob HanleyGreat. Pick any name from that list, and let’s see if we can VERIFY the claim, okay? Let’s see what you can come up with as far as verification.
In the meantime, doesn’t Google Earth show what we’d expect if I’m right – and not what we’d expect if you’re right?
First man to hike the Amazon Rainforest was in 2010
First man to hike Amazon River ends two-year, 4,000-mile trek
British explorer Ed Stafford finished his two-year, 4,000-mile trek along the Amazon River on Monday, completing a feat never before accomplished, his publicist said.
The hike, which he started at Camana, Peru, on April 2, 2008, ended Monday at Maruda Beach, Brazil.
Four months after he started, he was joined by Peruvian forestry worker Gadiel “Cho” Sanchez Rivera. Sanchez intended only to guide Stafford for five days through a dangerous area near Satipo, Peru, but stayed to the end of the expedition.
The 859-day journey took Stafford through three countries and a place in his body and soul he never imagined.
“I’m more tired and more elated than I’ve ever been in my life,” Stafford said in a release. “We’ve lived through some very serious situations and there have been times when we genuinely feared for our lives, but we never ever thought of giving up. The fact that everyone told us it was impossible spurred us on.
What are they trying to hide in the Amazon Rainforest?
Could it be the lost city of Atlantis?
In all your decades of watching nature adventure shows where people go to the most extreme places on earth (like to the bottom of the ocean and trekking across the Sahara or the outback), don’t you find it at least intriguing that NOBODY has ever done a Nat Geo or BBC show about trekking across the Amazon Rainforest or something… with overhead views from balloons or helicopters or drones?
What are they trying to hide in the Sahara Desert?
Could there be an entrance to the Hollow Earth?
In all your decades of watching nature adventure shows where people go to the most extreme places on earth (like to the bottom of the ocean and trekking across the Sahara or the outback), don’t you find it at least intriguing that NOBODY has ever done a Nat Geo or BBC show about trekking across the Sahara Desert or something… with overhead views from balloons or helicopters or drones?
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