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Anybody who is seriously interested in whether we live in the world God described in the Bible, or the one godless men have described as beginning with an explosion of nothing, should watch the video that D4T linked at the bottom of the previous page – from the 2:10 mark to the 4:10 mark. It only takes two minutes to see verifiable observational scientific evidence that we don’t live on a ball.
No Mike, that was T8’s question. My question was…
How can you have a longer than 12 hour sun-cycle in the south at any time, on any flat earth model.
Provide us a model that can show this observable truth. T8 can attest that they do have Summer in NZ.
Pointing to NASA being fake does nothing solve this dilemma in the flat earth model. I know NASA’s fake.____________
God bless
Ed JHi Mike,
And the inability to explain the movement of the stars and moon, in the night sky, is another shortfall.
I really don’t know if the earth is flat or round, but a celestial circle seems to fit the data better.I can discuss any topic with openness my brother in Christ. I’m going to be starting
a new topic, and I hope you will be willing to discuss something there with me.
I really do enjoy your attempts to be thorough about things – Keep it up!_____________
God bless
Ed J1) No one’s observed the Australian sun move faster across the sky than it does in the US
This alone debunks the Flat Earth.
Time to hang up your boots boys.
2) Shouldn’t be able to see this thing because 8 in/mi2
Flat Earthers love to show examples of things far away that should be over the curve. But they use a formula that works well enough at short distances, but becomes increasingly wrong at long distances. Why? Because the math they use is based on a parabola. Of course the earth is not shaped like a parabola.
Another knock out punch. Kapow!
3) Person in Australia doesn’t see different face of moon to a person in the US
Why does a person in Australia and another in the US see the same face of the moon? No one ever sees a different face of the moon. Yes a different amount, rotation, and size, but never a different face of the moon. Why? Because the moon is tidily locked to show the same face no matter where you are on the globe.
My friend Ben (Taboo Conspiracy) goes through 5 instances where “authorities” have faked observations in order to support their ball earth belief system. (Two of them directly involve the supposed 24 hour sun in Antarctica.) A person does not fake an observation without a reason. Occam’s Razor tells us that the most obvious reason to fake an observation is that the observation without the fakery contradicts the thing you’re trying to support. Great video, IMO…
Hey Ed, send me a pm when you start your thread and I’ll check it out. I probably won’t get to your other two posts until next weekend. Cheers.
D4T: Mike, that was a fantastic video! I wonder who will come out in support of their lies? As if….
Yes it was! The premise is very simple… If there really is an ISS in outer space, then there would be no reason to fake ANY of it. Yet there is ISS footage showing a scuba diver, reflections in visors that show cameramen dressed in street clothes, gravity making things fall in a non-gravity environment, astronauts fading out while the background remains stable – thus proving green screen technology with multiple layers, etc.
The same goes with the moon landing footage, where you can see old spark plugs in the dirt, for example. (It was filmed at a landfill in Flagstaff, AZ.) And then there’s the mushrooms growing on Mars and the Google Earth footage of the NASA Mars Rover roaming around on Devlin Island in Canada (which, coincidentally, is a perfect match of the landscape on Mars 🙄). And there are the images of the red storm on Jupiter from 2004 that are the EXACT SAME images of Jupiter from 2018. And so on and so on.
Nobody would FAKE something that was real. So why then are they trying to FAKE the 24 hour sun in Antarctica? All that’s needed is a little logical thinking.
As for your point, I was expecting Tater to come out with some hand-waving excuse for all the fakery in that video. After all, he’s STILL going on about the 8 inches per mile thing after he’s already been beaten over the head with the truth about it a dozen times. A sensible person would have figured it out after the first beat down. So what does that tell you about Tater? 😉
Ed: Pointing to NASA being fake does nothing solve this dilemma in the flat earth model. I know NASA’s fake.
Eddy… But WHY would they fake it? That’s the next logical question, right? Would you agree that if they could actually travel all over in space and go to the moon for real, they’d show REAL footage of this stuff? So what does the fact that they show FAKE footage instead tell you?
Ed: And the inability to explain the movement of the stars and moon, in the night sky, is another shortfall.
I really don’t know if the earth is flat or round, but a celestial circle seems to fit the data better.Google “celestial dome”, Ed. Every expert astronomer will tell you that we view the sky “as if” we are on a flat circle with a dome over our heads, and we’re watching various lights move across that dome in certain trajectories. What do you think a planetarium is? 😁
Ed: I can discuss any topic with openness my brother in Christ.
Amen! That’s how it should be! And even when we disagree (as we have on a few things throughout the last decade), neither of us has ever accused the other of lying. In fact, there is only one person on this site who ever called me a liar. And that’s including Kangaroo Jack, Worshiping Jesus, and even Just Askin. Remember him? 😂 He called me every other name in the book, but never a liar.
Ed: How can you have a longer than 12 hour sun-cycle in the south at any time, on any flat earth model.
I don’t currently know. I don’t know how you could have more than 12 in the north either. But I think it has to do with the coffee cup caustic…
Notice that the light source is a small circle (like the sun). Yet look at how the dome transfers that light almost completely around the entire cup. Also notice how there are 3 different hot spots – even from this one perspective. What about from a different perspective inside the cup? If I were in the middle, I’d see the hot spot at a certain place. If you were on the left, you’d see it in a different place. If D4T was on the right, he’d see it in yet another place. We don’t have a lot of experience testing the effects of a single light source from inside a glass dome (well, except for our world itself 😉). Take a look at this 1:46 minute video…
Notice how as the sun’s circle is farther from the middle of the disc, the more of the outside of the disk is illuminated, ie: more than a 12 hour day. Especially pay attention at the 1 minute mark. I think you’ll begin to understand – not HOW it works… but how it COULD work. Of course, we simply don’t know the specifics yet.
*Q sure is getting exciting lately, huh? 👍
Yeah, there are some strange things going on with the moon in Phoenix. For one, it always used to rise with the Sea of Crises at about 5 til 12. Now it rises with the SoC in a bunch of different places… which is weird because as a general rule, it’s said that the moon “follows” the SoC around, ie: the SoC is the “nose” of the moon.
Also, the moon here doesn’t normally do any field rotation from rise to zenith. All it’s 114 degrees of rotation happen from zenith to set. Yet I noticed yesterday that it had rotated 90 degrees from rise to zenith. Hmm… I guess I’ll have to start shooting a bunch of moon footage again.
I don’t currently know. I don’t know how you could have more than 12 in the north either. But I think it has to do with the coffee cup caustic…
Fantastic. A rare moment of honesty. Perhaps you could extend this moment to that question about the Australian sun having to move faster across the sky according to the flat earth model?
Yeah, there are some strange things going on with the moon in Phoenix. For one, it always used to rise with the Sea of Crises at about 5 til 12. Now it rises with the SoC in a bunch of different places… which is weird because as a general rule, it’s said that the moon “follows” the SoC around, ie: the SoC is the “nose” of the moon.
No pulling the wool over your eyes. Truman, go to Antarctica. Head inland from there. Your creator awaits in an office. He is watching you from his computer. Open the door and you will see the truth.
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