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- April 9, 2020 at 7:34 am#862729ProclaimerParticipant
Believing in a faster sun in Australia alone kills the flat earth. However, there are many other points like this that alone kill the model too. One is enough though.
April 9, 2020 at 7:36 am#862730ProclaimerParticipantAnd both Mike and Dig are too ashamed to even admit it. You never see them say, oh yeah the sun moves quicker in Australia. They know that is complete bollocks so they are trying their best to ignore it. Ignorance is not bliss though, it is dishonest if intentional. A person who seeks truth would be really questioning their belief at this point, but not these guys it seems.
April 9, 2020 at 8:36 am#862732ProclaimerParticipantRocket Lab releases footage of it snagging a dummy rocket at 5000ft
Mike found it too hard to believe that Space X could land a rocket back to the launch pad. I think his mind is scientifically limited.
However, this debate has got me a bit interested in the space industry. Here is real footage of a helicopter catching a dummy rocket.
April 9, 2020 at 3:12 pm#862742Dig4truthParticipantHey t8, where are the pillars of the world that the earth is supposedly set on?
April 9, 2020 at 7:12 pm#862746BereanParticipantIf the earth is flat, how is it that the sun doesn’t shine on the whole earth at the same time, since the sun is much bigger than the earth?
Kindergarten level question?
April 10, 2020 at 12:26 am#862748ProclaimerParticipantHey t8, where are the pillars of the world that the earth is supposedly set on?
Come on Diggy. I want to hear you say the sun travels faster across the Australian sky than the sky in the US.
Then I will answer your question. Let’s not leave behind loose ends.
April 10, 2020 at 12:51 am#862750Ed JParticipantAre you saying that a longer than 12 hour cycle is required?
Hi Digger,
During the Summer months it is said a longer than 12 hour cycle occurs
the Southern Hemisphere as well as in the Northern HemisphereApril 10, 2020 at 3:06 am#862751Dig4truthParticipantBerean: If the earth is flat, how is it that the sun doesn’t shine on the whole earth at the same time, since the sun is much bigger than the earth?
It is believed to be much smaller and closer than the standard model suggests.
Here’s a video that has a brief mention of this phenomenon:
April 10, 2020 at 3:09 am#862752Dig4truthParticipantEd: During the Summer months it is said a longer than 12 hour cycle occurs the Southern Hemisphere as well as in the Northern Hemisphere.
If I’m not mistaken you are suggesting that the sun moves at different speeds or a different course during certain times of the year. Is this the case?
April 10, 2020 at 5:02 am#862755Ed JParticipantEd: During the Summer months it is said a longer than 12 hour cycle occurs in the Southern Hemisphere as well as in the Northern Hemisphere.
If I’m not mistaken you are suggesting that the sun moves at different speeds or a different course during certain times of the year. Is this the case?
Hi Digger,
No, not at all. What I’m suggesting is that the flat-earth video
does not allow for a longer that 12 hour sun-cycle in the south.Yet a longer than 12 hour sun-cycle in the south does occur during the North’s winter months.
Unless you can account for this, the flat earth model that you are pushing is all washed up.
And NASA being fake does nothing to promote flat-earth. So why even bring up NASA?____________
God bless
Ed JApril 10, 2020 at 8:50 am#862760BereanParticipantBy the way, Dig
Thank you for your response.
It’s not easy to really grasp
what’s said in the video
April 11, 2020 at 12:56 am#862791Dig4truthParticipantEd: “Yet a longer than 12 hour sun-cycle in the south does occur during the North’s winter months”.
I’m trying to wrap my mind around this so please bear with me. This seems to require either an altered time frame or an altered path of the sun. I understand that the “tilt” of the earth is supposed to make this difference but that seems unlikely to me.
In the following short video there is a few seconds at the beginning that I get a good laugh from. It illustrates the “tilt” question in a creative way. The rest of the video points out some other very interesting facts that must be taken into account when we discuss the sun and it’s relation to earth. Enjoy!
April 11, 2020 at 8:55 am#862800ProclaimerParticipantFlat Earth strategy
How to prove the Flat Earth. Disprove the globe.
Unfortunately, this strategy just shows a lack of understanding of the heliocentric model and globe earth.
People who can’t sing shouldn’t enter X-factor and think they can win. People who can’t play sport shouldn’t expect to be drafted in the NFL. Likewise, people who are scientifically challenged shouldn’t believe that they are an authority on science and the universe.
God created all of us with gifts. Know your gift and reason for being here and do wonders and gain respect. Ignore that and do something you are not good at and believe you are great, then people will see clearly that you are deluded. Just as the audience can see a bad singer in an X-factor audition and laugh it just shows how delusion works because the person in question cannot see the delusion themselves. It’s like a man who looks in the mirror. He sees something different to what others see.
Dig, pray and ask God what he has for you and walk in it.
April 11, 2020 at 9:22 am#862801ProclaimerParticipantDistance to the sun vs common sense (video) debunked
Diggy, have you ever used a magnifying glass to start a fire? You focus the suns rays to a point and boom, ignition. Put the magnifying glass further away spreading the light out and it won’t get hot enough. In fact there is a huge difference as you can experience hot to luke warm. It’s easy to understand. If you have an area of heat and you aim it at a smaller area vs a bigger area, it will be warmer. Common sense.
Any other points that need debunking Dig?
April 11, 2020 at 9:27 am#862802ProclaimerParticipantAre you still too ashamed to admit you believe the sun moves faster in Australia than the USA?
April 12, 2020 at 7:42 am#862830Ed JParticipantHi Digger,
No, not at all. What I’m suggesting is that the flat-earth video
does not allow for a longer that 12 hour sun-cycle in the south.Yet a longer than 12 hour sun-cycle in the south does occur during the North’s winter months.
Unless you can account for this, the flat earth model that you are pushing is all washed up.
And NASA being fake does nothing to promote flat-earth. So why even bring up NASA?____________
God bless
Ed JT8, is my question really that hard to understand ?
April 12, 2020 at 10:31 am#862838ProclaimerParticipantNot hard to understand Ed J
Two options.
- Digger ignores questions that exposes the flat earth lie and will post up an unrelated video in the hope you take the bait and argue about that instead;
- He doesn’t understand and won’t admit it, thus proving he is not worthy to be discussing science and the structures of God’s creation.
Either way for me, this shows a lack of honesty which is troubling for him.
April 12, 2020 at 2:38 pm#862845Dig4truthParticipantEd: “No, not at all. What I’m suggesting is that the flat-earth video does not allow for a longer that 12 hour sun-cycle in the south. Yet a longer than 12 hour sun-cycle in the south does occur during the North’s winter months. Unless you can account for this, the flat earth model that you are pushing is all washed up. And NASA being fake does nothing to promote flat-earth. So why even bring up NASA”
My question to you is how do you account for this longer than 12 hour cycle? Your answer might help me have a more accurate answer.
Secondly, most “official” data we receive is from a NASA group or another military group. If any of these can be found to be faking the actual data then we can surmise that we need to do our own research. Which, by the way, many FE people are doing.
April 12, 2020 at 2:43 pm#862846Dig4truthParticipantEd, I could ask you another question also; which would make a more significant difference in the weather, a small degree of tilt or 3,500,000 miles of distance from the sun? An honest answer would be appreciated.
April 12, 2020 at 2:55 pm#862847Dig4truthParticipantAnd I want us to be honest here, why would NASA and other scientific organizations use a non-rotating flat earth for their calculations? These are serious questions that deserve a response. If I’m saying we should look at things in a non-rotating flat earth sense and NASA et al is saying the same thing then why are you or anyone else directing your criticism to me and not to NASA?
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