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- June 16, 2019 at 1:11 am#846192Dig4truthParticipant
First attempt to debunk this fact and then we will see if you can salvage the globe.
The mountain, according to globe earth math, should be hidden by around 4,000 ft! This is not a little difference, this is not something that you can dismiss. You can either attempt to disprove it, accept it, or keep on making excuses.
Now, what will happen when you cannot debunk this? Will you accept the plane earth? This would make a difference to either one of us so give it your best shot. You only have to explain 4,000 ft. plus the thousands of ft. of the visible mountain which NONE should be visible. In other words, the top of the mountain should not be visible at all and it should be hidden by thousands of feet on top of that!
June 16, 2019 at 9:23 am#846195ProclaimerParticipantIf this is true and the globe earth has no explanation, yes it would be troublesome, that is if no part of a mountain should be visible but in reality a large part of it is.
If it is debunked, will you then admit that photos of mountains you have presented here are troublesome for the flat earth? That is, they do not support the flat earth hypothesis.
June 17, 2019 at 2:00 am#846199Dig4truthParticipantSounds like we are both in that situation. But to answer your question, yes, if there should be some part of the mountain visible and the globe earth math supported it that would be evidence for your position. And the same holds true for my side, if there should be no part visible and on top of that thousands of feet more coverage then that lends much support for my side.
June 18, 2019 at 7:46 am#846215Dig4truthParticipantI’ve already looked at the math, according to the ball earth theory, and it isn’t even close.
June 18, 2019 at 9:20 am#846216ProclaimerParticipantAt this point, I want to know if proven wrong, would that be troublesome for you and your belief? Not saying it would prove the globe earth, but would it make you rethink things somewhat?
But if it is not going to make a blind bit of difference, then I would not be interested in investing my time.
Let me know either way.
June 18, 2019 at 9:24 am#846217ProclaimerParticipantOh sorry, you gave already answered me. Missed your previous post. Great, I will look into it. And a reminder, I am not here to prove the globe earth, but to get to the truth. Of course I believe the earth is globe, has very good evidence for that, and the flat earth doesn’t have anything substantial to support it. So this mountain pic could help sway the argument and I’m up for the challenge.
Where is the pic, video, analysis of this mountain?
June 18, 2019 at 12:36 pm#846219Dig4truthParticipantIt’s the same video we have been discussing. It starts at the 6 1/2 minute mark and goes to about the 7 1/2 minute mark. Not very long but packed with power.
June 19, 2019 at 7:44 pm#846252ProclaimerParticipantIt’s already debunked Dig
June 19, 2019 at 7:56 pm#846253ProclaimerParticipantWatch this video Dig
This video debunks the photo as pointing to a flat earth and the narrator is also very respectful.
June 19, 2019 at 11:08 pm#846255Dig4truthParticipantT8, did you do the math? It doesn’t work. Use your ball earth calculator and see for yourself. Using software that is obviously designed to try to debunk plane earth theory is not going to cut it. Here is a link to the earth curve calculator:
https://dizzib.github.io/earth/curve-calc/?d0=170&h0=300&unit=imperial
Why not do your own research and see? If this software contradicts the math what does that tell you about this software?
June 19, 2019 at 11:23 pm#846256Dig4truthParticipantOh and by the way, I gave it an elevation of 300 ft above sea level but in fact it is only 154 ft! So half the observer height.
That brings it to 15,974 ft of hidden height! That’s over 15,000 feet of hidden height on a globe earth according to the globe earth math!
Apparently the software this guy used does not use the standard 8” per mile squared. And if not, what equation does it use? Unless you can tell me that there is no way to check his work and it could all be a lie.
June 23, 2019 at 10:53 pm#846321ProclaimerParticipantGlobebusters Busted
June 26, 2019 at 10:56 pm#846378ProclaimerParticipantThe best explanation for people believing in a flat earth is they want to live in a science fiction movie with a huge conspiracy where they are a hero who combats evil forces that try to keep them deluded.
The reality is not exactly like this. Yes there is evil and yes there is deception in the world. But the Flat Earth conspiracy only serves to detract from the real battle which is the good fight. People who end up fighting this fake battle will find out one day that they wasted a good part of their life on it.
If you are a flat earthwe and you are reading this, it is not too late for you. Please fight the good fight instead. If you do not know what I am talking about, please follow the link I have placed below this video.
June 28, 2019 at 7:12 am#846386Dig4truthParticipantSo t8, you managed to dodge all my questions and challenges but found some videos. Great.
July 4, 2019 at 9:20 pm#846447ProclaimerParticipantDistance to mountain and height of viewer
Distance in Miles: 120
Viewer height in Feet: 150No refraction calculation
San Jacinto Peak above sea level: 10,834 feet
Geometric Hidden: 1.39 miles (7350.83 feet)
Visible amount: 3483.17 feet.Standard” refraction adjustment
San Jacinto Peak above sea level: 10,834 ft
Refracted Hidden: 1.17 miles (6157.62 feet)
Visible amount: 4,676 feet.Visible range
Roughly speaking, the visible amount could vary between 3500 and 4500 feet. Maybe a bit less or a bit more.
Conclusion
In the San Jacinto IR shot, One Horse Ridge is just below what he can see, as demonstrated with the above image with the IR shot superimposed over the relevant part of the whole mountain. One Horse Ridge is 3,872 feet below the peak of San Jacinto showing that what is visible of San Jacinto in the IR shot is actually within the 3000 or 4000 feet range. This is exactly what we would expect on a sphere according to the calculations above which are also linked below if you want to check. It is way more accurate than what the Flat Earth would show which is the whole mountain with the bottom part obscured by closer peaks.
https://www.metabunk.org/curve/?d=120&h=150&r=3959&u=i&a=n&fd=60&fp=3264
July 5, 2019 at 12:01 am#846448ProclaimerParticipantNow that this is debunked, what is left that makes you believe in a Flat Earth?
July 5, 2019 at 9:04 am#846458Dig4truthParticipantThe distance was 170 miles. No what you got?
July 5, 2019 at 12:46 pm#846460ProclaimerParticipantDig, here is a screen-grab of your post with the video in question. It states 120 miles as you can see.
July 5, 2019 at 11:01 pm#846469Dig4truthParticipantListen to the video and at the 7 minute mark he says “over a 170 miles away”.
July 5, 2019 at 11:05 pm#846470Dig4truthParticipantWhat math did he use? Was it the 8” per miles squared? If not, then what? You can’t just make stuff up you must back it up!
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