- This topic is empty.
- Posts
Quote (2besee @ Dec. 11 2012,03:53) Gene, they don't want to say that God was in the world. They don't want to believe in an eternal spirit which is God. They want to say that the word was a god. They want to make God two instead of one!
2BBgod was never eternal ,if so he would have been created and have a start ,and scriptures says that God almighty was and will be ,no end no beginning ,
on the other end Christ his created the very first of all creation ,
but if you do not believe this then you can invent a story that God can be seen to men and live;or that anyone has seen the father ;and also that God regret to have created men due to the wickedness of men ,he was ready to destryed it ,but found one familly worth to be saved ;why did God not came himself and save that familly
or kill them all and resurrect that familly wen it was over and of cause the ones that believe that God descend from heaven to save what he previously wanted to destroy ,have no clue how he could do it ,they must think that the one that created the universe his smaller than his own creation ,how false can anyone get unreal
Hi Terraricca,
I don't know why I posted in this thread.
I have no interest anymore of being in the middle of these foolish discussions over doctrine.
This is (one of) the reasons that people will face eternal death and be thrown away from the building. (BE WARNED) because of foolish divisions and debates over doctrines and foolish doctrines themselves.
There is only one God. We are to believe in him and we are to serve him and love him with all of our heart, as the commandment says.
The Holy Spirit came here and was in the annointed man Jesus. He was given the name Jesus and it is in his (Jesus') name that we are saved.
Simple as that.
There are not two Gods nor are there three Gods making up one God. Nor are there little god and big gods.
There is only one God and that one God has a Son.
Everythign is through the eternal Holy Spirit of God.God bless.
2bbee
Quote The Holy Spirit came here and was in the annointed man Jesus. He was given the name Jesus and it is in his (Jesus') name that we are saved. Simple as that.
first you declaration that the holy spirit came here ” it is true that God almighty works through his holy spirit ,but his hily spirit has been in creation sins the beginning even before Christ his son was created ,to show you this ;PS 51:11 Do not cast me away from Your presence
And do not take Your Holy Spirit from me.was that not David talking
yes it was ;so was it Christ no .ISA 63:11 Then His people remembered the days of old, of Moses.
Where is He who brought them up out of the sea with the shepherds of His flock?
Where is He who put His Holy Spirit in the midst of them,MT 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: when His mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child by the Holy Spirit.
look at what scriptures are saying Mary was found to be with child BY (not from)the holy spirit ,
MT 12:32 “ Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
these words of Christ are the knive that cuts all discusions on this dilemma ; IF CHRIST WAS THE HOLY SPIRIT THEN HE WOULD NOT HAVE SAID THAT THE ONE THAT SPEAKS AGAINST HIM WOULD BE FORGIVEN ,
BUT NOT SO OF THE HOLY SPIRIT ,SO THE HOLY SPIRIT MUST BE SOME THING GREATHER THAN EVEN THE SON OF GOD AND SO WOULD COME FROM GOD HIMSELF ,AND THAT HIS THE TRUTH OF GOD.Jn 1:33 I would not have known him, except that the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, ‘The man on whom you see the Spirit come down and remain is he who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.’
THEIR IS NO SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS THAT CHRIST WAS FULL OF THE HOLY SPIRIT ;
YOU CAN WALK IN THE HOLY SPIRIT ,AND BY THE HOLY SPIRIT ,YOU CAN ALSO RESIT THE HOLY SPIRIT ,BUT NO ONE CAN BE FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT ;i KNOW ACT 4;8 BUT THEN WHAT IT MEANS
HOW COULD A MEN RECIEVE GOD HIMSELF THIS CAN NOT BE THE POWER OF THAT SPIRIT HOLDS THE UNIVERSES SO THEIR IS AN EXPLANATION NEEDED ,Quote There are not two Gods nor are there three Gods making up one God. Nor are there little god and big gods. YOU ARE WRONG THEIR ARE MANY GODS BUT ONLY ONE ALMIGHTY ONE ;ANY ONE LIKE MOSES THAT TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE ABOUT GODS WORD UPON GODS REQUEST HIS A GOD JUST LIKE MOSES WAS ,THE GREATEST OF THEM ALL HIS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD ,BUT HE IS NOT GOD THE FATHER BECAUSE HE IS HIS SON ,BUT A GOD TO US ALL JUST LIKE MOSES WAS;
Quote (2besee @ Dec. 11 2012,06:21) Hi Terraricca, I don't know why I posted in this thread.
I have no interest anymore of being in the middle of these foolish discussions over doctrine.
This is (one of) the reasons that people will face eternal death and be thrown away from the building. (BE WARNED) because of foolish divisions and debates over doctrines and foolish doctrines themselves.
There is only one God. We are to believe in him and we are to serve him and love him with all of our heart, as the commandment says.
The Holy Spirit came here and was in the annointed man Jesus. He was given the name Jesus and it is in his (Jesus') name that we are saved.
Simple as that.
There are not two Gods nor are there three Gods making up one God. Nor are there little god and big gods.
There is only one God and that one God has a Son.
Everythign is through the eternal Holy Spirit of God.God bless.
2besee,Proverbs 27:17
King James Version (KJV)17 Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.
Quote (2besee @ Dec. 11 2012,03:56) Jesus was a man just like us. The only difference is that he was the only one who overcome. Peace.
2BBEQuote Jesus was a man just like us. The only difference is that he was the only one who overcome. WAS HE LIKE US
WELL LET SEE ; HIS YOUR FATHER GOD ALMIGHTY NO,
DID CHRIST EXISTED PRIOR OF HIS COMING IN THE FLESH YES,WAS CHRIST BORN WITH THE SIN OF ADAM
NODID GOD HIS FATHER CONFIRMED THAT HE WAS HIS SON
YES NOW IN WITCH OF THOSE STATEMENT DO YOU KNOW ANYONE ELSE EVER BORN
OR THAT CAN SAY WHAT IS SAID ABOUT CHRIST
THERE IS NOT ONE SINGLE HUMAN THAT CAN STAND UP AND SAY I AM LIKE CHRIST ,HE WOULD BE A LIAR,
Quote (2besee @ Dec. 11 2012,03:55) Or they want to make the flesh of Jesus a god rather than a man.
2BBBEING A GOD ONLY MEANS A POSITION ,BECAUSE THEIR HIS ONLY ONE ALMIGHTY GOD ,THAT HIS THE GOD OF GODS ,
Quote (2besee @ Dec. 11 2012,03:57) But as Gene says, God was truly him and speaking through him because of his sinlessness.
2BBQuote God was truly him WHAT THAT MEAN
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 11 2012,14:42) 2besee, Proverbs 27:17
King James Version (KJV)17 Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.
Hi friend, Kerwin.What do you believe regarding all of this. (I mean God, Holy Spirit, Son of God).
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 11 2012,14:53) Quote (2besee @ Dec. 11 2012,03:57) But as Gene says, God was truly him and speaking through him because of his sinlessness.
2BBQuote God was truly him WHAT THAT MEAN
Terraricca, that was a typo (error in typing).It was supposed to say:
'As Gene says, God was truly IN him……'
Quote (2besee @ Dec. 11 2012,08:31) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 11 2012,14:53) Quote (2besee @ Dec. 11 2012,03:57) But as Gene says, God was truly him and speaking through him because of his sinlessness.
2BBQuote God was truly him WHAT THAT MEAN
Terraricca, that was a typo (error in typing).It was supposed to say:
'As Gene says, God was truly IN him……'
2BBno problemo accepted all is good
Hi T, i was just thinking – but i don't have much time sorry to reply to your posts at the moment.
There is one thing that we should all be worried about:
'Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him;
but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is to come.'Scripture says, (READ CAREFULLY):
'God has revealed to us through the SPIRIT — For THE SPIRIT searches everything — even the depths of God.
For what person knows a man's thoughts, except the spirit of the man which is in him?
So also no one comprehends the THOUGHTS of God, except the SPIRIT OF GOD.Jesus said:
“No one knows the SON EXCEPT THE FATHER — and NO ONE KNOWS THE FATHER EXCEPT THE SON — and any one to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.”
This is the one God – the mind and the spirit – the Father and the Son.
Not the Son Jesus (begotten from the dead) but the eternal Son (the eternal Spirit).Something for you to think about,
later.
2bbe
Quote Scripture says, (READ CAREFULLY): 'God has revealed to us through the SPIRIT — For THE SPIRIT searches everything — even the depths of God.
For what person knows a man's thoughts, except the spirit of the man which is in him?
So also no one comprehends the THOUGHTS of God, except the SPIRIT OF GOD.look at the first words ;God has revealed to us through the SPIRIT; do you understand this
the, US, mean true believers ,if you understand tell me ,why
Quote No one knows the SON EXCEPT THE FATHER — and NO ONE KNOWS THE FATHER EXCEPT THE SON — and any one to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.” do you understand those words
they are very simple no mystery here ,2bbe
Quote This is the one God – the mind and the spirit – the Father and the Son.
Not the Son Jesus (begotten from the dead) but the eternal Son (the eternal Spirit).this i do not understand ,I do not know what you want me to see or understand so help me
Quote (2besee @ Dec. 11 2012,08:20) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 11 2012,14:42) 2besee, Proverbs 27:17
King James Version (KJV)17 Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.
Hi friend, Kerwin.What do you believe regarding all of this. (I mean God, Holy Spirit, Son of God).
2besee,Something simular to you from what it sounds.
* Jesus has continuously been a human being since the day he was conceived in Mary.
* Jesus was tempted by evil even as common to humanity, but chose to live by the Spirit and so not sin.
* Jehovah is God and so he cannot be tempted by evil as that is not part of who he is.
* The Holy Spirit is his spirit even as a human being has a Spirit. It is also called the Son, Spirit of the Son, and other names.As for being the Son of God, it has multiple meanings.
1) Jesus is the archetype of Jehovah's children; as the title Son of man is used to reveal he is the archtype of humanity.
2) Jesus is the “natural” child of Jehovah through beeing born of the Spirit even as those that believe are the “adopted” children of Jehovah through rebirth of the Spirit.
3) Jesus is the Heir of the Spirit of the Son; even the Holy Spirit.I use other people to test my beliefs even as God tests our hearts by adversity.
T,
Quote THERE IS NOT ONE SINGLE HUMAN THAT CAN STAND UP AND SAY I AM LIKE CHRIST ,HE WOULD BE A LIAR, Those humans that are made perfect in Christ are like Christ.
Colossians 1:28
King James Version (KJV)28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 11 2012,19:25) Quote (2besee @ Dec. 11 2012,08:20) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 11 2012,14:42) 2besee, Proverbs 27:17
King James Version (KJV)17 Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.
Hi friend, Kerwin.What do you believe regarding all of this. (I mean God, Holy Spirit, Son of God).
2besee,Something simular to you from what it sounds.
* Jesus has continuously been a human being since the day he was conceived in Mary.
* Jesus was tempted by evil even as common to humanity, but chose to live by the Spirit and so not sin.
* Jehovah is God and so he cannot be tempted by evil as that is not part of who he is.
* The Holy Spirit is his spirit even as a human being has a Spirit. It is also called the Son, Spirit of the Son, and other names.As for being the Son of God, it has multiple meanings.
1) Jesus is the archetype of Jehovah's children; as the title Son of man is used to reveal he is the archtype of humanity.
2) Jesus is the “natural” child of Jehovah through beeing born of the Spirit even as those that believe are the “adopted” children of Jehovah through rebirth of the Spirit.
3) Jesus is the Heir of the Spirit of the Son; even the Holy Spirit.I use other people to test my beliefs even as God tests our hearts by adversity.
Amen Kerwin! We are in agreement. I have just come to see this over the past few weeks. It all started with something which an elderly relative told me, something about the 'the eternal spirit' which really got me thinking and praying and seeking and AMEN!Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 11 2012,12:34) T, Quote THERE IS NOT ONE SINGLE HUMAN THAT CAN STAND UP AND SAY I AM LIKE CHRIST ,HE WOULD BE A LIAR, Those humans that are made perfect in Christ are like Christ.
Colossians 1:28
King James Version (KJV)28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
KWhy are you twisting the scriptures ,It does not say LIKE Christ but IN. Christ ,this mean that whatever is missing Christ compansate for it,
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
