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Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 12 2012,09:12) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 12 2012,16:12)
The Word of the oath, which was since the law,
maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore. (Hebrews 7:28)
EDJ……….Well put brother, For indeed the Spirit of God and his words are one and the same.
Gene,I would like to make two points:
1. Consider the context of Hebrews 7:28, which Ed always quotes as “support” for his way of thinking.
Hebrews 7
20 Others became priests without any oath, 21 but he became a priest with an oath when God said to him:“The Lord has sworn
and will not change his mind:
‘You are a priest forever.’”22 Because of this oath, Jesus has become the guarantee of a better covenant.
Do you understand so far that Jesus is the only one that was made priest by the oath (or “word”) of God? Do you understand that Paul is talking about Jesus being made A PRIEST, and not about Jesus being MADE, or CREATED?
28 For the law appoints as high priests men who are weak; but the oath, which came after the law, appointed the Son, who has been made perfect forever.
Do you understand that Paul is STILL talking about that same oath (or “word”) from God that appointed (or “made”) Jesus our Priest? Do you understand that Paul is NOT talking about Jesus being CREATED in this passage?
If you are able to understand these things, then you are also able to understand that Ed clips this teaching down to a few words, using only a snippet of the teaching – OUT OF CONTEXT – to make his “point”.
The passage is NOT about some “word” MAKING Jesus. It is about Jesus being APPOINTED as Priest by a sworn OATH from God.
2. I will offer you the same “test” I offered to 2B. If you think the Holy Spirit OF God actually IS God, then replace the words “Holy Spirit” with the word “God” in ANY scripture you choose.
Here's one to get you started:
Acts 2:33
Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear.YOUR version would go like this: …….he has received from the Father the promised God and has poured out what you now see and hear.
Did Jesus really receive the promised “God” from the Father?
Try that test with any scripture, Gene. Also, try the same test replacing “word of God” with the word “God”.
Let me know what you find out.
Mike……….All that dancing around, the Fact is, GOD and His words are one and the Same thing. Just as you and your word is the same thing. Now prove to us you and your words are not the same and you may have a point. Fact is it is you and your Preexistence theology that twists the simple word of God to say what in fact it is not saying at all. And Now you say try replacing the Word of GOd with God like i do not under the difference, a Word is the expression of the Mind of GOD or Man and that expression is the exact same as the person speaking those words. God and His words are one and the same thing no matter how you try to twist that up Mike.
You people add or change words to texts like John 1:1 not even understanding that if John meant to say Jesus he would have written Jesus there. And Like T8 who takes the word “WITH” and replaces it with “ALONGSIDE” and where it say “He Existed with the Nature of God” as meaning before he was Born on this earth is what Paul was referencing when in fact Paul was talking about his earthely existence. And on and on it goes MIke.
You deny God's own very words , when he said there was no other God besides him, he even said he looked and could find NONE, not even one, but you counterdict him and say there are other many God's other then him and him alone. You twist Pauls word to try to support you false assumptons, where he said though they are “CALLED GODS MANY” as mean there really are other GODS or gods many. So while you are rereading the bible for the “FITH” time make sure you read clearly what God himself Said in Isaiah about other GOD's and then try to make the other scriptures match what he said instead of going off on a tangent and resist his very own words and Jesus' word also. who said clearly “only” “true” God , so common sense would tell anyone the words “only” and “true” woud mean all othere are not “true” Gods so all other so-called God are false Gods, just common sense would tell you that MIke, just pure common sense alone should convey that to you.
peace and love to you and yours…………………………………..gene
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 13 2012,10:38) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 12 2012,08:50) Mike………..Look up the meaning of (became) and you will find it means “came to be”………………….
Yes Gene,I agree that “became” can also be worded “came to be”.
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 12 2012,08:50) …….now what came to be in the flesh man Jesus at the Jordan river?
Oops, there it goes again……… that pesky little word “IN”, that you guys must ADD into John 1:14 to make the scriptures come out your own way.Do you see it, Gene? “Became” can be worded “came to be” – but it CAN'T be worded “came to be IN“.
“Came to be IN” does NOT mean the same thing as “became”, or “came to be”.
In fact, it means a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT thing. So by adding that little word into 1:14, you are effectively changing the meaning of John's words – not just a little bit, but giving them a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT meaning.
Try reading “The Word became flesh” – WITHOUT adding your own word “IN”. Then think real hard about what John could have possibly meant by those words. Then add to those thoughts the fact that this particular Word, when he did become flesh, dwelt on earth with the glory of Jesus.
After that, it shouldn't be that hard.
Peace to you and yours, Gene.
Mike, Mike, Mike, ……….So have you ever seen a WORD Become FLESH is that possible are your words Flesh. God Jesus said over and over and over and over was “IN”
him , Jesus also said GOD was Spirit Now a Spirit is NOT Flesh of any kind, it is what is IN flesh.So now the only way the Word which is Spirit according to Jesus who said “the Words in am speaking to you “ARE SPIRIT” a Spiirt can only exist in a flesh body just as all Spirit can exist “IN” bodies.. In this way God who is Spirit, truly existed “IN” Jesus just as Jesus said over and over many times, The Father who is spirit was in Jesus and Spoke through HIM , his words, In that way the Word who is GOD came to be (IN) Flesh , the Flesh man Jesus and can be in us also. MIke you have got to let go of all those years of false teachings brother.
peace and love to you and yours……………………………….gene
gene
in the flesh;
RO 2:28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh.
RO 7:5 For while we were in the flesh, the sinful passions, which were aroused by the Law, were at work in the members of our body to bear fruit for death.
RO 8:3 For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh,
RO 8:8 and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
RO 8:9 However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.
2CO 10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh,
2CO 12:7 Because of the surpassing greatness of the revelations, for this reason, to keep me from exalting myself, there was given me a thorn in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to torment me—to keep me from exalting myself!
GAL 2:20 “I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me.
GAL 6:12 Those who desire to make a good showing in the flesh try to compel you to be circumcised, simply so that they will not be persecuted for the cross of Christ.
EPH 2:11 Therefore remember that formerly you, the Gentiles in the flesh, who are called “ Uncircumcision” by the so-called “ Circumcision,” which is performed in the flesh by human hands—
Phil 1:22 But if I am to live on in the flesh, this will mean fruitful labor for me; and I do not know which to choose.
Phil 1:24 yet to remain on in the flesh is more necessary for your sake.
Phil 3:3 for we are the true circumcision, who worship in the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh,
Phil 3:4 although I myself might have confidence even in the flesh. If anyone else has a mind to put confidence in the flesh, I far more:
1TI 3:16 By common confession, great is the mystery of godliness:
He who was revealed in the flesh,
Was vindicated in the Spirit,
Seen by angels,
Proclaimed among the nations,
Believed on in the world,
Taken up in glory.PHM 1:16 no longer as a slave, but more than a slave, a beloved brother, especially to me, but how much more to you, both in the flesh and in the Lord.
1PE 3:18 For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit;
1PE 4:1 Therefore, since Christ has suffered in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same purpose, because he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin,
1PE 4:2 so as to live the rest of the time in the flesh no longer for the lusts of men, but for the will of God.
1PE 4:6 For the gospel has for this purpose been preached even to those who are dead, that though they are judged in the flesh as men, they may live in the spirit according to the will of God.
1JN 4:2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God;
2JN 1:7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.in the spirit;
RO 8:9 However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.
the spirit in us ,is not a given but an acquired gift
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2012,08:30) the Fact is, GOD and His words are one and the Same thing.
Did you try my test, Gene?Here's one for you:
Act 12:24
But the word of God kept on increasing and multiplying.YOUR VERSION would go like this: God kept on increasing and multiplying.
Does that work for you, Gene? Is the word of God REALLY God Himself? Are you now beginning to understand the difference?
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2012,08:30) Fact is it is you and your Preexistence theology that twists the simple word of God to say what in fact it is not saying at all.
Not at all, Gene. In fact, why don't you actually ADDRESS the fact that you have to ADD the word “in” to John 1:14 for your doctrine to be fulfilled? Why do you avoid that point? Please address it for me. Tell us WHY you think it's okay for you to go around ADDING your own words to THE WORD OF GOD. (Btw, you can't swap those last capped words I just wrote with “God” either – because “the word of God” is NOT “God Himself”.)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2012,08:30) You people add or change words to texts like John 1:1 not even understanding that if John meant to say Jesus he would have written Jesus there.
Why didn't John say “Jesus” in Revelation 19:13, Gene? He surely MEANT Jesus, right?Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2012,08:30) And Like T8 who takes the word “WITH” and replaces it with “ALONGSIDE”……
Gene, the Greek word “para” CAN be translated as “with”, OR as “alongside”. Do you even read my posts to you? Because I just went through that for you a couple of days ago.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2012,08:30) You deny God's own very words , when he said there was no other God besides him,
Do you mean I deny God's words? Or did you mean I deny God Himself? (They mean the same thing, right?
)Gene, you are the one who is not understanding EMPHATICAL statements made in the Bible. In 1 Cor 8:6, Paul explicitely tells us that our ONE Lord is Jesus Christ. Do you suppose Paul means that our heavenly Father is NOT our Lord? And what does it mean when, in Eph 6, Paul tells us to obey our “earthly lords” as we would obey Christ?
How can Jehovah and earthly masters also be “lords” when Paul said we have but ONE lord?
It is because Paul was speaking EMPHATICALLY, Gene. Do you understand the concept? Or would you like some more help and examples?
Similarly, when Jehovah says there is no god besides Him, He is also speaking EMPHATICALLY – placing Himself ABOVE all of the other gods. Gene, I don't know how many times I can say this to you, but JEHOVAH COULD NOT POSSIBLY BE THE GOD OF GODS UNLESS THERE EXISTED OTHER GODS FOR HIM TO BE THE GOD OF.
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2012,08:30) You twist Pauls word to try to support you false assumptons, where he said though they are “CALLED GODS MANY” as mean there really are other GODS or gods many.
Paul said some of these gods were in heaven, Gene. Can you give me an example of one of these gods in heaven, who is not Jehovah? Who was Paul talking about? Can you name one of these gods in heaven, that Jehovah is the God OF?Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2012,09:02) Mike, Mike, Mike, ……….So have you ever seen a WORD Become FLESH is that possible are your words Flesh
I've never actually seen God or Jesus either. Should we just assume that they don't exist because we haven't personally seen them?Besides, Jesus is called “the Word of God” because he is God's main spokesman. (Heb 1:2) So if it helps you, read 1:1 like this: In the beginning was God's spokesman, and this spokesman was with God, and this spokesman was himself a god (powerful spirit being).
Read 1:14 like this: And this spokesman became flesh, dwelled among us, and had the glory of Jesus (because he WAS Jesus).
Gene, a spoken word from God did not become flesh. But neither did God Himself become flesh. (There goes your theory that God's word is God Himself, right? Because the word of God DID become flesh, and we all know that God did NOT become flesh. Therefore, the word of God is NOT God Himself.)
Just try the tests, Gene. Replace “Holy Spirit” with the words “God Himself” and see how it works for you. Replace “word of God” with the words “God Himself” and see how it works for you.
Also, don't forget to tell us all WHY you think you're entitled to ADD your own words into the God-inspired scriptures.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 14 2012,12:40) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2012,09:02) Mike, Mike, Mike, ……….So have you ever seen a WORD Become FLESH is that possible are your words Flesh
I've never actually seen God or Jesus either. Should we just assume that they don't exist because we haven't personally seen them?Besides, Jesus is called “the Word of God” because he is God's main spokesman. (Heb 1:2) So if it helps you, read 1:1 like this: In the beginning was God's spokesman, and this spokesman was with God, and this spokesman was himself a god (powerful spirit being).
Read 1:14 like this: And this spokesman became flesh, dwelled among us, and had the glory of Jesus (because he WAS Jesus).
Gene, a spoken word from God did not become flesh. But neither did God Himself become flesh. (There goes your theory that God's word is God Himself, right? Because the word of God DID become flesh, and we all know that God did NOT become flesh. Therefore, the word of God is NOT God Himself.)
Just try the tests, Gene. Replace “Holy Spirit” with the words “God Himself” and see how it works for you. Replace “word of God” with the words “God Himself” and see how it works for you.
Also, don't forget to tell us all WHY you think you're entitled to ADD your own words into the God-inspired scriptures.
Mike………..My how you go through every twist and turn to hold on the false teachings you Preexistences believe in.Lets just take the word “WORD” maybe this will help you understand.
A word is What?, is it not a sound that expresses intellect? Can you at least agree with that?
Now if you can, then can you understand the words your speaking “expresses” your understand and they comes from you very own Spirit intellect that abides “IN” you, “unless you are quoting someone else words and in that case you are expressing someones else's Spirit or intellect. AS JESUS DID , remember
“the “words' I (Jesus) am speaking unto you are “NOT” MY WORDS”. but the “word” of him that sent me.”If you can understand this then you can understand a Word is not a Physical thing at all and could never actually be FLESH . Words are from the Spirit or Spirits that exists IN Flesh The only way the scripture saying, that the Spirit became Flesh is to understand it is, the word “Became means to “to come to be “IN” flesh. God WHO is Spirit was Indeed (IN) the Flesh Man Jesus Speaking to us “HIS” very own words “Through” the Flesh man Jesus. This is easy to understand Mike.
Timothy was absolute right when said My Lord (Jesus Christ) “and” My God. BotH were present in the Flesh Body of Jesus, who God considered a Temple and Said through Jesus' Mouth, destory this “temple” and in three days I (God) shall raise it up.
Mike you are stopping yourself from coming to a true understanding, let go of all those Past Trinitarians and Preexistences Doctrines . They sever no good purposes, but only a Work of Separating Us from our exact identification With Jesus our Brother and Lord.
I still believe if you will only think about this you can come to see the truth Brother. IMO
peace and love to you and yours…………………………………..gene
gene
Quote Mike………..My how you go through every twist and turn to hold on the false teachings you Preexistences believe in. so Mike should be true in his believe ,because he does a lot better than you in your lies and false believe ,what you only can repeat but not prove scriptures for it unless you corrupt those scriptures as well ,
you are stuck on changing scriptures to support your dogma ,doctrines ,this means you are killing Gods words and replaced them with your own ,their is only one other being that does that too,he was in the garden of Eden
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 14 2012,09:17) Mike………..My how you go through every twist and turn to hold on the false teachings you Preexistences believe in.
Gene, did you do the test?Acts 12:24
But the word of God kept on increasing and multiplying.Is “the word OF God” actually God Himself, Gene? Does the scripture above teach us that God kept increasing and multiplying? YES or NO?
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 14 2012,09:17) ………a Word is not a Physical thing at all and could never actually be FLESH.
The following is from James Bruce, in his book Travels to Discover the Source of the Nile in 1768:There is an officer, named Kal Hatzè, who stands always upon steps at the side of the lattice-window, where there is a hole covered in the inside with a curtain of green taffeta; behind this curtain the king sits, and through this hole he sends what he has to say to the Board………
Formerly, [the king's] face was never seen, nor any part of him, excepting sometimes his foot. He sits in a kind of balcony, with lattice windows and curtains before him. Even yet he covers his face on audiences or public occasions, and when in judgment. On cases of treason, he sits within his balcony, and speaks through a hole in the side of it, to an officer called Kal Hatzè, “the voice or word of the king,” by whom he sends his questions, or any thing else that occurs, to the judges, who are seated at the council-table.
After making partial quotations from the above book by James Bruce, Calmet’s Dictionary of The Holy Bible goes on to say:
“On the use of this officer, Mr. Bruce gives several striking instances: in particular, one on the trial of a rebel, when the king, by his Kal Hatzè, asked a question, by which his guilt was effectually demonstrated. It appears, then, that the king of Abyssinia makes inquiry, gives his opinion, and declares his will by a deputy, a go-between, a middle-man, called ‘his WORD.’
Gene, you have to start using your common sense. Jehovah told Moses that Aaron would be a mouth to him. (Exodus 4:16)
Do you picture Aaron as a LITERAL, man-sized MOUTH, running along beside Moses? Of course not. So why would you take the word “Word” so LITERALLY in this case?
You say “a Word is not a Physical thing at all”, but in Revelation 19, a “Word” has a head, complete with eyes and mouth, wears a robe, and rides a white horse.
Do you think the rider of that horse is a LITERAL spoken word from someone? Of course not.
Gene, it is clear to all of us here that you simply don't WANT the Word in John 1:1 and 1:14 to be Jesus. But you've got to come up with a better REASON for it not to be Jesus. The reason you're trying to give me now is, quite frankly, lame.
Gene, this particular Word in John 1 became flesh. And when he became flesh, he had the glory of Jesus.
Who or what, in all of creation, would have the glory of God's only begotten Son – besides Jesus himself? (Please ANSWER this question.)
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2012,05:12) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 12 2012,16:12) Quote (Mikel @ Dec. 12 2012,12:06) Oh, and when the Word became flesh, whose glory did he have?
Hi Mike,The same glory(77) that we too will get when “The Word” is birthed in us.
These next few verses should help put the pieces together as I see them.the glory as of the only begotten of the Father (John 1:14) com-
pared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. (Romans 8:18)The Word of the oath, which was since the law,
maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore. (Hebrews 7:28)1Pet.1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of
incorruptible, by “The Word” of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.Of his own will begat he us with “The Word” of truth,
that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. (James 1:18)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ……….Well put brother, For indeed the Spirit of God and his words are one and the same. Jesus said the “words' i am telling you “ARE” Spirit and are LIFE he also said those words weren't his words. Indeed God and his word are one and the same thing they are Spirit Life, that abides “IN” Jesus and can also abide in Us. When that happens we are all united as one< one God in all and through all Just as it says.peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene
We can all agree that truth comes from God.
Yet Jesus said, I am the truth.So maybe he was saying that he was that attribute personified. Why can't the Word of God also be an attribute and a person. Or wisdom for that matter.
We will be given a new name. Names from God's perspective are words or titles that describe who we are. Jesus also changed people's names to reflect that which they would be.
Arguing that Jesus is not the truth because truth comes from God and Jesus is not God would be as erroneous as saying that Jesus was not the Word of God.
And again, if the sword of the Spirit is the Word of God, and the Spirit is also the Word of God, then why do we need the sword again?
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 13 2012,12:38)
Oops, there it goes again……… that pesky little word “IN”, that you guys must ADD into John 1:14 to make the scriptures come out your own way.Yes — as you do when you add that 'pesky little letter' a, believing that the word was a god when the spirit reveals to us that the word was God…
Quote Do you see it, Gene? “Became” can be worded “came to be” – but it CAN'T be worded “came to be IN“. “Came to be IN” does NOT mean the same thing as “became”, or “came to be”.
Words which are spirit cannot become flesh in the way that you imagine. though words can be in flesh. Just as your own words and your own spirit are in flesh.
Anyway, 'becoming flesh' and 'being in flesh' do mean the same thing, do they not?
What is the difference??
Let me hear you say it Mike…. In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, and the Word WAS God…!! Amen?
Quote (2besee @ Dec. 20 2012,22:57) Yes — as you do when you add that 'pesky little letter' a, believing that the word was a god when the spirit reveals to us that the word was God…
Not so fast.John 1:1c does not have a definite article before the word God. While all other instances in John 1:1 do and the Logos does too.
Origen is often quoted by Trinitarians who appeal to his wisdom for other purposes, they tend to avoid this particular quotation for obvious reasons however. Origen wrote in the early 200′s A.D and was well versed in the finer points of Koine Greek.
“We next notice John’s use of the article [“the”] in these sentences. He does not write without care in this respect, nor is he unfamiliar with the niceties of the Greek tongue. In some cases he uses the article, and in some he omits it. He adds the article to the Word, but to the name of theos he adds it sometimes only. He uses the article, when the name of theos refers to the uncreated cause of all things, and omits it when the Word is named theos. Does the same difference which we observe between theos with the article and theos without it prevail also between the Word with it and without it? We must enquire into this. As the theos who is over all is theos with the article not without it, so the Word is the source of that reason (Logos) which dwells in every reasonable creature; the reason which is in each creature is not, like the former called par excellence the Word. Now there are many who are sincerely concerned about religion, and who fall here into great perplexity. They are afraid that they may be proclaiming two theos [gods] and their fear drives them into doctrines which are false and wicked. Either they deny that the Son has a distinct nature of His own besides that of the Father, and make Him whom they call the Son to be theos all but the name, or they deny divinity of the Son, giving Him a separate existence of His own, and making His sphere of essence fall outside that of the Father, so that they are separable from each other. To such persons we have to say that “the theos” on the one hand is Autotheos [God of himself] and so the Saviour says in His prayer to the Father, “That they may know Thee the only true theos [God]; “but that all beyond the theos [God] is made theos by participation in His deity, and is not to be called simply “theos” but rather “the theos “. And thus the first-born of all creation, who is the first to be with the theos , and to attract to Himself deity, is a being of more exalted rank than the other theos [gods] beside Him, of which theos is the theos [God], as it is written, “The theos [God] of theos [gods], the Lord, hath spoken and called the earth.” It was by the offices of the first-born that they became theos [gods], for He drew from the theos [God] in generous measure that they should be made theos [gods], and He communicated it to them according to His own bounty. The true theos [God], then, is “the theos ,” [“the God” as opposed to “god”] and those who are formed after Him are theos [such as the Son of God], images, as it were, of Him the prototype. But the archetypal image, again, of all these images is the word of the theos [God], who was in the beginning, and who by being with the theos [God] is at all times deity, not possessing that of Himself, but by His being with the Father, and not continuing to be theos , if we should think of this, except by remaining always in uninterrupted contemplation of the depths of the Father.”
(Origen’s Commentary on the Gospel of John, Book II, 2)This makes more sense to me…
'Jesus (Yahshua) and His apostles labored mightily. They spoke the Word, the Logos, which is the eternal purpose and plan of God. And they wrote His vision for this earth down for us to be able to study and prepare ourselves for the end times.
Now we, the sons and daughters of the latter rain must follow our example–Christ. “For herein He has left us an example that we should follow His steps, who did no sin, neither was guile found in His mouth” (I Pet 2: 21-22). We are to follow our Example.
We are to be like Him. “For we know that when He shall appear, we shall be like Him…” (I John 3: 2). Don’t let any gainsayer try to tell you differently–not your mom or dad, brother or sister, wife or husband, best friend or feared enemy. We should be like Christ, and with His Spirit within us, we can and will be like Him. In fact we are to live “godly in this present world”! (Titus 2: 12).
This is our hope–and His hope. This is our vision–and His vision. This is our destiny–and His destiny for us.
There–I’ve said it. Now that the cat’s out of the bag, we are free to speak this vision of manifested sonship throughout the entire planet earth–wherever you are.
Speak the word. Speak the truth. For when you speak this truth, you are speaking the WORD. You are speaking Him, for He is the WORD, and the WORD is thereby becoming flesh one more time–in you and in me and now through us! Speak the Word.
And as I was reading in scripture the other day…
'Seeing you have purified your souls in your obedience to the truth through the Spirit in sincere brotherly affection, love one another from the heart fervently: having been born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, through the word of God, which lives and remains forever. For, “All flesh is like grass, and all of man's glory like the flower in the grass. The grass withers, and its flower falls; but the Lord's word endures forever.” This is the word of Good News which was preached to you.'
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