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kw
you haven understood the scriptures I have shown you and so you haven understood the words of Paul either ,
for can you show me every word Paul say according to the fruits of the spirit what they really mean in practice according to the spirit of truth that comes from God through his son ?
Nick,
Hi KW,
Did you not put on the breastplate of righteousness?
eph 6.14
I strive to ensure that every word I write and speak is true.
Nick,
The question is what did Jesus Christ accomplish by sacrificing himself as righteousness was already imputed to human beings of faith? The reward of righteousness is eternal life.
kw
you say;I strive to ensure that every word I write and speak is true.
but this is false for it can only be true if you quote the scriptures that says the truth that you say you believe ,if not it his your opinion and that is not the truth of God ,
many things you said are not the truth ,
Terrarica,
the spirit of truth that comes from God through his son ?
That is why the Spirit of God is also called the Spirit of Christ.
Terrarica,
Those that come into the light obey the gospel of Christ and so through faith both receive and live by the Spirit. Those that love the works of the flesh will not come into the light because they do not want to learn to live by the Spirit and forsake the deeds of the flesh.
The gospel is voiced in the spirit of truth and those that hold to it learn to always put on their new self that created like God in true righteousness and holiness.
Do not be deceived God does not sin .
terraricca,
Paul, or any other writer of the new testament, did not limit themselves to only speaking what was written but instead used reason based on Scripture and other things to preach the gospel and teach those that believed.
Your words are somewhat unclear but the bottom line of them is that you do not believe the words I speak.
It is my hope all human beings believe the truth but many will not. All I can do is to strive to speak what is true and leave it to my hearers to judge for themselves if its spirit is of God or not.
Hi KW,
God counted faith as righteousness for SOME.
Now by the work of Jesus that righteousness is accessible to ALL who are born into Christ.
Put on the breastplate of righteousness.
Hi KW,
Attempting to develop your own righteousness is folly.
You cannot match the righteousness of Christ freely available to you
Salvation is not for the self righteous. Those who would save themselves will be lost.
kw
erraricca,
1) Paul, or any other writer of the new testament, did not limit themselves to only speaking what was written but instead used reason based on Scripture and other things to preach the gospel and teach those that believed.
2) Your words are somewhat unclear but the bottom line of them is that you do not believe the words I speak.
3) It is my hope all human beings believe the truth but many will not.4) All I can do is to strive to speak what is true and leave it to my hearers to judge for themselves if its spirit is of God or not.
1) they did not say one word that was not found in scriptures and so did Jesus ,if not so show me
2) you are right but not the only one ,for I like scriptures that shows your understanding with your explanation ,for we want to glorify God not our person for the knowledge we received ,
3) since the beginning we all know that very few will come to the truth within them the love for God and his son ;for the flood shows this ,and Jesus demonstrate this when he came only about 500 men out of a nation with millions of people ,
scriptures says we haven’t bring nothing in the earth and when we leave we will not take anything with us except our soul to be judged by God for judgment ,
Nick,
Being credited with righteousness was not just for the few. Abraham, Job, Zechariah, Elizabeth, Simon, and more are called righteous in Scripture lived before Jesus sacrificed himself.
All through his those that have faith in God be they Gentile or Jew have been being credited with righteousness. Marty’s words to me are in his last post are correct as far as they go Jesus sacrificed himself so the the Spirit in its role of counselor would come.
John 7:39Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
John 16:7Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
That is two witnesses though both are from the book of John.
Terraricca,
Paul spoke of the third heaven which is part of a Jewish-Christian teaching not mentioned in the OT. There is evidence of multiple heavens but the exact number is not mentioned. Some early teachings claim Seven while some relatively newer ones claim Ten.
There is also the mention Tatarus which is the place evil supernatural creatures and disobedient men are placed in after death in the Greek polytheist religion. Is there a parallel to the idea in the OT? It is possible it is Abaddon, which is not mentioned in the NT by that name though a supernatural creature is given that name.
Nick,
You cannot match the righteousness of Christ freely available to you
I found nowhere in the AV of the KJV where it is written that the righteously of Christ is freely available to anyone.
It is written that:
Romans 3:21-22Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
You already know those that put on the new man created like God in true righteousness and holiness have the righteousness of God which is by faith in Jesus Christ.
Those who wear the old man do not have the righteousness of God that comes by faith.
kw
Terraricca,
Paul spoke of the third heaven which is part of a Jewish-Christian teaching not mentioned in the OT. There is evidence of multiple heavens but the exact number is not mentioned. Some early teachings claim Seven while some relatively newer ones claim Ten.
There is also the mention Tatarus which is the place evil supernatural creatures and disobedient men are placed in after death in the Greek polytheist religion. Is there a parallel to the idea in the OT? It is possible it is Abaddon, which is not mentioned in the NT by that name though a supernatural creature is given that name.
are you sure of that ? where are your scriptures ? show them please
terraricca,
Some translations obscure it by their choice of words but the American Standard Version seems not to do so as much.
Job 26:6
Sheol is naked before God, And Abaddon hath no covering.Proverbs 15:11
Sheol and Abaddon are before Jehovah: How much more then the hearts of the children of men!Proverbs 27:20
Sheol and Abaddon are never satisfied; And the eyes of man are never satisfied.Revelation 9:11
They have over them as king the angel of the abyss: his name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in the Greek tongue he hath the name Apollyon.They like many translations obscure the name of Tartatus but this is one exception.
Holman Christian Standard Bible (2 Peter 2:4)
For if God didn’t spare the angels who sinned but threw them down into Tartarus and delivered them to be kept in chains of darkness until judgment;
In the Greek polytheistic religion Tartarus is a deep abyss and the angel mentioned in Revelations 9:11 who comes out of the abyss has the same name as the Hebrew Netherworld Abaddon.
The third heaven is mentioned in 2 Corinthians by Paul.
2 Corinthians 12:2American Standard Version (ASV)
2 I know a man in Christ, fourteen years ago (whether in the body, I know not; or whether out of the body, I know not; God knoweth), such a one caught up even to the third heaven.
The Jewish roots are revealed by the fact that both teaching have variations in the 1 Book of Enoch and there is another version of the multiple heavens teaching in 2 Enoch. 2 Enoch may not be Jewish.
Hi KW,
God has indeed credited some that scripture names of faith as righteous.
It was not their works but by grace.
But only about Jesus is it said that he was given the fullness of the Spirit.
The prophets were of the Spirit of Christ but Jesus is greater than the greatest of them.
Being blessed with his Spirit enables us to share in that divine approval he attained to.
Not by might nor by power but by My Spirit saith the Lord of Hosts.
Become joined to the body of Christ
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