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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 01 2009,10:45) Hi bd,
Just loving God has never been offered as a way of salvation has it?
Love shows in obedient fruit
Loving God is Obedient Fruit and it's the first and greatest commandment.Hi BD,
“If you love me obey my commandments”” Believe in God, believe also in me.” jn14
God knows those who are His.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 01 2009,12:29) Hi BD,
“If you love me obey my commandments”” Believe in God, believe also in me.” jn14
God knows those who are His.
” Believe in God, believe also in me.” jn14Moses or Muhammad could say the same thing.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 01 2009,12:32) Hi BD,
Sure as far as your guru goes.
Make you choice.
Nick,Believe in God
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 01 2009,12:33) Hi BD,
So do demons.
Do demons believe in God the same way that you do?Hi BD,
Demons believe in God and knew Jesus and Paul.
But their knowledge was not going to help them and they knew that too.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 01 2009,12:39) Hi BD,
Demons believe in God and knew Jesus and Paul.
But their knowledge was not going to help them and they knew that too.
Why? Are the demons already permanently condemned? can they too be converted?Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 01 2009,06:04) Quote (georg @ Sep. 30 2009,17:39) Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 30 2009,11:54) Quote (georg @ Sep. 30 2009,11:24) Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 29 2009,15:21) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,14:26) Hi BD,
Many false religions speak of Christ.
But you do not offer him as a foundation stone.So you stumble
Ephesians 2:19-21 (King James Version)19Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
21In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
You seem to always want to leave out those other than Christ Jesus. The Quran speaks like verse 20 but you forget all those who paved the way for Christ Jesus and instead make Christ a demigod.
If you would know Ancient History, you would know that God's People are not what you say they are. Just like the Catholic Church teaches false, so is Islam. The Quran is not of God. Just like the trinity is not of God. Chriest is not a demigod, He is the Son of God. He was the firstborn over all creation.
Rev,.3:14
And how do you know that we don't belief in the corner stone? He is the riock that the Church was built on.
When in Ephesiansd 2:19 We have fellowship with the Saints and are of the Household of God. You are jumping to wrong conclusions about what we are all about. Those others are we, that believe in the Bible being Gods Word and not the Quran.
The Minister in the Baptist Church had a Quran and it spoke of so many wrong things, that is all I am saying about the Quran.
Just like the Catholic on this site I will tell you too.
Rev. 18:4 .. Come out of Her my People, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.
Peace and Lov Irene
Yes, you are correct, Christ is not a demi God so why treat him a such?Do you believe in God and if So who is the God you believe in?
Do you worship Christ as God?
I and all of Islam worships the God that Jesus Christ worships, do you still say that this is a false god?
My Husband and I worship the God of the Bible. No I do not worship Christ. He however is the Son of God and deserves all Honor and Glory. Just like a King does. He is Lord of Lords and King of Kings. What I don't understand is that Jesus Christ is the Son of God of the Bible, yet you want to go by the Quran, why? Is the Bible not good enough for you?
Peace and Love Irene
The Bible is perfectly good for me but the fact is it is not as clear as the Quran. You say that Jesus is the “son” of God but when the bible says that Adam is the son of God you say it's not the same or when it calls the angels the sons of God you say it's not the same, when it says ye are all the children of the Most High you say it's not the same. So, the fact is you seem to think God did something different with Jesus.So you think “son” in context with Jesus is somehow God's actual physical son like how we have sons on earth but God does not Procreate He creates so ALL are His creation including Jesus.
If you don't believe that Jesus is a creation of God then you believe in the trinity.
First of all where did I say all what you are writting here?
Jesus is Gods literal Son while we are the Adopted Sons of God. Jesus also is Lord of Lord and King of Kings and He is the Head of man, while the man is the Head of the woman, and the head of Christ is God. And He died for us and is our Savior and our Mediator to go to the Throne of God and ask for the forgiveness of our Sins. Also He preexsisted befotre He became a man. He is the firstborn over all creation.
Col. 1:5-17
Rev. 3L14
You are really njumping to conclusion what I believe and what I don't believe. I don't believe in the trinity and I never will again. I really don't have to tell you what I don't believe and what I believe. You are making me upset when you telling me what I am not. You and that Catholic have alot in common.
Peace and Love IreneHi BD,
They knew of the TIME and thought their torment had begun when Jesus arrived.
Only men can be converted.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 01 2009,12:43) Hi BD,
They knew of the TIME and thought their torment had begun when Jesus arrived.
Only men can be converted.
Why did Jesus show them mercy and yet you show no sign of mercy? Oppressing fellow believers instead.Hi BD,
Mercy?
Their time had yet to come.
Will excuses be sufficient to explain ignoring the message of hope?Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 01 2009,12:58) Hi BD,
Why cling to plants not planted by the Father as they will be pulled out?
Yes, and those who show no mercy and no compassion will be plucked up with no mercy and no compassion.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 02 2009,13:21) Hi BD,
Mercy and compassion towards religious institutions?
People are not institutions but institutions are comprised of people.Hi BD,
So you can love the people and despise the institutions that imprison them and rob them of hope?Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 03 2009,06:14) Hi BD,
So you can love the people and despise the institutions that imprison them and rob them of hope?
Their is no reason to despise the institutions either and the reason is you have your own cross to bear. The practices of any person or institution if ungodly should be despised.
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