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Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 23 2010,17:00) Quote (chosenone @ Mar. 23 2010,16:54) …seeing that out of Him and through Him and for Him is all: to Him be the glory for the eons! Amen! (Ro.11:36) … nevertheless for us there is one God, the Father, out of Whom all is, and we for Him, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through Whom all is, and we through Him. (1Cor.8:6)
…For even as the woman is out of the man, thus the man also is through the woman, yet all is of God. (1Cor.11:12)
…Yet all is of God, Who conciliates us to Himself through Christ, and is giving us the dispensation of the conciliation,
19 how that God was in Christ, conciliating the world to Himself, not reckoning their offenses to them, and placing in us the word of the conciliation. (2Cor.5:18-19)Can we do anything to obtain our salvation? No, ALL IS OF GOD. Thinking we can do something to effect our salvation is taking the glory away from God, who is the saviour of all mankind. (1Tim4:10)
Blessings, Jerry.
COyes we can do something “accepting his gift”
terraricca.
Scripture does not agree with you, see Eph.2:8-9 …8 For in grace, through faith, are you saved, and this is not out of you; it is God's approach present,
9 not of works, lest anyone should be boasting.Notice it says “and this is not out of you”. Also “lest anyone should be boasting”.
Also in Eph.2:10 …For His achievement are we, being created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God makes ready beforehand, that we should be walking in them.
Notice it says “His achievement are we”.
It is so easy to try and take credit for yourself, “All is of God”, and ALL the glory goes to “Him”.
Blessings.
Quote (chosenone @ Mar. 24 2010,12:36) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 23 2010,17:00) Quote (chosenone @ Mar. 23 2010,16:54) …seeing that out of Him and through Him and for Him is all: to Him be the glory for the eons! Amen! (Ro.11:36) … nevertheless for us there is one God, the Father, out of Whom all is, and we for Him, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through Whom all is, and we through Him. (1Cor.8:6)
…For even as the woman is out of the man, thus the man also is through the woman, yet all is of God. (1Cor.11:12)
…Yet all is of God, Who conciliates us to Himself through Christ, and is giving us the dispensation of the conciliation,
19 how that God was in Christ, conciliating the world to Himself, not reckoning their offenses to them, and placing in us the word of the conciliation. (2Cor.5:18-19)Can we do anything to obtain our salvation? No, ALL IS OF GOD. Thinking we can do something to effect our salvation is taking the glory away from God, who is the saviour of all mankind. (1Tim4:10)
Blessings, Jerry.
COyes we can do something “accepting his gift”
terraricca.
Scripture does not agree with you, see Eph.2:8-9 …8 For in grace, through faith, are you saved, and this is not out of you; it is God's approach present,
9 not of works, lest anyone should be boasting.Notice it says “and this is not out of you”. Also “lest anyone should be boasting”.
Also in Eph.2:10 …For His achievement are we, being created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God makes ready beforehand, that we should be walking in them.
Notice it says “His achievement are we”.
It is so easy to try and take credit for yourself, “All is of God”, and ALL the glory goes to “Him”.
Blessings.
CO
the scriptures can not be broken,if it is you interpretation is wrong, this one is very clear.Jas 1:2 Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds,
Jas 1:3 because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance.
Jas 1:4 Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.
Jas 1:5 If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him.
Jas 1:6 But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind.
Jas 1:7 That man should not think he will receive anything from the Lord;
Jas 1:8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all he doesALL YOUR SCRIPTURES AS NOTHING TO DO OR INTERFERE WITH THE ABOVE AND OTHER SCRIPTURES I HAVE GIVEN YOU.
I WILL NOT STOP YOU TO FALLOW YOUR FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS IT IS UP TO YOU TO SEE I JUST BTING IT TO YOU ,YOU DON'T DRINK IT FINE WITH ME ,IT IS ON YOUR HEAD NOT MINE.
Quote (mikeangel @ Mar. 23 2010,18:27) Who's argueing about words? Someone said in Timothy it said not to. So why turn around and do it and chastise others for it? Love and peace-Me
Mike,Today I was feeling like something wasnt right with my faith ,all the wrong feelings. I had a sleep, woke up and prayed and the thought of Peter came to mind..”.Peter why did you doubt?”
Needless arguements are a waste of time. What this means, what that means- pretty bad for the mind- in my opinion.
We need to be apart of the light. To give the world some warmth and kindness. Especially these days:)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 24 2010,14:32) Quote (chosenone @ Mar. 24 2010,12:36) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 23 2010,17:00) Quote (chosenone @ Mar. 23 2010,16:54) …seeing that out of Him and through Him and for Him is all: to Him be the glory for the eons! Amen! (Ro.11:36) … nevertheless for us there is one God, the Father, out of Whom all is, and we for Him, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through Whom all is, and we through Him. (1Cor.8:6)
…For even as the woman is out of the man, thus the man also is through the woman, yet all is of God. (1Cor.11:12)
…Yet all is of God, Who conciliates us to Himself through Christ, and is giving us the dispensation of the conciliation,
19 how that God was in Christ, conciliating the world to Himself, not reckoning their offenses to them, and placing in us the word of the conciliation. (2Cor.5:18-19)Can we do anything to obtain our salvation? No, ALL IS OF GOD. Thinking we can do something to effect our salvation is taking the glory away from God, who is the saviour of all mankind. (1Tim4:10)
Blessings, Jerry.
COyes we can do something “accepting his gift”
terraricca.
Scripture does not agree with you, see Eph.2:8-9 …8 For in grace, through faith, are you saved, and this is not out of you; it is God's approach present,
9 not of works, lest anyone should be boasting.Notice it says “and this is not out of you”. Also “lest anyone should be boasting”.
Also in Eph.2:10 …For His achievement are we, being created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God makes ready beforehand, that we should be walking in them.
Notice it says “His achievement are we”.
It is so easy to try and take credit for yourself, “All is of God”, and ALL the glory goes to “Him”.
Blessings.
CO
the scriptures can not be broken,if it is you interpretation is wrong, this one is very clear.Jas 1:2 Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds,
Jas 1:3 because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance.
Jas 1:4 Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.
Jas 1:5 If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him.
Jas 1:6 But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind.
Jas 1:7 That man should not think he will receive anything from the Lord;
Jas 1:8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all he doesALL YOUR SCRIPTURES AS NOTHING TO DO OR INTERFERE WITH THE ABOVE AND OTHER SCRIPTURES I HAVE GIVEN YOU.
I WILL NOT STOP YOU TO FALLOW YOUR FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS IT IS UP TO YOU TO SEE I JUST BTING IT TO YOU ,YOU DON'T DRINK IT FINE WITH ME ,IT IS ON YOUR HEAD NOT MINE.
terraricca.
You conveniently left out the first verse, look to whom it is to. I'll copy it for you …1 James, a slave of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes in the dispersion. Rejoice!
Notice it is to “the twelve tribes in the dispersion”. I'll leave it to you to see if you can figure out who this is.
You will gain more understanding if you “correctly cut the word of truth”. (2Tim.2:15)If you read the scriptures I have posted, your reply has nothing that contradicts what is written. Try to understand what God is doing, not what you are doing. This will give you a better understanding of Gods plan to be “All in all” (1Cor.15:28)
Blessings.
Quote (chosenone @ Mar. 24 2010,15:46) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 24 2010,14:32) Quote (chosenone @ Mar. 24 2010,12:36) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 23 2010,17:00) Quote (chosenone @ Mar. 23 2010,16:54) …seeing that out of Him and through Him and for Him is all: to Him be the glory for the eons! Amen! (Ro.11:36) … nevertheless for us there is one God, the Father, out of Whom all is, and we for Him, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through Whom all is, and we through Him. (1Cor.8:6)
…For even as the woman is out of the man, thus the man also is through the woman, yet all is of God. (1Cor.11:12)
…Yet all is of God, Who conciliates us to Himself through Christ, and is giving us the dispensation of the conciliation,
19 how that God was in Christ, conciliating the world to Himself, not reckoning their offenses to them, and placing in us the word of the conciliation. (2Cor.5:18-19)Can we do anything to obtain our salvation? No, ALL IS OF GOD. Thinking we can do something to effect our salvation is taking the glory away from God, who is the saviour of all mankind. (1Tim4:10)
Blessings, Jerry.
COyes we can do something “accepting his gift”
terraricca.
Scripture does not agree with you, see Eph.2:8-9 …8 For in grace, through faith, are you saved, and this is not out of you; it is God's approach present,
9 not of works, lest anyone should be boasting.Notice it says “and this is not out of you”. Also “lest anyone should be boasting”.
Also in Eph.2:10 …For His achievement are we, being created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God makes ready beforehand, that we should be walking in them.
Notice it says “His achievement are we”.
It is so easy to try and take credit for yourself, “All is of God”, and ALL the glory goes to “Him”.
Blessings.
CO
the scriptures can not be broken,if it is you interpretation is wrong, this one is very clear.Jas 1:2 Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds,
Jas 1:3 because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance.
Jas 1:4 Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.
Jas 1:5 If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him.
Jas 1:6 But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind.
Jas 1:7 That man should not think he will receive anything from the Lord;
Jas 1:8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all he doesALL YOUR SCRIPTURES AS NOTHING TO DO OR INTERFERE WITH THE ABOVE AND OTHER SCRIPTURES I HAVE GIVEN YOU.
I WILL NOT STOP YOU TO FALLOW YOUR FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS IT IS UP TO YOU TO SEE I JUST BTING IT TO YOU ,YOU DON'T DRINK IT FINE WITH ME ,IT IS ON YOUR HEAD NOT MINE.
terraricca.
You conveniently left out the first verse, look to whom it is to. I'll copy it for you …1 James, a slave of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes in the dispersion. Rejoice!
Notice it is to “the twelve tribes in the dispersion”. I'll leave it to you to see if you can figure out who this is.
You will gain more understanding if you “correctly cut the word of truth”. (2Tim.2:15)If you read the scriptures I have posted, your reply has nothing that contradicts what is written. Try to understand what God is doing, not what you are doing. This will give you a better understanding of Gods plan to be “All in all” (1Cor.15:28)
Blessings.
COi let this verse out to see if you would respond on it ,and you did,
now would it be that the ;the twelve tribes in the dispersion”. ,do not includ you ??
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 24 2010,15:54) CO i let this verse out to see if you would respond on it ,and you did,
now would it be that the ;the twelve tribes in the dispersion”. ,do not includ you ??
terraricca.
I do not believe you when you say that “you left it out on purpose to see if I would respond”. I say this because of your next question… “now would it be that the ;the twelve tribes in the dispersion”. ,do not includ you ??”You don't seem to know who are “the twelve tribes in the dispersion” are. If you did, you would not ask the question “does it not include you?”
Of course it does not include me, the “twelve tribes in the dispersion”, are those of Israel who are scattered among the nations. Did you not realise this? I think your lack of understanding of this shows that you do not “correctly cut the word of truth” (2Tim2:15)Blessings.
Quote (chosenone @ Mar. 24 2010,16:18) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 24 2010,15:54) CO i let this verse out to see if you would respond on it ,and you did,
now would it be that the ;the twelve tribes in the dispersion”. ,do not includ you ??
terraricca.
I do not believe you when you say that “you left it out on purpose to see if I would respond”. I say this because of your next question… “now would it be that the ;the twelve tribes in the dispersion”. ,do not includ you ??”You don't seem to know who are “the twelve tribes in the dispersion” are. If you did, you would not ask the question “does it not include you?”
Of course it does not include me, the “twelve tribes in the dispersion”, are those of Israel who are scattered among the nations. Did you not realise this? I think your lack of understanding of this shows that you do not “correctly cut the word of truth” (2Tim2:15)Blessings.
COyou have spoken for you you are not part of the 12 tribe dispursed,
i nerver say i was not.
terraricca.
You manage to never answer to the topic we are discussing, I don't feel it is worthwhile continuing this.
God bless, Jerry.Quote (chosenone @ Mar. 24 2010,17:14) terraricca.
You manage to never answer to the topic we are discussing, I don't feel it is worthwhile continuing this.
God bless, Jerry.
CO2Co 4:2 Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth plainly we commend ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God.
Quote (chosenone @ Mar. 25 2010,07:14) Useing scripture is not distorting the word.
COif you only use 3 or 5 word out of the truth of the verse it is.
Quote (chosenone @ Mar. 25 2010,17:37) You must stop doing that then.
cogo to free will Nick as something
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