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April 7, 2012 at 5:03 pm#290701

Ed J

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Hi BD,

1 Cor 2:6-16 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world,
nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought: But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery,
even the hidden wisdom (see 2Cor.4:4), which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into
the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which
things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the HolySpirit teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him:
neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he
himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

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Notice it says he that is spiritual judgeth all “things” this was not permission to judge people.

John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him:
the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

It's “The Word” of YHVH that convicts you!

John 3:17-21 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world;
but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned:
but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

April 17, 2012 at 1:05 pm#292965

Wakeup

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Quote (bodhitharta @ April 04 2012,11:28)

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Hi Tim, two quick points that YOU don't seem to understand too well…

1) The Romans called their 'god' jupiter, but you could hardly say
that YHVH and the roman god Jupiter(?) are the same god;
the same goes for the muslim god 'al-Lah' and YHVH.

2) To be baptized in the name of Jesus means: to understand
that Jesus death on the cross is the ONLY way to the father.

Jesus’ Name in Hebrew יהשוע means:
(“YÄ is salvation” [יה]+[ישע]=[יהשוע])
the salvation of “GOD the Father”.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

The only problem with that theory is that Christian and Jewish Arabs were calling ALLAH their Godbefore Muhammad came. These Christian Arabs awere baptizing in the name of Jesus and believing exactly as you believe even calling Jesus the son of Allah, something Muslims do not do.

Those Arab Christians who say Allah believe Jesus died on the Cross. So you despise your own kind

Hi Bodhitharta.

Lets see what is prophesied about Ishmael.

Gen17:20.And as for ishmael,I have heard thee: Behold,I have blessed him,and will make him fruitful,and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget,and I will make him a great nation. (This has come to pass).

and 16:12. He will be a WILD MAN: and his hand will be against every man,and every mans hand against him;and he shall dwell in the prescence of all his brethren. (This has also come pass).

Brethren killing brethren,as it is today;every mans hand against him,and his hand against every man.

Zech.14:21.
Yea every pot in Jerusalem and in juda shall be holyness unto the Lord of host; and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them,and seeth therein: AND IN THAT DAY THERE SHALL BE –NO MORE–THE CANAANITES, in the house of the Lord.(canaanites= muslems.) No more muslems.

Zeph.2:5. numb.24:20. isiah.14:31.

Dont deny those sciptures,for they also will be fulfilled.

wakeup.

April 17, 2012 at 3:49 pm#292972

bodhitharta

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Quote (Wakeup @ April 18 2012,00:05)

Quote (bodhitharta @ April 04 2012,11:28)

Quote (Ed J @ April 04 2012,09:57)

Hi Tim, two quick points that YOU don't seem to understand too well…

1) The Romans called their 'god' jupiter, but you could hardly say
that YHVH and the roman god Jupiter(?) are the same god;
the same goes for the muslim god 'al-Lah' and YHVH.

2) To be baptized in the name of Jesus means: to understand
that Jesus death on the cross is the ONLY way to the father.

Jesus’ Name in Hebrew יהשוע means:
(“YÄ is salvation” [יה]+[ישע]=[יהשוע])
the salvation of “GOD the Father”.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

Those Arab Christians who say Allah believe Jesus died on the Cross. So you despise your own kind

Hi Bodhitharta.

Lets see what is prophesied about Ishmael.

and 16:12. He will be a WILD MAN: and his hand will be against every man,and every mans hand against him;and he shall dwell in the prescence of all his brethren. (This has also come pass).

Brethren killing brethren,as it is today;every mans hand against him,and his hand against every man.

Zeph.2:5. numb.24:20. isiah.14:31.

Dont deny those sciptures,for they also will be fulfilled.

wakeup.

Canaanites are not Muslims. Muslims are not a race it is a way of life.

April 17, 2012 at 5:16 pm#292977

bodhitharta

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Quote (Wakeup @ April 18 2012,00:05)

Quote (bodhitharta @ April 04 2012,11:28)

Quote (Ed J @ April 04 2012,09:57)

Hi Tim, two quick points that YOU don't seem to understand too well…

1) The Romans called their 'god' jupiter, but you could hardly say
that YHVH and the roman god Jupiter(?) are the same god;
the same goes for the muslim god 'al-Lah' and YHVH.

2) To be baptized in the name of Jesus means: to understand
that Jesus death on the cross is the ONLY way to the father.

Jesus’ Name in Hebrew יהשוע means:
(“YÄ is salvation” [יה]+[ישע]=[יהשוע])
the salvation of “GOD the Father”.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

Those Arab Christians who say Allah believe Jesus died on the Cross. So you despise your own kind

Hi Bodhitharta.

Lets see what is prophesied about Ishmael.

and 16:12. He will be a WILD MAN: and his hand will be against every man,and every mans hand against him;and he shall dwell in the prescence of all his brethren. (This has also come pass).

Brethren killing brethren,as it is today;every mans hand against him,and his hand against every man.

Zeph.2:5. numb.24:20. isiah.14:31.

Dont deny those sciptures,for they also will be fulfilled.

wakeup.

Most of all you missed the main prophecy in the fulfillment of the Law which is this:

Deuteronomy 21:15-17

King James Version (KJV)

15If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:

16Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn:

17But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.

Ishmael was the actual firstborn but Isaac received the promise but God after that made the law which is what is above and the Law is also prophecy fulfilled d if you look at the size of Islam you can easily tell God delivered big time. That is clear prophecy my friend

April 20, 2012 at 12:00 am#293566

Wakeup

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Quote (bodhitharta @ April 18 2012,04:16)

Quote (Wakeup @ April 18 2012,00:05)

Quote (bodhitharta @ April 04 2012,11:28)

Quote (Ed J @ April 04 2012,09:57)

Hi Tim, two quick points that YOU don't seem to understand too well…

1) The Romans called their 'god' jupiter, but you could hardly say
that YHVH and the roman god Jupiter(?) are the same god;
the same goes for the muslim god 'al-Lah' and YHVH.

2) To be baptized in the name of Jesus means: to understand
that Jesus death on the cross is the ONLY way to the father.

Jesus’ Name in Hebrew יהשוע means:
(“YÄ is salvation” [יה]+[ישע]=[יהשוע])
the salvation of “GOD the Father”.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

Those Arab Christians who say Allah believe Jesus died on the Cross. So you despise your own kind

Hi Bodhitharta.

Lets see what is prophesied about Ishmael.

and 16:12. He will be a WILD MAN: and his hand will be against every man,and every mans hand against him;and he shall dwell in the prescence of all his brethren. (This has also come pass).

Brethren killing brethren,as it is today;every mans hand against him,and his hand against every man.

Zeph.2:5. numb.24:20. isiah.14:31.

Dont deny those sciptures,for they also will be fulfilled.

wakeup.

Most of all you missed the main prophecy in the fulfillment of the Law which is this:

Deuteronomy 21:15-17

King James Version (KJV)

15If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:

16Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn:

17But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.

Bodhitharta.

When Ishmael was conceived,it was by the will of sarah,not God.When Isaac was born,it was by the promise of God to Abraham.He is the one that God has in mind,not Ishmael.

The qur'an and the holy bible are two contradictions,you can not accept both. You accept the qur'an or the bible.
Either you reject the qur'an or reject the bible.
The bible is written by jews; you as a true muslem should not touch the bible.You are not being faithful.You might loose your head.

wakeup.

April 22, 2012 at 9:03 pm#294258

bodhitharta

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Quote (bodhitharta @ April 18 2012,04:16)

Quote (Wakeup @ April 18 2012,00:05)

Quote (bodhitharta @ April 04 2012,11:28)

Quote (Ed J @ April 04 2012,09:57)

Hi Tim, two quick points that YOU don't seem to understand too well…

1) The Romans called their 'god' jupiter, but you could hardly say
that YHVH and the roman god Jupiter(?) are the same god;
the same goes for the muslim god 'al-Lah' and YHVH.

2) To be baptized in the name of Jesus means: to understand
that Jesus death on the cross is the ONLY way to the father.

Jesus’ Name in Hebrew יהשוע means:
(“YÄ is salvation” [יה]+[ישע]=[יהשוע])
the salvation of “GOD the Father”.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

Those Arab Christians who say Allah believe Jesus died on the Cross. So you despise your own kind

Hi Bodhitharta.

Lets see what is prophesied about Ishmael.

and 16:12. He will be a WILD MAN: and his hand will be against every man,and every mans hand against him;and he shall dwell in the prescence of all his brethren. (This has also come pass).

Brethren killing brethren,as it is today;every mans hand against him,and his hand against every man.

Zeph.2:5. numb.24:20. isiah.14:31.

Dont deny those sciptures,for they also will be fulfilled.

wakeup.

Most of all you missed the main prophecy in the fulfillment of the Law which is this:

Deuteronomy 21:15-17

King James Version (KJV)

15If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:

16Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn:

17But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.

Bodhitharta.

When Ishmael was conceived,it was by the will of sarah,not God.When Isaac was born,it was by the promise of God to Abraham.He is the one that God has in mind,not Ishmael.

wakeup.

The Scripture I gave you had nothing to do with who's idea it was it i written in the Law

Deuteronomy 21:15-17

King James Version (KJV)

15If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:

16Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn:

17But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.

Where do you see anything about who's idea it was? Where did you read that Ishmael being born first was not God's will? You have to make that kind of story up it's not in the Bible.

Ishmael was the Firstborn why call the Bible wrong?

April 22, 2012 at 10:15 pm#294274

942767

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Hi BD:

Hagar was Sarah's hand maid, and not Abraham's wife. Isaac was symbolic of Jesus the promised Messiah. And the scripture states, of the seed of Abraham that “in Isaac his seed would be called”. And so, in the promised child, the Messiah, Jesus, the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world, God calls those who desire to be reconciled to Him in to a relationship with Him, through the preaching of the gospel. God is calling whosoever will come. How will you respond?

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Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

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Rom 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, [are they] all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

Rom 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these [are] not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Rom 9:9 For this [is] the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sara shall have a son.

Rom 9:10 And not only [this]; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, [even] by our father Isaac;

Rom 9:11 (For [the children] being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)

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Gal 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, [saying], In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Gal 3:9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Gal 3:10 ¶ For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed [is] every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

Gal 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, [it is] evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

Gal 3:12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed [is] every one that hangeth on a tree:

Gal 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Gal 3:15 ¶ Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though [it be] but a man's covenant, yet [if it be] confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.

Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Gal 3:17 And this I say, [that] the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

Gal 3:18 For if the inheritance [be] of the law, [it is] no more of promise: but God gave [it] to Abraham by promise.

Gal 3:19 ¶ Wherefore then [serveth] the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; [and it was] ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

Gal 3:20 Now a mediator is not [a mediator] of one, but God is one.

Gal 3:21 [Is] the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

Gal 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster [to bring us] unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Gal 3:26 ¶ For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Gal 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Love in Christ,
Marty

April 23, 2012 at 1:31 am#294300

bodhitharta

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