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  • #289658
    Ed J
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    Sura 5 118:

    The Jews and Christians say: We are sons of Allah

    Sura 9 30:

    the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah.
         That is their saying with their mouths.  

                      FALSE!

    Christians say: 'al-Lah' is satan the devil
    and muhammad is his 'false prophet'!


            What saith YHVH about the wicked house of islam?

        “The curse of YHVH is in the house of the wicked” (Prov 3:33)

    “Though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you
    than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.” (Gal 1:8)

    “No marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.” (2 Cor 11:14)


    יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

    #289659
    Ed J
    Participant

    Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him:
    but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Spirit (speaketh against the Holy Spirit), it
    shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. (Mt.12:32)

    #289660
    Ed J
    Participant

    Prob.4:30 is clearly speaking about:  [יהוה] YÄ-hä-vā and HIS SON  [יהשוע]YÄ-shü-ă


                                              Here is the context…

    Prov 30:4-6 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists?
    who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth?
    what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell? Every word of God is pure:
    he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.


       Therefore, all muslins are found to be LIARS and ANTICHRIST!
    “He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1John 2:22)


                     That means a trip to the 'lake of fire, sorry!

    Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers,
    and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part
    in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the SECOND DEATH.


    Witness (Ed) עד (Joshua 22:34)

    #289662
    Ed J
    Participant

    #289667
    Ed J
    Participant

    “He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1John 2:22)


    Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
    13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.
    14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
    15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God. (1 John 4:13-15)


    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

    #289669
    Ed J
    Participant

    Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,

    and ye shall receive the gift of the HolySpirit. (Acts 2:38)


    Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him:
    but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Spirit (speaketh against the Holy Spirit), it
    shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. (Mt.12:32)


    “For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.
    But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or

    The son of man, that thou visitest him? Thou madest him a little lower than the angels;
    thou crownedst him with glory and honor, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:

    Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet.” (Hebrews 2:5-8)

    #289683
    TimothyVI
    Participant

    Ed,

    I don't understand your problem with the name Allah.
    Don't you understand that to the Muslims Allah is the same as saying God?
    It means the very same thing.

    What you are implying is the same as saying that to be baptized in water is
    acceptable but for the Spanish to be baptized in agua is not a true baptism.
    Water and agua are the same thing in different languages.

    Tim

    #289745
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Tim, two quick points that YOU don't seem to understand too well…

    1) The Romans called their 'god' jupiter, but you could hardly say
    that YHVH and the roman god Jupiter(?) are the same god;
    the same goes for the muslim god 'al-Lah' and YHVH.

    2) To be baptized in the name of Jesus means: to understand
    that Jesus death on the cross is the ONLY way to the father.

    Jesus’ Name in Hebrew יהשוע means:
    (“YÄ is salvation” [יה]+[ישע]=[יהשוע])
    the salvation of “GOD the Father”.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

    #289756
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 04 2012,09:57)
    Hi Tim, two quick points that YOU don't seem to understand too well…

    1) The Romans called their 'god' jupiter, but you could hardly say
    that YHVH and the roman god Jupiter(?) are the same god;
    the same goes for the muslim god 'al-Lah' and YHVH.

    2) To be baptized in the name of Jesus means: to understand
    that Jesus death on the cross is the ONLY way to the father.

    Jesus’ Name in Hebrew יהשוע means:
    (“YÄ is salvation” [יה]+[ישע]=[יהשוע])
    the salvation of “GOD the Father”.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)


    The only problem with that theory is that Christian and Jewish Arabs were calling ALLAH their Godbefore Muhammad came. These Christian Arabs awere baptizing in the name of Jesus and believing exactly as you believe even calling Jesus the son of Allah, something Muslims do not do.

    Those Arab Christians who say Allah believe Jesus died on the Cross. So you despise your own kind

    #289763
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Do you bear false witness out of ignorance or willfulness?
    There was no Arab language at the time of Christ only Syriac.
    God in Syriac was called Ĕl-äh-hä. The god 'al-Lah' is fraudulent!

    יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

    #289793
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 04 2012,12:20)
    Hi BD,

    Do you bear false witness out of ignorance or willfulness?
    There was no Arab language at the time of Christ only Syriac.
    God in Syriac was called Ĕl-äh-hä. The god 'al-Lah' is fraudulent!

    יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    I didn't say at the time of Christ I said before Muhammad. But since you want to play games what was God called in America at the time of Christ since there was no English speaking people in America?

    Your games are juvenile and silly you best keep praying to God for insight for you are as blind as a bat

    #289802
    Ed J
    Participant

    BD,

    Your games of deception are getting you no-where! You shall have to answer for every word!

    “We shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live,
    saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
    So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.” (Romans 14:10-12)

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

    #289891
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 04 2012,14:46)
    BD,

    Your games of deception are getting you no-where! You shall have to answer for every word!

    “We shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live,
    saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
    So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.” (Romans 14:10-12)

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    John 8:15
    Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.

    What will happen at the judgement seat of Christ if he judgeth no man is John 8:15 true or false?

    #289892
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    John 8:15
    Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.

    John 5:22
    For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

    So theFather and the son won't judge and then they instruct you:

    Matthew 7:1
    Judge not, that ye be not judged.

    Luke 6:37
    Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

    In fact Paul goes as far as to say:

    1 Corinthians 4:3
    But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.

    Are these all lies or have you just chosen to ignore your instructions from Jesus?

    #289900
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 05 2012,06:28)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 04 2012,14:46)
    BD,

    Your games of deception are getting you no-where! You shall have to answer for every word!

    “We shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live,
    saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
    So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.” (Romans 14:10-12)

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    John 8:15
    Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.

    What will happen at the judgement seat of Christ if he judgeth no man is John 8:15 true or false?


    He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me. And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me.

    I (Jesus) come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.
    And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world,
    but to save the world. He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him:
    the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

    For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment,
    what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting:
    whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.” (John 12:44-50)

    Pulling stuff out of context in order to deceive is not wise!

    #289917
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2012,07:41)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ April 05 2012,06:28)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 04 2012,14:46)
    BD,

    Your games of deception are getting you no-where! You shall have to answer for every word!

    “We shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live,
    saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
    So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.” (Romans 14:10-12)

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    John 8:15
    Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.

    What will happen at the judgement seat of Christ if he judgeth no man is John 8:15 true or false?


    He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me. And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me.

    I (Jesus) come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.
    And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world,
    but to save the world. He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him:
    the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

    For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment,
    what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting:
    whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.” (John 12:44-50)

    Pulling stuff out of context in order to deceive is not wise!


    So the question is should you judge or not?

    #290076
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    1 Cor 2:6-16 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world,
    nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought: But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery,
    even the hidden wisdom (see 2Cor.4:4), which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
    Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
    But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into
    the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

    But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
    For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
    Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which

    things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth,
    but which the HolySpirit teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

    But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him:
    neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he
    himself is judged of no man.
    For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

    יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

    #290135
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2012,15:47)
    Hi BD,

    1 Cor 2:6-16 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world,
    nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought: But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery,
    even the hidden wisdom (see 2Cor.4:4), which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
    Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
    But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into
    the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

    But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
    For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
    Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which

    things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth,
    but which the HolySpirit teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

    But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him:
    neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he
    himself is judged of no man.
    For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

    יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    So should you judge or not? Can you say yes or no? Is it not that simple?

    #290637
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2012,15:47)
    Hi BD,

    1 Cor 2:6-16 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world,
    nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought: But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery,
    even the hidden wisdom (see 2Cor.4:4), which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
    Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
    But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into
    the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

    But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
    For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
    Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which

    things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth,
    but which the HolySpirit teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

    But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him:
    neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he
    himself is judged of no man.
    For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

    יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

    What do you say about this post?

    #290694
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 07 2012,20:19)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2012,15:47)
    Hi BD,

    1 Cor 2:6-16 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world,
    nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought: But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery,
    even the hidden wisdom (see 2Cor.4:4), which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
    Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
    But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into
    the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

    But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
    For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
    Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which

    things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth,
    but which the HolySpirit teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

    But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him:
    neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he
    himself is judged of no man.
    For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

    יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

    What do you say about this post?


    Notice it says he that is spiritual judgeth all “things” this was not permission to judge people.

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