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- April 18, 2012 at 5:18 pm#293196
terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Stu @ April 19 2012,07:43) Quote (terraricca @ April 18 2012,02:36) Quote (Stu @ April 18 2012,02:41) Quote (terraricca @ April 17 2012,09:39) Quote (TimothyVI @ April 17 2012,13:50) Quote (Stu @ April 17 2012,01:36) So the earth is a little younger than the sun, with the earth around 4.55 billion years old.
Stuart
Is that close to 6,000 years?Tim
the creation of the earth is one thing ,the creation of man is another ,man is here no longer than 6000 years
The last common ancestor of all humans, traced through the maternal line only, lived about 200,000 years ago. We know this because mitochondrial DNA is not recombined sexually, it accumulates mutations at a steady rate, on average 1 every 3500 years, so the time back to Mitochondrial Eve can be calculated from the numbers of differences in the mitochondrial DNA of people alive today.Completely independently, radioisotope dating of human fossil remains from the Omo River in Ethiopia give ages of 195,000 years old.
So the scale mistake involved in claiming humans only go back 6000 years is like saying that the distance between New York and Los Angeles is a matter of 50 miles or so.
Stuart
stuall you say is pure speculation,even today we well know witch animal as the closes DNA to humans and it does not make him a human ,some people may think so ,but this would be still speculation,
the only prove that would come out of those speculation is that all creation as been created from things coming out of the earth,and so being connected through that and those elements only.
Reality doesn't particularly care what you think about it.Stuart
stuit should read WE not YOU , we means all or any of us humans
April 18, 2012 at 8:57 pm#293226Stu
ParticipantQuote (Colter @ April 19 2012,01:26) Quote (Stu @ April 19 2012,00:46) Quote (Colter @ April 18 2012,22:40) The spirit born believer “knows” the presence of God, it is not a theory. Colter
No, if it was a theory there would be evidence to support it.There isn't, so what would you call it?
Speculation?
In your case it would appear to be bald assertion of a conspiracy of an Imaginary Tyrant running the universe.
Stuart
You don't have a relationship with God, you have a relationship with argumentative Stu, so you don't understand what spirit born believers are talking about.Colter
No, I think I do understand exactly.That's based on the fact that you have no unambiguous evidence for your god claims.
Your bluff is called.
Stuart
April 18, 2012 at 9:01 pm#293227Stu
ParticipantQuote (terraricca @ April 19 2012,04:16) Quote (Stu @ April 19 2012,07:44) Quote (terraricca @ April 18 2012,02:40) Quote (Stu @ April 18 2012,02:03) Quote (terraricca @ April 17 2012,12:39) all you know ,I have watched many documentaries about the earth ,animals ,mammals ,insects ,birds,fish and the invisible ones ,and the solar systems our 's and the others ,
it start to make me thinking,if the universe is so big and that there are billions of solar systems out there ,this would mean that there would be a slimmer than slim chance that there would be live on our planet ,but wen I have seen all the kinds of fish there are and other shell kind by the thousandths and so are the birds,and the ground animals by thousandths this also make it slimmer than slim that it all pop up and so beautifully came to be harmoniously coordinated that all those animals do and eat what they have been train to eat for their kind,
but wen it came to see the invisible to the eye, this was amazing ,bacteria,viruses, plankton,and hundreds more names I can't remember but all needed to sustain live on the planet , this again would make it slimmer than slim the chance that it all ad come by pure chance,
So what would you estimate to be the probability of life on Earth today?Stuart
stulive for men on earth will never end,
now what kind of men would it be ;this is another question.
Hopefully not me.Stuart
stuso we both have our wish ,me for life,and you to die
You wish for something that is promised to you by people who cannot possibly know anything about it. Placing the condition of death on any reward is the promise of a charlatan.I wish to live, then die. That is almost certainly what happens anyway. The living part is astonishing enough for me, and the death part gives that life meaning.
Stuart
April 18, 2012 at 9:08 pm#293229Stu
ParticipantQuote (terraricca @ April 19 2012,04:18) Quote Reality doesn't particularly care what you think about it. Stuart
stuit should read WE not YOU , we means all or any of us humans
That's quite true, but I've already acknowledged that for myself.But if we go back to what you claimed:
Quote all you say is pure speculation,even today we well know witch animal as the closes DNA to humans and it does not make him a human ,some people may think so ,but this would be still speculation the only prove that would come out of those speculation is that all creation as been created from things coming out of the earth,and so being connected through that and those elements only.
You call this speculation…actually I don't know what part you are calling speculation, you seem to be under some misconception that I think chimpanzees are humans…but there is no evidence whatever that life is created. Common ancestry is a fact as good as any, and it is evidence against the claims christians make for their god.
Stuart
April 19, 2012 at 2:06 am#293345princess
ParticipantQuote (Colter @ April 19 2012,01:26) Quote (Stu @ April 19 2012,00:46) Quote (Colter @ April 18 2012,22:40) The spirit born believer “knows” the presence of God, it is not a theory. Colter
No, if it was a theory there would be evidence to support it.There isn't, so what would you call it?
Speculation?
In your case it would appear to be bald assertion of a conspiracy of an Imaginary Tyrant running the universe.
Stuart
You don't have a relationship with God, you have a relationship with argumentative Stu, so you don't understand what spirit born believers are talking about.Colter
If I may so interject………first let us establish what God you serve is your God male or female? Do you have just one God or many God's combined to make one?April 19, 2012 at 4:11 am#293392Proclaimer
ParticipantQuote (Stu @ April 19 2012,03:42) Which would all be fine except that you don't appear to have consulted a dictionary on this subject either.
Stu you are an Atheist because you BELIEVE that there is no God. The bible calls Atheists by the title “Fool”.“A theist and an atheist both believe. One believes that there is a God and the other believes that there is no God. An Agnostic neither believes nor disbelieves in the existence of a God.
- Theist
- Atheist
- Agnostic
Here is how scripture basically says it.
- Believer
- Fool
- No belief either way due to a lack of care or lack of understanding