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T8,
I am limited on my time and most of these are poorly argued with a mix of hearsay, speculation, suspect evidence, poor quality evidence, and a bit of solid evidence.
If you see a point that seems powerful then post it and perhaps it will be tested.
I thought his ideas about 'seed' and how that relates to Jesus, Satan, man, and woman.
Again the whole idea about the sons of God coming to the woman of men and producing offspring called the Nephilim is interesting and little discussed by Believers.
The idea that the Mark of the Beast means you are damned and that one of the curses or horrors they find themselves in is that they cannot die in those days even when they seek death.
The fact that we are in an age of Genetic Engineering and what that means and what things may come from this science.
Quite a lot of other points too.
Quote (t8 @ May 01 2013,05:06) I thought his ideas about 'seed' and how that relates to Jesus, Satan, man, and woman. Again the whole idea about the sons of God coming to the woman of men and producing offspring called the Nephilim is interesting and little discussed by Believers.
The idea that the Mark of the Beast means you are damned and that one of the curses or horrors they find themselves in is that they cannot die in those days even when they seek death.
The fact that we are in an age of Genetic Engineering and what that means and what things may come from this science.
Quite a lot of other points too.
T8,I believe the Nephilim existed but I also believe they were the hybrid offspring of Cain's line and Seth's line.
The mark of the beast is the sinful nature as those like it act like Brute beasts. There may come to be an outward mark as well.
Quote (kerwin @ May 01 2013,22:05) I believe the Nephilim existed but I also believe they were the hybrid offspring of Cain's line and Seth's line.
The video mentions that interpretation and says that the guy who first proposed it pulled it out of thin air and in addition to that, it doesn't line up with scripture and he gave some reasons why.However, I didn't pay much attention to the video on that subject because I didn't believe that view anyway.
Quote (kerwin @ May 01 2013,22:05) The mark of the beast is the sinful nature as those like it act like Brute beasts. There may come to be an outward mark as well.
Highly speculative, but then again most other views are speculative including the one in the video.Quote (t8 @ May 01 2013,21:59) Quote (kerwin @ May 01 2013,22:05) The mark of the beast is the sinful nature as those like it act like Brute beasts. There may come to be an outward mark as well.
Highly speculative, but then again most other views are speculative including the one in the video.
I thought it was really good until I kept watching.
Interesting view though. It would make a good movie.Quote (t8 @ May 01 2013,16:57) Quote (kerwin @ May 01 2013,22:05) I believe the Nephilim existed but I also believe they were the hybrid offspring of Cain's line and Seth's line.
The video mentions that interpretation and says that the guy who first proposed it pulled it out of thin air and in addition to that, it doesn't line up with scripture and he gave some reasons why.However, I didn't pay much attention to the video on that subject because I didn't believe that view anyway.
T8,I doubt it as I came by it by believing that Jesus taught us that angels do not marry nor are they given in marriage. I then test the idea to see if Scripture supported it.
The Targum Onkelos said to be authored in either the last two thirds of the First Century or the fist third of the Second Century translates it as “sons of rulers”. Other Targrums use similar wording. So the claim of the movies spokesman is false.
Quote (journey42 @ May 02 2013,06:27) I thought it was really good until I kept watching.
Interesting view though. It would make a good movie.
Yes it seems far out to our reality at the moment, but I know this, the truth will be far out no matter how it unfolds.- Men seek death and cannot find it.
- Armies attack the returning Christ as if he was some kind of enemy coming from the heavens. How weird to pick a fight with him. What is it that they believe him to be?
- Today we have the ability to change the DNA of humans, animals, and plants, and live in wicked times. God destroyed the first world for the same reasons. As in the days of Noah…
- Our money system is failing. It is based on debt and is now mostly digital. Scripture says that no one can buy, sell, or save, lest he who had the Mark of the Beast. Scripture also talks about how the rich will wail when their gold fails in the last days. Something seems to be afoot here and changes need to be made to the world's money system before it collapses. Even the previous Pope made the plea for the system to change. Strange thing about scripture is it says that it will be the False Prophet that makes the mark available. Look for it to collapse and some point and be replaced. Hard to believe, yet has happened on a smaller scale many times before. Once before WWII in Germany before Antichrist Hitler rose to power.
- Scripture says there will be signs in the Heavens, clouds, etc. Youtube what us usually thought of as UFOs, but are likely deceptions or even legit manifestations of spirits.
I don't care how much people downplay what will happen in the last days, it will be bizarre one way or another. Expect the unexpected.
And the truth is always stranger than fiction.
But we will not be in darkness to those times.
T8,
There some evidence of Caucasian looking Red Haired giants in the North America before and after Europeans arrived. Some were said to be cannibals. There is said to be a scull in some obscure museum.
Quote (t8 @ May 01 2013,16:59) Quote (kerwin @ May 01 2013,22:05) The mark of the beast is the sinful nature as those like it act like Brute beasts. There may come to be an outward mark as well.
Highly speculative, but then again most other views are speculative including the one in the video.
T8.Not really as there is enough Scriptural support to make it an hypothesis. For instance Jude stated certain men who chose to live by the flesh were as brute beasts, Jude 1:10-11. Peter does the same in 2 Peter 2:12. That seems enough evidence to support my first statement.
My last statement is admitting I lack knowledge beyond that reasonable hypothesis.
the beast are so called in my understanding FOR THE LIVE ACCORDING TO THE FLESH AND SO HAVE NO REGARDS FOR THE SPIRIT OF TRUE AND WILL OF GOD ,
Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 01 2013,06:10) the beast are so called in my understanding FOR THE LIVE ACCORDING TO THE FLESH AND SO HAVE NO REGARDS FOR THE SPIRIT OF TRUE AND WILL OF GOD ,
T,I agree that certain men are as beast as they live according to the flesh and have no regard for the things of the spirit.
I believe the reasons for the scriptures to call the nations (group of number of people ) BEASTS is that as a group they grow to be in their savagery ,like wild beasts ,and so have become one entity in it with the beast of the earth ,and so have fallen just as Satan and his angels ,down grade from where they were standing in honor ,
Good point terr.
And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling–these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.
The word 'dwelling' or 'habitation' is mentioned one other time and is in relation to the body in another scripture which I cannot remember right now. Hence a downgrade because they took on bodies that allowed them to have relations with women and produce the Nephilim.
Is mentioned in this video.
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