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Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 26 2013,05:26) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 26 2013,01:51) Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 22 2013,19:11) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 23 2013,03:05) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 21 2013,16:34) MikeB. THAT SERVANT HAPPENS TO BE GOD, HIS OWN WORD.
Can't you see ho nonsensical those words are, Wakeup?A servant OF God is also “God”?
That's simple Mike,God gives the command, and his Word OBEYS.
journey,You are asserting the same thing as Wakeup, which makes your assertion as nonsensical as his.
If the Word OBEYS God, then the Word can't possibly BE God.
MikeThe Word WAS God. USED TO BE GOD. He brought his Word out and gave it a form, an IMAGE of himself.
God didn't transform himself, but transformed HIS WORD into the man Jesus Christ when he came into the world.
You are blocked still.
j42your question is answered in my quote ,why do you not read it
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 26 2013,01:56) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 23 2013,04:32) When God was: before all creation started;
Did he have a brain to think?
I don't know if God has a literal “brain” like we have….. but YES, God was able to think before He created His first work – which was His Son Jesus.
MikeB.I should have used the word *MIND*;may God have mercy.
1. You agreed that before creation; God was all by himself.
2. He had a MIND. *(the Word was God)**(still in his mind)*.
3.He used his THINKING to Plan
what to do, and how to do it.4. Now He speaks: His Word came out.*(the Word was with
God)*.5.*In the beginning was the Word*.
The fact here is; that we can not fathom, that God can project out his Word into His own image.
He communicated; from Mind to Word.
What God, in His Mind wants done; the Word did.wakeup.
W
Quote The fact here is; that we can not fathom, that God can project out his Word into His own image.
He communicated; from Mind to Word.
What God, in His Mind wants done; the Word did.ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL US THAT GOD IS A MAGICIAN
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 26 2013,16:50) W Quote The fact here is; that we can not fathom, that God can project out his Word into His own image.
He communicated; from Mind to Word.
What God, in His Mind wants done; the Word did.ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL US THAT GOD IS A MAGICIAN
T.Can you speak with wisdom instead of just silly talk?
God created things from nothing,and you call him a magician?
May be to you he is.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2013,14:40) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 26 2013,16:50) W Quote The fact here is; that we can not fathom, that God can project out his Word into His own image.
He communicated; from Mind to Word.
What God, in His Mind wants done; the Word did.ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL US THAT GOD IS A MAGICIAN
T.Can you speak with wisdom instead of just silly talk?
God created things from nothing,and you call him a magician?
May be to you he is.wakeup.
WYOU ARE MORE IGNORANT THAN I THOUGHT YOU WERE ;
GOD DID NOT CREATED ANYTHING FROM NOTHING ;
BECAUSE HIS FIRST CREATION COMES FROM HIMSELF ;WHAT WE UNDERSTAND IS HIS SON “THE WORD” THAT WILL BECOME “JESUS CHRIST ” THE LAMB”
ALL OTHERS THINGS CAME THROUGH THE SON “JESUS CHRIST “
STOP FOLLOWING BABYLON YOU HAVE SINK IN IT TILL YOUR NECK ;GET OUT OF IT
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2013,06:30) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2013,14:40) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 26 2013,16:50) W Quote The fact here is; that we can not fathom, that God can project out his Word into His own image.
He communicated; from Mind to Word.
What God, in His Mind wants done; the Word did.ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL US THAT GOD IS A MAGICIAN
T.Can you speak with wisdom instead of just silly talk?
God created things from nothing,and you call him a magician?
May be to you he is.wakeup.
WYOU ARE MORE IGNORANT THAN I THOUGHT YOU WERE ;
GOD DID NOT CREATED ANYTHING FROM NOTHING ;
BECAUSE HIS FIRST CREATION COMES FROM HIMSELF ;WHAT WE UNDERSTAND IS HIS SON “THE WORD” THAT WILL BECOME “JESUS CHRIST ” THE LAMB”
ALL OTHERS THINGS CAME THROUGH THE SON “JESUS CHRIST “
STOP FOLLOWING BABYLON YOU HAVE SINK IN IT TILL YOUR NECK ;GET OUT OF IT
T.Quote GOD DID NOT CREATED ANYTHING FROM NOTHING ; It is a hard task to teach babes on the breast.
WITHOUT HIM,WAS **NOT ANYTHING** MADE THAT WAS MADE.
NOT ANYTHING=NOTHING.You want to argue about that?
Why dont you say that it was also added on by some scribes.
To try to slitter away.wakeup.
The title of this topic, “Eternal past existence of the son” is an oxymoron.
The definition of the word 'son' means that there is a Father/Originator. Thus, if the son was eternal and co-equal, he would not be a son, except for a brief time when he came in the flesh. But he is back to where he was, thus he would not be the son now. But he is.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,02:35) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2013,06:30) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2013,14:40) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 26 2013,16:50) W Quote The fact here is; that we can not fathom, that God can project out his Word into His own image.
He communicated; from Mind to Word.
What God, in His Mind wants done; the Word did.ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL US THAT GOD IS A MAGICIAN
T.Can you speak with wisdom instead of just silly talk?
God created things from nothing,and you call him a magician?
May be to you he is.wakeup.
WYOU ARE MORE IGNORANT THAN I THOUGHT YOU WERE ;
GOD DID NOT CREATED ANYTHING FROM NOTHING ;
BECAUSE HIS FIRST CREATION COMES FROM HIMSELF ;WHAT WE UNDERSTAND IS HIS SON “THE WORD” THAT WILL BECOME “JESUS CHRIST ” THE LAMB”
ALL OTHERS THINGS CAME THROUGH THE SON “JESUS CHRIST “
STOP FOLLOWING BABYLON YOU HAVE SINK IN IT TILL YOUR NECK ;GET OUT OF IT
T.Quote GOD DID NOT CREATED ANYTHING FROM NOTHING ; It is a hard task to teach babes on the breast.
WITHOUT HIM,WAS **NOT ANYTHING** MADE THAT WAS MADE.
NOT ANYTHING=NOTHING.You want to argue about that?
Why dont you say that it was also added on by some scribes.
To try to slitter away.wakeup.
WARE YOU TRYING TO TELL ME THAT THEIR IS NO GOD
Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 25 2013,17:26) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 26 2013,01:51)
If the Word OBEYS God, then the Word can't possibly BE God.
MikeThe Word WAS God. USED TO BE GOD. He brought his Word out and gave it a form, an IMAGE of himself.
God didn't transform himself, but transformed HIS WORD into the man Jesus Christ when he came into the world.
You are blocked still.
So when all things were created by God, and through His Word, was the Word at that time still God Himself? Or was the Word a DIFFERENT being who OBEYED God Himself?Which one?
Quote (t8 @ Dec. 26 2013,17:38) The title of this topic, “Eternal past existence of the son” is an oxymoron. The definition of the word 'son' means that there is a Father/Originator. Thus, if the son was eternal and co-equal, he would not be a son……………
Agreed.Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 25 2013,22:08) MikeB. 1. You agreed that before creation; God was all by himself.
2. He had a MIND.
3.He used his THINKING to Plan
what to do, and how to do it.4. Now He speaks: His Word came out.*(the Word was with
God)*.5.*In the beginning was the Word*.
I'm good with 1, 2, 3, and 5.So explain #4 to me………… Are you saying that God, who has His own mind, spoke, and the Word that came out of His mouth all of a sudden had a mind of ITS OWN, completely separate from the mind of God?
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 27 2013,11:03) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 25 2013,22:08) MikeB. 1. You agreed that before creation; God was all by himself.
2. He had a MIND.
3.He used his THINKING to Plan
what to do, and how to do it.4. Now He speaks: His Word came out.*(the Word was with
God)*.5.*In the beginning was the Word*.
I'm good with 1, 2, 3, and 5.So explain #4 to me………… Are you saying that God, who has His own mind, spoke, and the Word that came out of His mouth all of a sudden had a mind of ITS OWN, completely separate from the mind of God?
Mikeb.It is not like what you are saying.
God had made a decision to start creating.
He brought forth his living Word out of Himself.
And gave Him his express image.
**(now the Word was with God)**.
This was his plan from the beginning. And created all things through Him.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,08:07) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 27 2013,11:03) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 25 2013,22:08) MikeB. 1. You agreed that before creation; God was all by himself.
2. He had a MIND.
3.He used his THINKING to Plan
what to do, and how to do it.4. Now He speaks: His Word came out.*(the Word was with
God)*.5.*In the beginning was the Word*.
I'm good with 1, 2, 3, and 5.So explain #4 to me………… Are you saying that God, who has His own mind, spoke, and the Word that came out of His mouth all of a sudden had a mind of ITS OWN, completely separate from the mind of God?
Mikeb.It is not like what you are saying.
God had made a decision to start creating.
He brought forth his living Word out of Himself.
And gave Him his express image.
**(now the Word was with God)**.
This was his plan from the beginning. And created all things through Him.wakeup.
wQuote God had made a decision to start creating. how do you know
where you there Quote He brought forth his living Word out of Himself. how do you know
where you there Quote And gave Him his express image.
**(now the Word was with God)**.how do you know
was his spoken words not with him before he said them why??? if your answer is “NO”Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2013,12:05) DOES IT TAKE A MORON TO MAKE AN OXY
I am guessing that moron in oxymoron means moron.
Quote (t8 @ Dec. 27 2013,09:07) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2013,12:05) DOES IT TAKE A MORON TO MAKE AN OXY
I am guessing that moron in oxymoron means moron.
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2013,13:48) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,08:07) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 27 2013,11:03) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 25 2013,22:08) MikeB. 1. You agreed that before creation; God was all by himself.
2. He had a MIND.
3.He used his THINKING to Plan
what to do, and how to do it.4. Now He speaks: His Word came out.*(the Word was with
God)*.5.*In the beginning was the Word*.
I'm good with 1, 2, 3, and 5.So explain #4 to me………… Are you saying that God, who has His own mind, spoke, and the Word that came out of His mouth all of a sudden had a mind of ITS OWN, completely separate from the mind of God?
Mikeb.It is not like what you are saying.
God had made a decision to start creating.
He brought forth his living Word out of Himself.
And gave Him his express image.
**(now the Word was with God)**.
This was his plan from the beginning. And created all things through Him.wakeup.
wQuote God had made a decision to start creating. how do you know
where you there Quote He brought forth his living Word out of Himself. how do you know
where you there Quote And gave Him his express image.
**(now the Word was with God)**.how do you know
was his spoken words not with him before he said them why??? if your answer is “NO”
T.How do you know Jesus?
Were you there?
You must belong to the mob throwing stones,
and mocking Jesus.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,12:19) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2013,13:48) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,08:07) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 27 2013,11:03) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 25 2013,22:08) MikeB. 1. You agreed that before creation; God was all by himself.
2. He had a MIND.
3.He used his THINKING to Plan
what to do, and how to do it.4. Now He speaks: His Word came out.*(the Word was with
God)*.5.*In the beginning was the Word*.
I'm good with 1, 2, 3, and 5.So explain #4 to me………… Are you saying that God, who has His own mind, spoke, and the Word that came out of His mouth all of a sudden had a mind of ITS OWN, completely separate from the mind of God?
Mikeb.It is not like what you are saying.
God had made a decision to start creating.
He brought forth his living Word out of Himself.
And gave Him his express image.
**(now the Word was with God)**.
This was his plan from the beginning. And created all things through Him.wakeup.
wQuote God had made a decision to start creating. how do you know
where you there Quote He brought forth his living Word out of Himself. how do you know
where you there Quote And gave Him his express image.
**(now the Word was with God)**.how do you know
was his spoken words not with him before he said them why??? if your answer is “NO”
T.How do you know Jesus?
Were you there?
You must belong to the mob throwing stones,
and mocking Jesus.wakeup.
WMY REASON FOR SAYING THIS IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT PLACED ONE SINGLE SCRIPTURE TO BACK UP YOUR STORY ,AND I DO NOT RECALL READING IN SCRIPTURES ,YOUR VIEW ,
BUT I HAVE ALWAYS BACKUP MY VIEW WITH SCRIPTURES
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2013,20:07) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 27 2013,11:03) Are you saying that God, who has His own mind, spoke, and the Word that came out of His mouth all of a sudden had a mind of ITS OWN, completely separate from the mind of God?
Mikeb.It is not like what you are saying.
God had made a decision to start creating.
He brought forth his living Word out of Himself.
And gave Him his express image.
**(now the Word was with God)**.
This was his plan from the beginning. And created all things through Him.wakeup.
Your explanation tells me that it IS like what I'm saying, after all.Your understanding still requires God, who had His own mind, speaking a word out of Himself. And that word he spoke all of a sudden had HIS OWN mind – that was SEPARATE from the mind of God.
No matter how you word it, your understanding calls for something that USED TO BE God Almighty Himself becoming a different entity who is no longer God Almighty Himself.
Strange brew, Wakeup. I'll have no part in it.
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2013,01:55) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,12:19) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2013,13:48) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,08:07) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 27 2013,11:03) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 25 2013,22:08) MikeB. 1. You agreed that before creation; God was all by himself.
2. He had a MIND.
3.He used his THINKING to Plan
what to do, and how to do it.4. Now He speaks: His Word came out.*(the Word was with
God)*.5.*In the beginning was the Word*.
I'm good with 1, 2, 3, and 5.So explain #4 to me………… Are you saying that God, who has His own mind, spoke, and the Word that came out of His mouth all of a sudden had a mind of ITS OWN, completely separate from the mind of God?
Mikeb.It is not like what you are saying.
God had made a decision to start creating.
He brought forth his living Word out of Himself.
And gave Him his express image.
**(now the Word was with God)**.
This was his plan from the beginning. And created all things through Him.wakeup.
wQuote God had made a decision to start creating. how do you know
where you there Quote He brought forth his living Word out of Himself. how do you know
where you there Quote And gave Him his express image.
**(now the Word was with God)**.how do you know
was his spoken words not with him before he said them why??? if your answer is “NO”
T.How do you know Jesus?
Were you there?
You must belong to the mob throwing stones,
and mocking Jesus.wakeup.
WMY REASON FOR SAYING THIS IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT PLACED ONE SINGLE SCRIPTURE TO BACK UP YOUR STORY ,AND I DO NOT RECALL READING IN SCRIPTURES ,YOUR VIEW ,
BUT I HAVE ALWAYS BACKUP MY VIEW WITH SCRIPTURES
T.Where is your scripture now?
There are no scriptures regarding the creation of angels,
And of the four beast, and all the mansions.Can you show us?
wakeup.
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