Eternal past existence of the son

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  • #368436
    Wakeup
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    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 25 2014,14:59)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 25 2014,09:32)
    T.

    Jas 3:11.??
    You mean jms.3:11.

    wakeup.


    W

    JAMES 3;11  :D


    T.

    A clean fountain gives clean water.
    God's fountain of spiritual water gives life.

    GOD *IS NOT* EVIL;BUT HE *CAN DO* EVIL FOR THE GOOD
    OF MEN. HE CAN DO AS HE PLEASES.
    WHO CAN DISAGREE WITH HIM?
    ARE ALL THINGS NOT HIS? CREATED FOR HIMSELF?
    CAN ANYONE TELL HIM HOW HE SHOULD WORK OUT HIS PLAN? IS THERE ANYONE WISER THAN HIM?
    GOD CREATED EVIL FOR OUR OWN BENEFIT.
    WITHOUT SUFFERINGS, WE DONT NEED GOD,AND WE WILL NEVER KNOW GOD.PEOPLE ONLY COME TO GOD WHEN THINGS GO WRONG IN LIFE. BUT WHEN THINGS ARE ALL GREAT;GOD IS PUT ON THE BACK BURNER.

    wakeup.

    #368466
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 25 2014,17:11)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 25 2014,14:59)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 25 2014,09:32)
    T.

    Jas 3:11.??
    You mean jms.3:11.

    wakeup.


    W

    JAMES 3;11  :D


    T.

    A clean fountain gives clean water.
    God's fountain of spiritual water gives life.

    GOD *IS NOT* EVIL;BUT HE *CAN DO* EVIL FOR THE GOOD
    OF MEN. HE CAN DO AS HE PLEASES.
    WHO CAN DISAGREE WITH HIM?
    ARE ALL THINGS NOT HIS? CREATED FOR HIMSELF?
    CAN ANYONE TELL HIM HOW HE SHOULD WORK OUT HIS PLAN? IS THERE ANYONE WISER THAN HIM?
    GOD CREATED EVIL FOR OUR OWN BENEFIT.
    WITHOUT SUFFERINGS, WE DONT NEED GOD,AND WE WILL NEVER KNOW GOD.PEOPLE ONLY COME TO GOD WHEN THINGS GO WRONG IN LIFE. BUT WHEN THINGS ARE ALL GREAT;GOD IS PUT ON THE BACK BURNER.

    wakeup.


    ANSWER MY QUESTION ,NO DEVIATION PLEASE

    #368470
    Wakeup
    Participant

    T.

    Your question I have answered,but you can not understand.
    1.God is the fountain of clear water,and out of God comes only clear water.
    2.God *can do* everything according His will.
    3.Can do,can do,can do.
    4.This does not mean that God is evil;because He CAN DO.

    wakeup.

    #368478
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 26 2014,05:01)
    T.

    Your question I have answered,but you can not understand.
    1.God is the fountain of clear water,and out of God comes only clear water.
    2.God *can do* everything according His will.
    3.Can do,can do,can do.
    4.This does not mean that God is evil;because He CAN DO.

    wakeup.


    W

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    3.Can do,can do,can do.

    YOU ALREADY CONTRADICT YOURSELF WITH YOUR NUMBER 1) STATEMENT ;

    IF GOD ONLY PRODUCE CLEAR WATER THEN “HE” CANNOT PRODUCE DIRTY WATERS

    RIGHT ;IT AS NOTHING TO DO WITH POWER BUT WITH WHAT YOU ARE ;

    #368480
    journey42
    Participant

    terraricca,Jan. wrote:

    [/quote]

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    YOU ALREADY CONTRADICT YOURSELF WITH YOUR NUMBER 1) STATEMENT ;

    IF GOD ONLY PRODUCE CLEAR WATER THEN “HE” CANNOT PRODUCE DIRTY WATERS

    RIGHT ;IT AS NOTHING TO DO WITH POWER BUT WITH WHAT YOU ARE ;


    Pierre

    The clear water God gives represents truth.
    God can only give clear, clean, fresh water (truth)
    Whether God reveals to us good things or bad things, it's still all truth, clear water.
    But if we are deceived, then we are not drinking that water that comes from God, but from a different source,
    a source of water that God did not give, because it is contaminated, and comes from someone else (guess who)
    And if we drink too much of this dirty water, then we are standing in muddy waters.  It's not alive and flowing, but stagnant, going nowhere.

    #368483
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 26 2014,06:40)

    terraricca,Jan. wrote:

    [/quote]

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    YOU ALREADY CONTRADICT YOURSELF WITH YOUR NUMBER 1) STATEMENT ;

    IF GOD ONLY PRODUCE CLEAR WATER THEN “HE” CANNOT PRODUCE DIRTY WATERS

    RIGHT ;IT AS NOTHING TO DO WITH POWER BUT WITH WHAT YOU ARE ;


    Pierre

    The clear water God gives represents truth.
    God can only give clear, clean, fresh water (truth)
    Whether God reveals to us good things or bad things, it's still all truth, clear water.
    But if we are deceived, then we are not drinking that water that comes from God, but from a different source,
    a source of water that God did not give, because it is contaminated, and comes from someone else (guess who)
    And if we drink too much of this dirty water, then we are standing in muddy waters.  It's not alive and flowing, but stagnant, going nowhere.


    J42

    YOU HAVE NOT TEACH ME ANYTHING NEW; BUT IF YOU SAY THAT,GOD CAN ONLY PRODUCE CLEAR WATER ) THEN HOW COULD GOD BE THE SOURCE OF EVIL ??? THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW .

    #368486
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2014,10:57)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 26 2014,05:01)
    T.

    Your question I have answered,but you can not understand.
    1.God is the fountain of clear water,and out of God comes only clear water.
    2.God *can do* everything according His will.
    3.Can do,can do,can do.
    4.This does not mean that God is evil;because He CAN DO.

    wakeup.


    W

    Quote
    3.Can do,can do,can do.

    YOU ALREADY CONTRADICT YOURSELF WITH YOUR NUMBER 1) STATEMENT ;

    IF GOD ONLY PRODUCE CLEAR WATER THEN “HE” CANNOT PRODUCE DIRTY WATERS

    RIGHT ;IT AS NOTHING TO DO WITH POWER BUT WITH WHAT YOU ARE ;


    T.

    God said:he caused the flood. *Truth*.
    God said:he destroyed sodom and gomorah. *Truth*.
    God said He will destroy Babylon the great. *Truth*.
    Only *truth* can come from God.
    God said He will destroy jerusalem(70ad). *Truth*
    His Word is truth.
    If he says he created evil is also the *truth*.
    God created the father of evil. *truth*

    wakeup.

    #368489
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 26 2014,08:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2014,10:57)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 26 2014,05:01)
    T.

    Your question I have answered,but you can not understand.
    1.God is the fountain of clear water,and out of God comes only clear water.
    2.God *can do* everything according His will.
    3.Can do,can do,can do.
    4.This does not mean that God is evil;because He CAN DO.

    wakeup.


    W

    Quote
    3.Can do,can do,can do.

    YOU ALREADY CONTRADICT YOURSELF WITH YOUR NUMBER 1) STATEMENT ;

    IF GOD ONLY PRODUCE CLEAR WATER THEN “HE” CANNOT PRODUCE DIRTY WATERS

    RIGHT ;IT AS NOTHING TO DO WITH POWER BUT WITH WHAT YOU ARE ;


    T.

    God said:he caused the flood. *Truth*.
    God said:he destroyed sodom and gomorah. *Truth*.
    God said He will destroy Babylon the great.  *Truth*.
    Only *truth* can come from God.
    God said He will destroy jerusalem(70ad).  *Truth*
    His Word is truth.
    If he says he created evil is also the  *truth*.
    God created the father of evil.    *truth*

    wakeup.


    YOUR ANSWER DOES NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION

    #368492
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2014,14:01)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 26 2014,08:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2014,10:57)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 26 2014,05:01)
    T.

    Your question I have answered,but you can not understand.
    1.God is the fountain of clear water,and out of God comes only clear water.
    2.God *can do* everything according His will.
    3.Can do,can do,can do.
    4.This does not mean that God is evil;because He CAN DO.

    wakeup.


    W

    Quote
    3.Can do,can do,can do.

    YOU ALREADY CONTRADICT YOURSELF WITH YOUR NUMBER 1) STATEMENT ;

    IF GOD ONLY PRODUCE CLEAR WATER THEN “HE” CANNOT PRODUCE DIRTY WATERS

    RIGHT ;IT AS NOTHING TO DO WITH POWER BUT WITH WHAT YOU ARE ;


    T.

    God said:he caused the flood. *Truth*.
    God said:he destroyed sodom and gomorah. *Truth*.
    God said He will destroy Babylon the great.  *Truth*.
    Only *truth* can come from God.
    God said He will destroy jerusalem(70ad).  *Truth*
    His Word is truth.
    If he says he created evil is also the  *truth*.
    God created the father of evil.    *truth*

    wakeup.


    YOUR ANSWER DOES NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION


    T.

    If that does not explain,
    then what will explain?
    Then why can you not contradict what I have said?
    Why is there *silence* on your part.

    Just your opinions.
    I dont agree.
    You did not answer my question.
    You are wrong.
    You are a liar.
    You are a false teacher.
    JUST TO NAME A FEW OF YOUR STANDARD ANSWERES.

    But not say *why* the disagreement.

    wakeup.

    #368534
    terraricca
    Participant

    w

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    Just your opinions.
    I dont agree.
    You did not answer my question.
    You are wrong.
    You are a liar.
    You are a false teacher.
    JUST TO NAME A FEW OF YOUR STANDARD ANSWERES.

    But not say *why* the disagreement.

    wakeup.

    all this is to protect your corrupted version of the KJV not the truth of God ;i am sure you do not see the difference between them

    #368563
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 27 2014,03:50)
    w

    Quote
    Just your opinions.
    I dont agree.
    You did not answer my question.
    You are wrong.
    You are a liar.
    You are a false teacher.
    JUST TO NAME A FEW OF YOUR STANDARD ANSWERES.

    But not say *why* the disagreement.

    wakeup.

    all this is to protect your corrupted version of the KJV  not the truth of God ;i am sure you do not see the difference between them


    T.

    We dont want your opinions.
    We want scriptural facts.
    Anyone can say that we are wrong,but
    have no scriptures as back up.
    You simply can not, because it will only get you into a corner.

    wakeup.

    #368569
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 27 2014,08:45)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 27 2014,03:50)
    w

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    Just your opinions.
    I dont agree.
    You did not answer my question.
    You are wrong.
    You are a liar.
    You are a false teacher.
    JUST TO NAME A FEW OF YOUR STANDARD ANSWERES.

    But not say *why* the disagreement.

    wakeup.

    all this is to protect your corrupted version of the KJV  not the truth of God ;i am sure you do not see the difference between them


    T.

    We dont want your opinions.
    We want scriptural facts.
    Anyone can say that we are wrong,but
    have no scriptures as back up.
    You simply can not, because it will only get you into a corner.

    wakeup.


    W

    That,s ok it is all written in your quotes

    #368579
    Wakeup
    Participant

    T.

    That means you agree,and have no commend.

    wakeup.

    #368581
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 27 2014,12:18)
    T.

    That means you agree,and have no commend.

    wakeup.


    :D

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