ERRORS MADE,DURING THE CENTURIES,

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2012,18:33)

EdJ Correction: One has to grow first and than born. A fetus must grow first and then born. Not born again first and then grow; what if he never grows? For many of us have not grown.(never will). If one has changed his life to serving God ,he is BEGOTTEN of God. It is God that beget us: DRAWS US. No one can come to the father unless the father draws him. 1. BORN OF THE FLESH.(flesh). 2. BEGOTTEN OF GOD. GOD HAS DRAWN THE PERSON.    the person starts to seek,and will find knowledge. 3. RESURRECTION *BORN AGAIN* IN A NEW GLORIFIED BODY;LIKE THE ANGELS. FIRST BIRTH WAS FLESH.(out of mothers belly). SECOND BIRTH WILL BE SPIRIT.(out of Zions belly). IT IS SOWN A NATURAL BODY AND IT IS RAISED A SPIRITUAL BODY.THERE IS ANATURAL BODY AND THERE IS A SPIRITUAL BODY.(two kinds of bodies). wakeup.

So Christ changed Because he was Begotten ,this is confusing

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2012,14:22)

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2012,18:33) EdJ Correction: One has to grow first and than born. A fetus must grow first and then born. Not born again first and then grow; what if he never grows? For many of us have not grown.(never will). If one has changed his life to serving God ,he is BEGOTTEN of God. It is God that beget us: DRAWS US. No one can come to the father unless the father draws him. 1. BORN OF THE FLESH.(flesh). 2. BEGOTTEN OF GOD. GOD HAS DRAWN THE PERSON.    the person starts to seek,and will find knowledge. 3. RESURRECTION *BORN AGAIN* IN A NEW GLORIFIED BODY;LIKE THE ANGELS. FIRST BIRTH WAS FLESH.(out of mothers belly). SECOND BIRTH WILL BE SPIRIT.(out of Zions belly). IT IS SOWN A NATURAL BODY AND IT IS RAISED A SPIRITUAL BODY.THERE IS ANATURAL BODY AND THERE IS A SPIRITUAL BODY.(two kinds of bodies). wakeup. So Christ changed Because he was Begotten ,this is confusing

Terra.

Christ did not change,because he was begotten from the whomb. He never experienced the renewing of the mind,because he loved his father from the beginning.

I never loved God from the beginning and same with you.
I started when I was 3o; my mind was renewd,but I am not made spirit yet,untill the resurrection.

wakeup.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 27 2012,09:51)

Hi Wakeup, How does one being baptized with the Holy Spirit fit into your scheme then? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ.

Sorry I kinda missed your questtion.

There are two kinds of babtism:
1.Babtism in water, this is done by the pastors or preachers(humans).most of the time wolfs in sheeps clothing.

Anybody can come and be babtised in water:they even babtise pet animals now.

2 Babtised with the Holy spirit; this is when the Holy spirit enters a person; the person starts crying and praising God.
Like a child. Submerged in the Holy spirit.

3. Jesus was babtised in water, and at the same time babtised with the Holy spirit.

Being babtised with the Holy spirit does not mean one becomes spirit.Dont be in a hurry;wait for the resurrection.

Those preachers are smooth talkers;sooth sayers in action.

wakeup.

One is not only babtised by the Holy spirit ones,because the Holy spirit come to visit every now and again,just for a few seconds.This is the visitation.

[Ed J]

Hi Wakeup,

Are you going to answer my question now?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2012,12:46)

Hi Wakeup, Are you going to answer my question now? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Edj.

In that case;be more precise with your question.
What fit into what.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Hi Wakeup,

How does one being baptized with the Holy Spirit fit into your scheme
that “Born Again” means (according to you) the resurrection from physical death?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2012,13:01)

Hi Wakeup, How does one being baptized with the Holy Spirit fit into your scheme that “Born Again” means (according to you) the resurrection from physical death? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ.

I dont see any problem in fitting it in,can you?
All the resurrected are obviouly them that have been babtised with the Holy spirit.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2012,14:47)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2012,13:01) Hi Wakeup, How does one being baptized with the Holy Spirit fit into your scheme that “Born Again” means (according to you) the resurrection from physical death? God bless Ed J EDJ. I dont see any problem in fitting it in,can you? All the resurrected are obviouly them that have been babtised with the Holy spirit. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

So why don't you believe that being baptized with the Holy Spirit is our being “Born Again”?
Also based on this last post, what about those of the second resurrection?
Keep in mind that my first question is the one I want you to elaborate on.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 28 2012,11:14)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2012,14:22) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2012,18:33) EdJ Correction: One has to grow first and than born. A fetus must grow first and then born. Not born again first and then grow; what if he never grows? For many of us have not grown.(never will). If one has changed his life to serving God ,he is BEGOTTEN of God. It is God that beget us: DRAWS US. No one can come to the father unless the father draws him. 1. BORN OF THE FLESH.(flesh). 2. BEGOTTEN OF GOD. GOD HAS DRAWN THE PERSON.    the person starts to seek,and will find knowledge. 3. RESURRECTION *BORN AGAIN* IN A NEW GLORIFIED BODY;LIKE THE ANGELS. FIRST BIRTH WAS FLESH.(out of mothers belly). SECOND BIRTH WILL BE SPIRIT.(out of Zions belly). IT IS SOWN A NATURAL BODY AND IT IS RAISED A SPIRITUAL BODY.THERE IS ANATURAL BODY AND THERE IS A SPIRITUAL BODY.(two kinds of bodies). wakeup. So Christ changed Because he was Begotten ,this is confusing   Terra. Christ did not change,because he was begotten from the whomb. He never experienced the renewing of the mind,because he loved his father from the beginning. I never loved God from the beginning and same with you. I started when I was 3o; my mind was renewd,but I am not made spirit yet,untill the resurrection. wakeup.

wup

then what you say does not make sens and it seems you do not know what you are talking about ,

[Wakeup]

Terra.

I am not surprised that it does not make any sense to you.
You have to start from the bottom.You have been drunken with the wrong wine for too long.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2012,21:12)

Terra. I am not surprised that it does not make any sense to you. You have to start from the bottom.You have been drunken with the wrong wine for too long. wakeup.

it is your comment that causes the problem not mine sonny

look back and see how many quotes with opinions you have quoted on this site ,

and still keep doing it ,you do not care about truth only your own agenda ,no glory for God or Christ only for WAKEUP, well its about time now you are waking up

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 31 2012,03:09)

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2012,21:12) Terra. I am not surprised that it does not make any sense to you. You have to start from the bottom.You have been drunken with the wrong wine for too long. wakeup. it is your comment that causes the problem not mine sonny look back and see how many quotes with opinions you have quoted on this site , and still keep doing it ,you do not care about truth only your own agenda ,no glory for God or Christ only for WAKEUP, well its about time now you are waking up

Terra.

I invite you to squash my opinion if you can.

wakkeup.

[Wakeup]

No can do,but still very loud.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 28 2012,11:14)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2012,14:22) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2012,18:33) EdJ Correction: One has to grow first and than born. A fetus must grow first and then born. Not born again first and then grow; what if he never grows? For many of us have not grown.(never will). If one has changed his life to serving God ,he is BEGOTTEN of God. It is God that beget us: DRAWS US. No one can come to the father unless the father draws him. 1. BORN OF THE FLESH.(flesh). 2. BEGOTTEN OF GOD. GOD HAS DRAWN THE PERSON.    the person starts to seek,and will find knowledge. 3. RESURRECTION *BORN AGAIN* IN A NEW GLORIFIED BODY;LIKE THE ANGELS. FIRST BIRTH WAS FLESH.(out of mothers belly). SECOND BIRTH WILL BE SPIRIT.(out of Zions belly). IT IS SOWN A NATURAL BODY AND IT IS RAISED A SPIRITUAL BODY.THERE IS ANATURAL BODY AND THERE IS A SPIRITUAL BODY.(two kinds of bodies). wakeup. So Christ changed Because he was Begotten ,this is confusing   Terra. Christ did not change,because he was begotten from the whomb. He never experienced the renewing of the mind,because he loved his father from the beginning. I never loved God from the beginning and same with you. I started when I was 3o; my mind was renewd,but I am not made spirit yet,untill the resurrection. wakeup.

this is what I refer to;

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If one has changed his life to serving God ,he is BEGOTTEN of God. It is God that beget us: DRAWS US. No one can come to the father unless the father draws him.

[Wakeup]

Terra.

Have you changed your mind.

You did not say begotten ,but born again.

Wakeup.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2012,12:22)

THE PREACHING OF ERROR,HAS MADE THE LAND DESOLATE. 1.BORN AGAIN,AT BABTINM 2.THE KINGDOM OF GOD,IS NOW. 3.BORN AGAIN WHEN RESURRECTED. 4.JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER. 5.JEHOVAH DIED. 6.THE BRIDE OF CHRIST,IS THE FLOCK AND WE ARE ALSO HIS CHILDREN? 7. THE SECOND COMING, HAS BEEN; OR CAN BE ANYTIME,IGNORING THE OLD PROPHESIES AND THE BOOK OF REVELATION. 8.ANTI CHRIST–NOT FALSE PROPHET,OR BOTH ANTI CHRIST AND FASE PROPHET. 9.ARMAGEDDON,SAME AS GOG AND MAGOG. 10.HEAVEN IS WHERE WE GO. 11.ALL NON CHRISTIANS OF ALL GENERATIONS WILL BE CAST IN THE FIRE AT THE COMING. 12.GOD WANTS US TO HAVE AN ABUNDANT LIFE TODAY. 13.JESUS DIED FOR ALL OUR SINS SO WE ARE ALL SINLESS,JUST DEPEND ON HIS NAME,WE DONT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING,WE HAVE THE TICKET TO HEAVEN. THIS IS WHY THE SPIRIT OF SLUMBER IS WITH THEM. SLEEP A PERPETUAL SLEEP,AND NEVER WAKE UP. IN THEIR HEAT I WILL MAKE THEIR FEASTS,AND I WILL MAKE THEM DRUNKEN,THAT THEY,MAY REJOICE,AND SLEEP A PERPETUAL SLEEP AND NOT WAKE SAITH THE LORD.(jer51:39). Perhaps j42 and Devo could add to the list. wakeup.

Just clarifying:

Regarding number one and three,on the list.
All christians believe number one and three,are both born again.

1.Born again at babtism:1x, born again.
2.And also born again in the resurrection.1more time born again.

That makes it BORN AGAIN, AND AGAIN.
And if the person falls away later in life; he can be born again if he repents. and it can go on and on.
************
Some dont believe that the resurrection is one being born again?
But why? Was not Jesus the first BORN FROM THE DEAD?

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2013,15:47)

Terra. Have you changed your mind. You did not say begotten ,but born again. Wakeup.

wup

this is why discussing with you is a waste of my time ,you do not even know what is your own written text,

and also devious in your answers ,

I have seen enough ,

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2013,08:23)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2013,15:47) Terra. Have you changed your mind. You did not say begotten ,but born again. Wakeup. wup this is why discussing with you is a waste of my time ,you do not even know what is your own written text, and also devious in your answers , I have seen enough ,

Terra.

The truth does hurt,but it is worth checking it out.
Look into the scriptures and put them all together,and you will see the truth,and you can pass it on.

We can not hang on to false doctrine; it will bring us down.
Be wise,and check it out anyway.
If my interpretation is wrong;it will show.
But I am 100% sure its accurate.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Are you not yet reborn from above?

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