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Quote (davidbfun @ July 31 2010,08:38) Quote (david @ July 31 2010,00:12) Quote However Spirit and YHVH are objects “of” Elohim….and cannot be names. And yet, YHVH appears to be God's name.
“I am Jehovah. That is my name;” (Is 42:8)
“Jehovah of armies being his name…” (Is 54:5)
“That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.” (Ps 83:18, King James)
You are wrong….his name is “Jealous”.Ex 34:14 —for you shall not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God—
Can't make up His mind.
You do know that the reason “LORD” is in capital letters is because they replaced God's name in that instance with “LORD” don't you?EXODUS 34:14
“For you must not prostrate yourself to another god, because Jehovah, whose name is Jealous*, he is a jealous God;”*Lit., “Jealous [is] his name.” Heb., Qan·na’′ shemoh′.
“Jealous” is a word used to describe his name.
“Jehovah” is a personal name used about 7000 times in scripture.Quote Gen 1:27 God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. God chooses to call himself “Father,” not “mother.”
What would you say to that.
Quote (davidbfun @ July 30 2010,17:55) Quote (david @ July 31 2010,00:12) Quote However Spirit and YHVH are objects “of” Elohim….and cannot be names. And yet, YHVH appears to be God's name.
“I am Jehovah. That is my name;” (Is 42:8)
“Jehovah of armies being his name…” (Is 54:5)
“That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.” (Ps 83:18, King James)
Is 54:5 “For your husband is your Maker, Whose name is the LORD of hosts;Who is the wife?
As usual you ask to stay in two verses and we get buck shot all over the place.
My comment was referring to the words in Gen 1:2 and 2:4 and the structure of those words…..not looking for a debate on who YHVH is.
DAVidBfun,You might not be looking for a debate on who YHVH is, and you may only want to discuss those 2 scriptures, however, your understanding of those two scriptures you were discussing was based on a false idea, that “Spirit and YHVH are objects “of” Elohim….and cannot be names.“
“I am Jehovah. That is my name;” (Is 42:8)
You say: YHVH cannot be a name.
Scripture says YHVH is his name. It's the most used name in HIS book. HIS name is used more often than all of HIS titles put together. It's used more often than FATHER, Creator, Lord, God, Almighty, etc COMBINED!This is what we would expect about HIS book, that HIS name, our FATHER'S name be mentioned often. And, it is.
So, anyway, this idea that Jehovah (YHVH) cannot be a name is absurd.
Quote Is 54:5 “For your husband is your Maker, Whose name is the LORD [substitution for “YHWH”] of hosts; Who is the wife?
In a figurative sense Jehovah spoke of Israel as his wife by reason of his covenant with the nation. (Isa 54:6)
Such language is not uncommon. The apostle Paul speaks of Jehovah as the Father of spirit-begotten Christians, and he speaks of “the Jerusalem above” as their mother, as though Jehovah were married to her for the purpose of bringing forth spirit-begotten Christians. (Ga 4:6, 7, 26) The Christian congregation is spoken of as the bride, or wife, of Jesus Christ.—Eph 5:23, 25; Re 19:7; 21:2, 9.
Quote (david @ July 31 2010,16:29) “Jehovah” is a personal name used about 7000 times in scripture.
Hi David,LOOK AT THE UNITY!
God’s Name (יהוה) is written EXACTLY 6823 times in the Hebrew Masoretic Texts. See how
The Gematria Value of Ιησους Χριστоς=2368 Ē-Ā-Soos Chrĭstŏs (Jesus Christ in Greek)
resembles the number of times God’s Name is used in the Hebrew Masoretic Texts.6823 is the 877th prime number in a long list of primes starting with two (2).
Now this might not seem significant until you realize that the number 877
is the 151st prime number. This number 151 shows “Unity” in Spirit.YHVH GOD is One=151 (Deut.6:4 / Eph.4:6)
The LORD JEHOVAH=151 (Isaiah 12:2, 26:4)
LORD of Hosts=151 (AKJV Bible)
Jesus Christ=151 (New Testament)
Holy Spirit=151 (Old & New Testament)Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (david @ July 30 2010,15:56) Quote Gen 1:2 says ורוח אלהים Spirit Elohim; but is translated God's Spirit Gen 2:4 says יהוה אלהים YHVH Elohim; and is translated LORD God. Why not translate in like manner and say God's YHVH?
Hi David,
Maybe you have things backwards. Why not ask the opposite question: “Why not translate in like manner and say “the spirit, God” ?If you don't like that “of” being in there, as in the spirit of God, why not translate it as it is: “and the spirit, God, was moving…”
“God is a spirit” after all, as the Bible says.
Davidbfun. How would you respond?Quote (david @ July 31 2010,16:45) wrong thread ed.
Hi David,Do you want to approximate truth?
I insist on telling “Bible Truth”=117!“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], and
the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (david @ July 31 2010,17:06) but isn't there a thread for your bible code stuff? You shouldn't be pushing it in other threads.
Hi David,Should you push approximations of truth,
while “Bible Truth” seems to bother you?Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgIt just bothers me that I'm trying to discuss what this thread is about, and you are hijacking and and essentially hiding my posts which I'd like responses to. That just means I have to repost them. You know ed, we can discuss this in the KJ thread. I've been posting there too. would that not make more sense?
Quote (david @ July 31 2010,17:21) It just bothers me that I'm trying to discuss what this thread is about, and you are hijacking and and essentially hiding my posts which I'd like responses to. That just means I have to repost them. You know ed, we can discuss this in the KJ thread. I've been posting there too. would that not make more sense?
Hi David,More accusations?
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd, this is not an accusation. It's a fact. A fact. You have “essentially” hidden my posts. I now have to repost them, because they are a page back. People often don't read more than a page back. What's bothering is that you've hidden them with this completely unrelated jibber jabber and continue to do so. Please stop talking about unrelated things in this thread.
Thankyou.
Quote (david @ July 31 2010,17:31) Ed, this is not an accusation. It's a fact. A fact. You have “essentially” hidden my posts. I now have to repost them, because they are a page back. People often don't read more than a page back. What's bothering is that you've hidden them with this completely unrelated jibber jabber and continue to do so. Please stop talking about unrelated things in this thread. Thankyou.
Hi David,I have in fact NOT hidden your Post!
Why do you falsely accuse me? (Exodus.20:16 / Deut.5:20)Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgI said “essentially.” I said it twice. Every time you and I make these posts, you accusing me of me accusing you, we are just fulfilling what I said you are doing. Watch them disappear in the distance.
Quote (david @ July 31 2010,17:54) I said “essentially.” I said it twice. Every time you and I make these posts, you accusing me of me accusing you, we are just fulfilling what I said you are doing. Watch them disappear in the distance.
Hi David,essentially: something that is essential
essential: something necessary, indispensable, or unavoidableThat's fine. I'll just repost all those other posts. Continue to do whatever you're doing and let me know when you are done Ed.
Davidbfun,
please ignore everything on pages 5 and 6. I'll just repeat the related stuff. Actually, that's a lot of work. Can you please just ignore all the whatever between ed and I and comment on my posts on page 5?
Quote (david @ July 31 2010,18:13) That's fine. I'll just repost all those other posts. Continue to do whatever you're doing and let me know when you are done Ed.
OKQuote (david @ July 31 2010,18:16) Davidbfun, please ignore everything on pages 5 and 6. I'll just repeat the related stuff. Actually, that's a lot of work. Can you please just ignore all the whatever between ed and I and comment on my posts on page 5?
Hi David,Why are you telling DavidBeFun what to do and who to ignore?
What makes you think you have the right to do that?
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