Elohim; has two essences – male and female

[terraricca]

Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 08 2010,11:18)

Quote (Baker @ Sep. 07 2010,07:54) Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 06 2010,05:24) Hello JA, I see that you think knowing God is nonsense. The thread is short and simple and maybe someone will actually address it and disprove what the Scriptures say: Elohim is translated as God in Gen 1:1 In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth. Elohim was talking and said, “Let US create Man in our image….” and He did: Gen 1:27 Elohim created man in His own image, in the image of Elohim He created him; male and female He created them.   Since we are created in God's image can ANYONE tell me what the male and female parts of Elohim are? It seems that everyone detests what is written about a part of Elohim being female.  There doesn't seem to lack any problem for one part being male, though. The two separate parts of Elohim are shown in Gen 1:2 Spirit Elohim and Gen 2:4 YHWH Elohim. JA, since you think this is nonsense, why did God Himself tell us about Himself being male and female?   Isn't this thread about “disproving” the information if you don't agree.  To me, this is the “time and place” for this subject. God said “let us”, meaning, the Father and the Son. God created man from the dust, then he took a rib from the man and made a help meet (Gen. 2:18) which Adam called “woman”, (from man, v. 21-23). Yes, I detest what you write about God being male and female. Is, what the Bible teaches you not good enough? The Bible also says, “thou shalt not add or take away”. God creates from nothing, he doesn't need a male or female body to do that. You call yourself “the professor”, what is it that you profess? Georg Georg, What you say is funny. Let me “agree” with you for a second and say that  the two talking was the Father and the Son.   Which one of them is “Female”? Actually you are the one detracting from the Bible by denying the Spirit being female.  YHWH is my obvious choice for being the male essence of Elohim. But the quote you are mentioning applied to Revelation…. Rev 22:18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; Georg,  I state the Bible verse and paste and copy so that the people don't have to look it up.  However, since I usually use the NASB people go and see what I quoted to their specific liking KJV or others. What I do write is from the Bible and I am sorry that YOU and OTHERS detest what is written….especially about God being male and female.  I think this is what women would call being a male chauvanistic…. You take what is written, detest and deny that it was even written, why? Elohim in the make-up of the word shows that God is feminine and masculine (plural).  Gen 1:27 confirms that this observation of Elohim is true. Gen 1:2 shows that Spirit is feminine.  ALL from the Bible. I think that ye doth protest too loudly. YOU: The Bible also says, “thou shalt not add or take away”. What, then, if YOU are the one taking “away” from what is written in the Bible??? Yes, the Bible is good enough for me!  How about for YOU? Yes, throughout Gen 1 Elohim created simply by SAYING.  He doesn't need anything I agree.  However, He gave us the Bible to give us information about Him and what He has done. And magically and for no reason at all, God gave us specific information directly from His mouth about Himself…..Elohim is male and female. How about using the Bible to refute what you detest?  With the Bible I can then see the “truth” and change what I write….with opinions they are only that, opinions unfounded. Georg,  I “try” to respond as honestly as possible and with Scripture and stay on topic.  Many times in your posts you like to jump around and not finish one topic.  Here is your chance to finish one theme.

dbf

tell me which of the words is feminine FATHER OR SON,??

one more thing ;why is it not say MOTHER AND son OR FATHER AND DAUGTHER??

ANOTHER QUESTION ;what was the original written language in which the words were written??

and since you know for certain that God is male and female so what is now the nature of God,and what is the usefulness of being male and female and being a spirit???

LET SEE IF YOU KNOW GOD AS YOU SAY;;;

note;you have open a can of worms.

Pierre

[RokkaMan]

YHVH isn't anything…

He Is

Do you realize everything consists within YHVH?

YHVH isn't good, good is a concept or entity that COMES FROM YHVH

Since he isn't good and that goodness comes from him…he is more than good.

So much so, in a realm we cannot possibly fathom.

but for the purposes of understanding his qualities…the closest concept to what YHVH really is, from a humanistic approach would be label Good.

So when Jesus says YHVH is Good…that's as close as any human being can come to understanding the capacity of who YHVH is.

but it is to be understood that he is more than good…so much so, we can never comprehend such a concept.

——–

The same goes for every supposed quality of YHVH.

He isn't Just… because justice comes from him, so he has to be something MORE than just…since justice CAME FROM him.

He isn't love… because love comes from him…he has to be and have something MORE than Love.

———-

All these concepts of his true nature are beyond human comprehension.

That is why YHVH is unknowable.

but when he makes himself known… he explains himself in terms we can understand.

For example: He's loving, he's just and he's good.

but his true nature transcends those qualities.

———-

In conclusion…

YHVH is neither male nor female… those are attributes given to creation.

He trascends those silly ideas… but for the sake of understanding what “gender” he may be….

well you can say he's both masculant and feminine seeing has how both masculinity and feminism both come from him.

but it's to be understand that He Simply Is

seeing as how all things come from him…

so really this is a trivial thread.

When the bible describes him in masculant and feminine ways, it's mankind's trivial attempt to identify the unidentifiable.

[terraricca]

Quote (RokkaMan @ Sep. 09 2010,21:30)

YHVH isn't anything… He Is Do you realize everything consists within YHVH? YHVH isn't good, good is a concept or entity that COMES FROM YHVH Since he isn't good and that goodness comes from him…he is more than good. So much so, in a realm we cannot possibly fathom. but for the purposes of understanding his qualities…the closest concept to what YHVH really is, from a humanistic approach would be label Good. So when Jesus says YHVH is Good…that's as close as any human being can come to understanding the capacity of who YHVH is. but it is to be understood that he is more than good…so much so, we can never comprehend such a concept. ——– The same goes for every supposed quality of YHVH. He isn't Just… because justice comes from him, so he has to be something MORE than just…since justice CAME FROM him. He isn't love… because love comes from him…he has to be and have something MORE than Love. ———- All these concepts of his true nature are beyond human comprehension. That is why YHVH is unknowable. but when he makes himself known… he explains himself in terms we can understand. For example: He's loving, he's just and he's good. but his true nature transcends those qualities. ———- In conclusion… YHVH is neither male nor female… those are attributes given to creation. He trascends those silly ideas… but for the sake of understanding what “gender” he may be…. well you can say he's both masculant and feminine seeing has how both masculinity and feminism both come from him. but it's to be understand that He Simply Is seeing as how all things come from him… so really this is a trivial thread. When the bible describes him in masculant and feminine ways, it's mankind's trivial attempt to identify the unidentifiable.

Mt 11:25 At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.
Mt 11:26 Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure

Pierre

[RokkaMan]

Wow terrica, you're being a jerk for posting the same 2 bible verses on every single post.

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