Elohim; has two essences – male and female

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  • #212670
    JustAskin
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    DBF,

    Do you know me? Do you think I need “AVOID” you – You having a laugh, my man.

    No, I'm having a laugh – you so funny – you out of short pants yet?

    Get your head straight before you butt in with the big boys… What you are posting is such sheer nonesense it would be equal nonsense to answer you back to what you write. hence….
    “A wise man should not argue with a [fo – silly one – ol] in public. A bystander would not be able to tell which is which”

    #212674
    Ed J
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    Quote (JustAskin @ Aug. 18 2010,11:52)
    DBF,

    Do you know me? Do you think I need “AVOID” you – You having a laugh, my man.

    No, I'm having a laugh – you so funny – you out of short pants yet?

    Get your head straight before you butt in with the big boys… What you are posting is such sheer nonesense it would be equal nonsense to answer you back to what you write. hence….
      “A wise man should not argue with a [fo – silly one – ol] in public. A bystander would not be able to tell which is which”


    Hi JustAskin,

    Matt.5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause
    shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be
    in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #212682
    JustAskin
    Participant

    Edj,

    context, context, context…

    #212683
    JustAskin
    Participant

    How was the word used at the time it was spoken of as you quote it. It is used differently from then. it is a more lighter form of 'put down' than at that time.

    #212685
    JustAskin
    Participant

    Much like calling someone a 'Dog' – That was one of the worse things to call a Jew at that time – now…now it's even a euphormism for “outrageously”.

    “The Spirit – Not the Letter”.

    #212689
    davidbfun
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    Quote (JustAskin @ Aug. 18 2010,19:52)
    DBF,

    Do you know me? Do you think I need “AVOID” you – You having a laugh, my man.

    No, I'm having a laugh – you so funny – you out of short pants yet?

    Get your head straight before you butt in with the big boys… What you are posting is such sheer nonesense it would be equal nonsense to answer you back to what you write. hence….
      “A wise man should not argue with a [fo – silly one – ol] in public. A bystander would not be able to tell which is which”


    JA,

    I hope that they aren't paying you to be beligerent. And it seems that this is the only thing that comes out of your mouth.

    When are you going to respond to Scripture with Scripture?

    Or maybe the cat got your tongue and you can't? Gen 1:27.

    At least with Nick he'll throw in the Bible sometimes.

    The Professor

    #212692
    JustAskin
    Participant

    DBF, you will find that when you speak TRUTH you will get praise from JA.

    When you post nonesense – you get lambasted.

    hope this help set you mind towards posting Truthfulness.

    #212693
    JustAskin
    Participant

    DBF,

    JustAskin is no friend to anyone except he who speaks the truth – or SEEKs the truth.

    Right now, you are not speaking the truth nor seeking the truth.

    #212696
    JustAskin
    Participant

    And, DavidBFun, if i see ONE More post from you concerning “God is a female” you will make me your adversary and then you will see that JustAskin has no need to “AVOID” you?

    And why do you want that, DBF. Happily for you, God says, “If you grieve the Holy Spirit you will not be forgiven” – not If you grieve me” nor “If you grieve Jesus”, for thus you are doing and i urge you to stop before you entertain others in your “Holy Spirit is female” and “Holy Spirit is Mother of Jesus”.

    I do this to HELP you – not to whatever you. Ask in this forum – ask the greatest in this forum – ask about JA. See who JA has run away from that I should fear you? and see what i post that you think I can't post Scripture – I hold back because with Scriptural food from you because you still drinking milk and not yet ready to take solids.

    #212697
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Quote (JustAskin @ Aug. 18 2010,20:43)
    DBF,

    JustAskin is no friend to anyone except he who speaks the truth – or SEEKs the truth.

    Right now, you are not speaking the truth nor seeking the truth.


    JA

    If I don't speak the truth why don't you show where I am not?

    Which Scripture have I been wrong on?

    Why do personal attacks?

    The Professor

    #212698
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (JustAskin @ Aug. 18 2010,12:41)
    DBF, you will find that when you speak TRUTH you will get praise from JA.

    When you post nonesense – you get lambasted.

    hope this help set you mind towards posting Truthfulness.


    Hi JustAskin,

    John 12:4 For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #212700
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (JustAskin @ Aug. 18 2010,12:43)
    DBF,

    JustAskin is no friend to anyone except he who speaks the truth – or SEEKs the truth.

    Right now, you are not speaking the truth nor seeking the truth.


    Hi JuatSakin,

    Acts 5:29 …We(David and myself) ought to obey God rather than men(like JustAskin).

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #212705
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 18 2010,20:57)

    Quote (JustAskin @ Aug. 18 2010,12:41)
    DBF, you will find that when you speak TRUTH you will get praise from JA.

    When you post nonesense – you get lambasted.

    hope this help set you mind towards posting Truthfulness.


    Hi JustAskin,

    John 12:4 For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed or JA,

    What does this have to do with Elohim?

    Thank God I am not looking for praise from MEN or JA.

    JA has YET posted any Scripture in rebuttal to his comments. He opinionates much but proves little.

    But he is correct….he is trying to lambast???? me as he has yet attacked any Scripture.

    Aren't there a set of guidelines or rules for his behavior? And who enforces them?

    The Professor

    #212711
    JustAskin
    Participant

    Professor,

    if there were guidelines of a sort you would have been thrown out before you got to ask if there were guidelines.

    You seem very naive… are you sure you are allowed to on this forum? Did you get permission from an adult?

    And Edj, what are you on about – I can't figure what you trying to say.

    #212733
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (JustAskin @ Aug. 18 2010,12:43)
    DBF,

    JustAskin is no friend to anyone except he who speaks the truth – or SEEKs the truth.

    Right now, you are not speaking the truth nor seeking the truth.

    ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Edit)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
    Hi JustAskin,

    Acts 5:29 …We(David and myself) ought to obey God rather than men(like JustAskin).

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org[/quote]

    #212736
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi JustAskin,

    Maybe if I could spell a little better you'd have a chance.  ???

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #212764
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Quote (Arnold @ July 06 2010,14:23)

    Quote (davidbfun @ July 06 2010,03:07)
    Eloh = goddess (noun, fem)(root)
    im = suffix (masc, plural)

    From this Hebrew word we can see that God (Elohim)   consists of two essences, male and female.  If God were only male the Hebrew word is El = God (noun, masc).  

    Gen 1:27 God (Elohim) created man in God's image; male and female….if God were not male AND female God could have created humans only male.

    Holy Spirit = Ruach HaKodesh (noun, fem)
    YHWH = LORD (noun, masc)(Title not a Name)
    Elohim = two together (One = yachid; 'Echad; united)

    Jesus is the “son of God” and Jesus talked about his Father but it appears that no one thinks about his Mother who begat him (Holy Spirit).

    We, humans, are only copies of the things of Heaven and were created in God's likeness and image and the Bible says that we are created in God's image male and female; therefore God must have these two essences also.  

    God walked among men in the Old Testament but also sends His Spirit  onto men showing that God has a body and spirit; just as we do.  Our bodies will die but our spirits will live on eternally.

    God's likeness = body, spirit
    God's image = male, female

    David : )

    :)  :)


    You need to understand what is meant by “image”.
    Speaking of Jesus.

    Col 1:15   Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:  

    What was the “image” Jesus was created in? “spirit”, invisible.
    Man was not created in that same image, man is not spirit.
    Besides “being” spirit, invisible; God has a spirit/mind, and so do we; that is the image God created us in, it enables us to communicate with God.


    Hello Irene,

    This is a funny topic because we get so many ideas.

    Spirits don't have gender.

    God is spirit and doesn't have a body. (Col 1:15 – God is invisible)

    Could we look at what GOD SAID about Himself?

    Gen 1:27 God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

    Regardless of what “image” IS, we know that God's IS, male and female. Why tell us this about Himself?

    The Professor

    #213348
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Quote (JustAskin @ Aug. 18 2010,21:20)
    Professor,

    if there were guidelines of a sort you would have been thrown out before you got to ask if there were guidelines.

    You seem very naive… are you sure you are allowed to on this forum? Did you get permission from an adult?

    And Edj, what are you on about – I can't figure what you trying to say.


    You're right JA,

    I must be pretty naive.

    I thought that this site was to present ideas, hopefully based on the Bible and then people could respond with Bible verses to agree or disagree.

    For example:

    Take Gen 1:2 ….”Spirit” of God moved upon the face of the waters.

    Everyone knows how to look up words so, what is spirit listed as? Since no one who after looking it up wants to admit but, here it is:

    רוח ruwach = Spirit; Part of Speech; feminine noun; Strong's H7307

    So, why can't people take what is written and follow thru with an idea, or in this case, follow the thread?

    The Professor

    #213351
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Quote (david @ Aug. 01 2010,00:44)

    Quote (david @ July 30 2010,15:56)

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    Gen 1:2 says ורוח אלהים  Spirit Elohim; but is translated God's Spirit

    Gen 2:4 says יהוה אלהים YHVH Elohim; and is translated LORD God.  Why not translate in like manner and say God's YHVH?

    Hi David,
    Maybe you have things backwards.  Why not ask the opposite question:  “Why not translate in like manner and say “the spirit, God” ?

    If you don't like that “of” being in there, as in the spirit of God, why not translate it as it is: “and the spirit, God, was moving…”

    “God is a spirit” after all, as the Bible says.


    Davidbfun.  How would you respond?


    Hello David,

    I'm trying to go back and re-read some responses of which I am not sure that I responded to.

    Let's translate in like manner as you suggest:

    Spirit, God (Elohim)
    YHWH, God (Elohim)

    That would make Spirit And YHWH = Elohim.

    I believe that Elohim is Spirit. And no one has seen Elohim at any time.

    As I see the workings of these two essences:

    Together they function as Elohim and are spirit.

    When YHWH steps out on His own in physical form, He functions as:

    God = El
    Father
    King
    Priest

    Spirit is obviously spirit within Elohim or on Her own.

    The Professor

    #213353
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Quote (david @ July 30 2010,23:29)

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    YHVH and Spirit cannot be the Personal Name of God (Elohim)

    ““I am Jehovah. That is my name;”–Is 42:8


    David,

    That is what I put in the quote:

    YHWH is not the name of Elohim.
    YHWH is the personal name of YHWH. YHWH is God (El).
    Spirit is not the name of Elohim.
    Spirit is the personal name of Spirit.
    Elohim is the name of Elohim.
    YHWH is Elohim.
    Spirit is Elohim.

    Together YHWH and Spirit comprise the ONE entity God (Elohim).

    Elohim encompasses El.

    The Professor

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